Parsis and Hindutva's Ethnic Nationalism in India

[Kingfisher]

We Parsis, happily, really are mad. Not sanki. Frank mad.

Late 80s (or early 90s maybe) ki kahani. Post Bluestar etc. Sab finally thanda.

This team of elite bawa cyclists, from Poona and Bombay, guys and girls, national heros, Asiad legends, you'll probably know the names, they go to Patiala for a national camp before the Asian games.

Accha, camp over, everyone has to return home. These johnnies decide to first go and page paro at Golden Temple, before their trains home (no fancy flying in those days, no sir, poor India).

At Golden Temple, they see Sardarjis being given swords. Pretty ornate ones. Bawas get horny. Humko bhi chahiye please!

Sardarjis give them the swords. Everyone maha chuffed and excited.

But bc how to carry full fugin swords in the train?!!! Lol Major brainstorming. Over lots of rum, through the night.

Finally sense prevails, and bawas and bawis forget their Persian genes and leave the swords in safekeeping with local friends. Great sadness and regret. To this day.

Cheers, Doc

Oho, Amritsan ke golden temple ki srounding dukano se toh maine bhi li a tha maal.. a sword, a few kripans, ornamental or outrright deadly..

skorti uncle had it shipped home but, no chance you get on a train, much less a plane with those, even if in the luggage bay. :lol:

 

[Guru Dutt]

I dont know enough or close enough to say otherwise, except that Muslims are therefore widely seen as an alien people in India based on what you say!

I guess time will tell on whether Hindutva india only has an issue with its Muslim minority!

Muslim are not MINORITY in India they are the second Biggest Majority with almost 30 crore in population and the hindutva means if you hurt and mock our cultar and lifestyle and gods we have all rights to retaliate and if muslim wakf board or chritsian church of india is not governed by indian goverment why should hindu tempels and shrines be governed by indian goverment .... in short we need justice for all but appeasment to none and this so called sekularism means appeasment to christians and muslims at cost of hindus and when we starting pride in sanatan dharm and retaliting against these discrimintion the congress and its toddy ecosystem named it as intolerence and hindutva .. as simple as that

 

[r3alist]

Muslim are not MINORITY in India they are the second Biggest Majority with almost 30 crore in population and the hindutva means if you hurt and mock our cultar and lifestyle and gods we have all rights to retaliate and if muslim wakf board or chritsian church of india is not governed by indian goverment why should hindu tempels and shrines be governed by indian goverment .... in short we need justice for all but appeasment to none and this so called sekularism means appeasment to christians and muslims at cost of hindus and when we starting pride in sanatan dharm and retaliting against these discrimintion the congress and its toddy ecosystem named it as intolerence and hindutva .. as simple as that

Yes I think we know the proclivity of angry hindu'r to attack any minority in a vulnerable position.


Of course Muslims are a minority in India.

 

[Guru Dutt]

Yes I think we know the proclivity of angry hindu'r to attack any minority in a vulnerable position.


Of course Muslims are a minority in India.

do you know the ammount of hindus lynched by muslims in india and the number of hindu muslim riots that hapenned before 2002 gujrat riots .... do some research and then talk


just look what plight of christian and hindu minorities in pakistan and how there minor girls are abducted and sold/converted to middle aged men by people like mia mithhu and your own sindh assembally was petrified to make it illeagel by law such is the public sentiment against minorities and e all know what hapenned in punjabs jharanwallan to those christian families on mere rumor of bhlasphemy and what pakistanies are doing to Ahmedies and even shias and you have audicity to teach us about minority rights

 

[r3alist]

do you know the ammount of hindus lynched by muslims in india and the number of hindu muslim riots that hapenned before 2002 gujrat riots .... do some research and then talk


just look what plight of christian and hindu minorities in pakistan and how there minor girls are abducted and sold/converted to middle aged men by people like mia mithhu and your own sindh assembally was petrified to make it illeagel by law such is the public sentiment against minorities and e all know what hapenned in punjabs jharanwallan to those christian families on mere rumor of bhlasphemy and what pakistanies are doing to Ahmedies and even shias and you have audicity to teach us about minority rights

In fairness I dont want to derail this interesting thread to discuSs too much with someOne who has a thousand year chip on their shoulder and just cant control their inner-seethe!

I should have stopped reading once you said "second biggest majority", an oxymoron from an actual moron!

 

[Guru Dutt]

In fairness I dont want to derail this interesting thread to discuSs too much with someOne who has a thousand year chip on their shoulder and just cant control their inner-seethe!

I should have stopped reading once you said "second biggest majority", an oxymoron from an actual moron!

good for you

 

[vsdoc]

@Waz @Hyde

Request you to please clean up the thread and prevent it from being derailed further.

We were sincere for a bit.

Till we realized that the opposite side is trying to be smart.

This thread is about PARSIS and HINDUTVA.

NOT Muslims or any other denomination.

Thank you for your attention.

Cheers, Doc

Request the Indians to stop posting till the thread is cleaned up.

Thanks.

 

[Waz]

Stay on topic, posts have been deleted.

 

[Proud Thamizhan]

the most successful business houses : parsis
the founders of highest forms and institutions of science : parsis
the best financial services, shipping firms, builders of Mumbai : parsis

at a personal level:

some of my most generous firends in need : parsis
some of the funniest to have a chai and that biscuit like thing I forget the name with in a irani shop : parsis
the college fellow that took me to his house and let me have sips of his dad's single malt collection : parsi

VERDICT: Parsis are a-ok

PS: there is some hitherto un/mis-understood connection between hinduism and Zoroaster. somewhere somehow someone tore of a few pages in the middles of that book.

 

[Proud Thamizhan]

the most successful business houses : parsis
the founders of highest forms and institutions of science : parsis
the best financial services, shipping firms, builders of Mumbai : parsis

at a personal level:

some of my most generous firends in need : parsis
some of the funniest to have a chai and that biscuit like thing I forget the name with in a irani shop : parsis
the college fellow that took me to his house and let me have sips of his dad's single malt collection : parsi

VERDICT: Parsis are a-ok

PS: there is some hitherto un/mis-understood connection between hinduism and Zoroaster. somewhere somehow someone tore of a few pages in the middles of that book.

allow me a slight deviation from the thrust of this thread to make another point.
.Most Hindus have a very high regard for not just parsis but also for Sikhs - though for different reasons,

while parsis built Indian economy and sciences and institutions, the Sikhs built the integrity and character of our defense.

 

[r3alist]

¥ actually fully agree with pro-active moderation for minorities or a perceived minority mindset.

It will allow them to feel safer.


Therefore I was wondering how Hindutva will work with Parsis in the long run.


We have seen Hindutva types seeking to procreate with Israeli Women of late, very openly and frankly, there is very likely going to be a sub current eyeing up other minorities what they believe are allies.

 

[r3alist]

while parsis built Indian economy and sciences and institutions, the Sikhs built the integrity and character of our defense.

This came with the Sikh's, nothing before?

 

[Proud Thamizhan]

This came with the Sikh's, nothing before?

not nothing but greatly dilapidated by invaders

 

[vsdoc]

not nothing but greatly dilapidated by invaders

I hate doing this to my own thread.

MARATHA!!!!

Cheers, Doc

 

[Proud Thamizhan]

I can help bring it back thusly.

even though sikhs and marathas brought a stunning martial character in the post independence stage it took another great parsi to define victory for the country.

Field Marshal SAM.

him and people like General Kariappa (kodagu mountain tribals !.. minority again )