Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Areesh]

Decoys flown by real pilots. Spin it to win it.

They wanted to make it extra believable to fool Pakistanis

Indians are super genius with extremely high IQ of 80

 

[flyingorca]

What to believe
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The mouse chewed on FBW cable which resulted in technical glitch and crashed. Dont mind the wreckage spread across Bathinda field.

 

[Be dazzled]

Brother is this verified? 2 s400 is crazy...... Cm400 and jf17 proved deadly!

So it's China and Pak vs India France Israel and russia? What an absurd logic.

 

[Bratva]

India finally admits they lost 2 S-400 systems.

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India finally admits they lost 2 S-400 systems.

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Brother is this verified? 2 s400 is crazy...... Cm400 and jf17 proved deadly!

Audio is manipulated with AI. He never said 2 S-400 destroyed. There are obvious signs of audio manipulation. You can watch the original interview on youtube.

 

[TopGun786]

The whole arsenal was tested on that poor brig HQ. War time testing of a new weapon system.

Exactly my thoughts....

 

[TopGun786]

@Cryptonian



Are you referring to Su30 wreckage that was corden off by Indian military? Do you not see two wheels circled in red on the right? The left circle has a silhouette of what could be a fuselage. PAY ATTENTION to the right circle. Yes the two wheels did not just fall of the sky.

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Multiple eyewitness reported they saw two pilots came down the parachute and a fighter jet fall from the sky.
And no you goofy, the pilot who ejected is not inspecting his own aircraft wreckage but a different pilot from same unit.

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As per Jeets these are just decoy jets.

 

[Hayabusa]

What to believe
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Ignorance is Bliss.

The more Indians believes in such news, the better for Pakistan. I am glad such news are more popular than Pravin Sahwney, whom could actually be a threat with his knowledge!

 

[Hayabusa]

India finally admits they lost 2 S-400 systems.

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This is actually huge and basically an admission of their loss.

But wait till Indians and Indian media spins it around.

"Master stroke by an officer to lie through their teeth, so that Pakistan will underestimate India's air defence capabilities forcing them to miscalculate in the next conflict"

 

[Mav3rick]

The next India Pak war wont just be India pak in my opinion but India vs Pak and china War

The chinese would love this time to capture the zangnan province or arunachal pradesh

Why would the Chinese bother to go to war for Pakistan, especially against a country with which it has over 130 Billion worth of trade? Sometimes, I come across comments which are so childish that it's painful.

It is just like Pravin Sawhany repeatedly saying that this war was Pakistan + China against India just because we used Chinese oriented weaponry. But by the same logic, it should be Pakistan + China against India + France + Russia + Israel etc. as India was using weapons provided by Russia, France, and Israel etc.

 

[A1Kaid]

This is actually huge and basically an admission of their loss.

But wait till Indians and Indian media spins it around.

"Master stroke by an officer to lie through their teeth, so that Pakistan will underestimate India's air defence capabilities forcing them to miscalculate in the next conflict"

Yeah it was a ‘master stroke’

Masterstroke by Modi govt as India, Greece, Cyprus, Armenia may form a..., bad news for Pakistan, Turkey, Azerbaijan due to...

India is now set to elevate its diplomatic role in West Asia. As part of a key strategy to counter Turkey, a close ally of Pakistan, India is building a new alliance with Armenia, Greece, and Cyprus as its key partners.

www.india.com

 

[Cipher212]

I see most of you want to just talk about day one when India lost aircraft. Day one was indeed a surprise well delivered.

But, most people go into complete denial for rest of the days.
Few pock marks on the runways, oh just few unoccupied buildings, just few unoccupied trailers etc etc. India delivered a credible surprise by striking at will across entire Pakistan.

This selective blindness and claims of no credible damage display exactly the same Bhaktora mentality who deny losses of any aircraft.

Most members can’t understand the strategic signal given by striking a target within 10 Kms of your national capital and the GHQ. The accuracy and reach of striking at will was an excellent display of capability and failure for Pakistan to replicate the same.

There was no failure to replicate. That would be the case if we had sent a package of 50+ aircraft and not achieved anything. Which is what India did on the first night and lost many aircraft for. How I say nothing achieved? We all know bombing some madrassah in Muridke is a pure PR strike not for any actual objective.

Instead our response was mainly through SH-15s, CM-400 and Fatah 1, and various drones.


IMO, Op Sindoor was supposed to be a one nighter, but after seeing so many aircraft loss the Indian military was salty and wanted something in return, hence the further escalation.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Pakistan and Turkey New Mission | Muzamal Suharwardy Ft. Air Commodore (R) Khalid Chishti​

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[Lion]

Audio is manipulated with AI. He never said 2 S-400 destroyed. There are obvious signs of audio manipulation. You can watch the original interview on youtube.

I like how everyone’s just ignoring this bit - second time the whole forum is falling for AI generated crap. The video is manipulated, he did not admit anything.

So far we have no real proof or indication of an S400 system being damaged or destroyed, not even an official claim by the PAF that they hit one (only that they “found” and “targeted” it) so I’m not sure why everyone’s so eager to just make up that the PAF destroyed not one but two systems. The PAF very clearly and often used the word “destroyed” for any target they were sure they had hit, for the S400, they glossed over the slides, showed no real proof and just mentioned with minced words that the system had been targeted, even went so far as to say “attacking them is the easy part, finding them is the hard part” - this is exactly the kind of line if said by an Indian general would be considered “cope”. The excuse of “they’re hiding it for XYZ reason” is also just a cope, if they had proof of hitting one they’d plaster it absolutely everywhere and make sure everyone knew, again, this is the kind of thing Indians get flamed for on the daily (rightfully so) with their bogus and fanciful claims.

Even if the PAF claims it, don’t take everything at face value, not to say the PAF is lying, but there’s obviously enough ambiguity for them to claim the kill and go with the story as it helps massively with narrative building, but we have to focus on reality because that’s what will matter in the next conflict, and the reality suggests that there is very little proof of an S400 being hit or destroyed at the moment, it’s not impossible, just unlikely.

If the Indians claimed anything of that sort with this level of proof all of you would laugh them off the forum, don’t fall to that level.

This is not meant to take away from what the PAF accomplished at all, they dominated the IAF in every way possible and they did enough which is fully proven for us to discuss and be proud of, do not fall into the trap of confirmation biases and this place being half an echo chamber - hold your own side accountable too so you’re ready for the next conflict where rest assured India will have more S400s than this time regardless of wether any were hit or not.

 

[BonPlan]

Dassault CEO Confirms No Combat Losses of Indian Rafale Jets. Technical Incident Under Probe

Eric Trappier has confirmed that no Indian Air Force Rafale jets have been lost in combat to enemy fire.

rappier acknowledged a separate incident involving a Rafale that suffered a technical failure at over 12,000 meters. The event, which did not involve enemy contact or hostile radar, resulted in what has been described as "fracticide", and an investigation into the technical cause is currently underway.

Sindoor: Eric Trappier réfute les pertes de Rafale lors d’un combat

Le PDG de Dassault Aviation nie la perte de Rafale au combat, conteste les allégations pakistanaises et défend la polyvalence de l’avion de chasse.

www.avion-chasse.fr

@Musings @Yasser76

 

[Yasser76]

Any other sources confirming this? Big if true!

India admits Rafale pilot deaths under pressure as honours expose cover-up

Honourees include Rafale pilots, S-400 operators, and key base staff.Families allegedly pressured not to share photos or tributes online.Move sparks criticism after official denial over military losses.After repeatedly denying any...

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