TF-X / KAAN / Hürjet Turkish Fighter & Trainer Aircrafts News & Discussions

[Pioneer]

I see you got a Chinese flag, so you're naturally going to defend your country China.
But here're some facts:

China’s WS‑15 timeline is roughly 15–18 years depending on where you start the clock. Early development began in the mid‑2000s, the first credible flight tests were in 2017, and operational integration happened in 2023. China did receive some material and metallurgy support from Russia, but the engine still took well over a decade to mature.

What makes Turkiye’s situation different is that it receives no engine technology transfers at all. No materials support, no turbine blade know‑how, no hot‑section metallurgy, no compressor IP, and no access to Western or Russian high‑temperature alloys(NYET). Despite that, Turkiye launched the TF35000 program from zero and has already completed core design, compressor testing, turbine testing, and material qualification. First ignition is approaching without any foreign assistance.

So while China needed 15–18 years with external help(Russia, remember), Turkiye is pushing a 5th‑gen engine program under full embargo conditions and still hitting milestones at a competitive pace. The hurdles are far higher, yet the progress is real.

Turkiye is doing something that's never been attempted before and winning.

bro, if you want news instead of thinking, give it up.

Ankara taps Pakistan’s China ties in search of war tech: report

Ankara taps Pakistan's China ties in search of war tech: report - Turkish Minute

Turkey's push to manufacture warplanes and missiles with Pakistan can be a hookup that could also give it access to war technology from China, Bloomberg reported on Tuesday.

turkishminute.com

 

[Ali_Baba]

bro, if you want news instead of thinking, give it up.

Ankara taps Pakistan’s China ties in search of war tech: report

Ankara taps Pakistan's China ties in search of war tech: report - Turkish Minute

Turkey's push to manufacture warplanes and missiles with Pakistan can be a hookup that could also give it access to war technology from China, Bloomberg reported on Tuesday.

turkishminute.com

Is China going to share military technology with a NATO country? I know Turkieye toyed with the Chinese FD-2000 (HQ-9) some time back, but a product is different from core technology?

 

[Pioneer]

Is China going to share military technology with a NATO country? I know Turkieye toyed with the Chinese FD-2000 (HQ-9) some time back, but a product is different from core technology?

The probability is highly "NO". But Pakistan is the variable.

 

[hyperman]

What word on if(in light of the Iran war etc)/when the Qatari Typhoons will turn up to Turkieye ? Has Qatar changed its priorities, or is the transfer still on schedule ?

No idea what happened there, it was supposed to arrive, then this Iran war started and we haven't heard anything since.

 

[Anatolia]

bro, if you want news instead of thinking, give it up.

Ankara taps Pakistan’s China ties in search of war tech: report

Ankara taps Pakistan's China ties in search of war tech: report - Turkish Minute

Turkey's push to manufacture warplanes and missiles with Pakistan can be a hookup that could also give it access to war technology from China, Bloomberg reported on Tuesday.

turkishminute.com

Is China going to share military technology with a NATO country? I know Turkieye toyed with the Chinese FD-2000 (HQ-9) some time back, but a product is different from core technology?

The probability is highly "NO". But Pakistan is the variable.

Every time Turkiye has an internal debate about engines or any other defence technology, the same cycle appears: a few loud voices say “let’s go with China,” "Should just leave NATO"and then… nothing. It never materialises. Not once.

There’s a simple reason for that: Turkish decision makers consistently choose Europe/West when it comes to core military technology. Not because of ideology, but because of integration, standards, logistics, and long term strategic alignment.

When Erdogan said Turkiye might “join ASEAN” or “join the SCO,” it was political signalling. We didn’t join either.Right?

We have a genuinely strong relationship with Pakistan, but alignment does not equal an alliance shift.

Turkiye is deeply embedded in NATO systems, doctrine, and interoperability. That’s not something you can casually swap out.

And the idea that Turkiye could buy Chinese jets or major Chinese weapons. even indirectly via Pakistan, is simply not realistic. Turkiye’s entire defence ecosystem is integrated with Western avionics, datalinks, IFF, munitions standards, logistics chains, and NATO command‑and‑control. You can’t plug a PLAAF jet into that environment. You can’t even plug a Chinese SAM into it without major isolation.

So yes, every time there’s a disagreement or frustration, people say “let’s go with China.” especially on forums like this one. But the outcome is always the same. Turkiye stays aligned with NATO, buys Western systems, and develops its own indigenous tech.