Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[NA71]

This is indeed terrifying

It's really not a joke because India has declared unilateral action at any point in time

Even though it cries anti terror it has specifically targeted nuclear facilities, as a baseline for the next attack


Internally confused between feeling like it has to live up to something great, also feeling like it's the victim and also feeling like it does not have the capability it needs


What's the good reason for this? What's the good reason to try and call Pakistan's nuclear bluff and make that your aim......

Imagine a historian looking back at this

You are right sir, but unfortunately our policy of restraint is being perceived as Nuclear bluff...

If we had a chance to shoot down more than 6 jets .....we should have done it....

For a wild animal you need to take a wild shot...or you will be killed

 

[PakistanLVR]

You are right sir, but unfortunately our policy of restraint is being perceived as Nuclear bluff...

If we had a chance to shoot down more than jets .....we should have done it....

For a wild animal you need to take a wild shot...or you will be killed

THIS:!!!

The slumdog learned one lesson. He is licking his wounds but has come to the conclusion we were bluffing about our Nukes all along.

Lack of a massive conventional strike - visible and destructive has elevated a large conventional war without the use of Nukes which puts Pakistan at odds due to the Slumdog economy, bigger military, and willingness to sacrifice his subhuman population. I look at May conflict as a failure because we did not break their morale.

 

[Olympus81]

Do the Indian generals think how big of a loser they sound when they say Pakistan is being backed by China / Turkey.

I mean look at yourself. Most of Indian armaments originate from Russia, France, Israel.

Please maintain composure and professionalism.

 

[PakistanLVR]

Do the Indian generals think how big of a loser they sound when they say Pakistan is being backed by China / Turkey.

I mean look at yourself. Most of Indian armaments originate from Russia, France, Israel.

Please maintain composure and professionalism.

I think they are implying we ain't sh*t but just converted rent seekers. Its very specific messaging and narrative building. We are worthless and couldn't have pulled it over without massive "help."

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Do the Indian generals think how big of a loser they sound when they say Pakistan is being backed by China / Turkey.

I mean look at yourself. Most of Indian armaments originate from Russia, France, Israel.

Please maintain composure and professionalism.

dont be so naive, they are conniving AH!

every word they speak, should be heard, analyzed and understood well!

 

[Olympus81]

I think they are implying we ain't sh*t but just converted rent seekers. Its very specific messaging and narrative building. We are worthless and couldn't have pulled it over without massive "help."

In the process making a fool out of themselves I suppose.

 

[Distant_Observer]

I think they are implying we ain't sh*t but just converted rent seekers. Its very specific messaging and narrative building. We are worthless and couldn't have pulled it over without massive "help."

It's aimed as a slur.

Next time Pakistan needs to hit them so hard that they can't cover it up.

 

[NA71]

It's aimed as a slur.

Next time Pakistan needs to hit them so hard that they can't cover it up.

That would be full scale war ....India is ready for that.....are we? we are chained with our economic conditions.

 

[PakistaniDefender]

I like how everyone’s just ignoring this bit - second time the whole forum is falling for AI generated crap. The video is manipulated, he did not admit anything.

So far we have no real proof or indication of an S400 system being damaged or destroyed, not even an official claim by the PAF that they hit one (only that they “found” and “targeted” it) so I’m not sure why everyone’s so eager to just make up that the PAF destroyed not one but two systems. The PAF very clearly and often used the word “destroyed” for any target they were sure they had hit, for the S400, they glossed over the slides, showed no real proof and just mentioned with minced words that the system had been targeted, even went so far as to say “attacking them is the easy part, finding them is the hard part” - this is exactly the kind of line if said by an Indian general would be considered “cope”. The excuse of “they’re hiding it for XYZ reason” is also just a cope, if they had proof of hitting one they’d plaster it absolutely everywhere and make sure everyone knew, again, this is the kind of thing Indians get flamed for on the daily (rightfully so) with their bogus and fanciful claims.

Even if the PAF claims it, don’t take everything at face value, not to say the PAF is lying, but there’s obviously enough ambiguity for them to claim the kill and go with the story as it helps massively with narrative building, but we have to focus on reality because that’s what will matter in the next conflict, and the reality suggests that there is very little proof of an S400 being hit or destroyed at the moment, it’s not impossible, just unlikely.

If the Indians claimed anything of that sort with this level of proof all of you would laugh them off the forum, don’t fall to that level.

This is not meant to take away from what the PAF accomplished at all, they dominated the IAF in every way possible and they did enough which is fully proven for us to discuss and be proud of, do not fall into the trap of confirmation biases and this place being half an echo chamber - hold your own side accountable too so you’re ready for the next conflict where rest assured India will have more S400s than this time regardless of wether any were hit or not.

So how to take out S400? We don't have ARMs

 

[Distant_Observer]

That would be full scale war ....India is ready for that.....are we? we are chained with our economic conditions.

Pakistan will go nuclear within a week.

Indians thought they could impress the whites but they found out they are the inferior aborigine and Pakistanis are the conquistadors of the subcontinent.

 

[NA71]

Lo bhai DF 17 aa gaey......

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[Fatman17]

Do the Indian generals think how big of a loser they sound when they say Pakistan is being backed by China / Turkey.

I mean look at yourself. Most of Indian armaments originate from Russia, France, Israel.

Please maintain composure and professionalism.

Usa

 

[Master Chief]

THIS:!!!

The slumdog learned one lesson. He is licking his wounds but has come to the conclusion we were bluffing about our Nukes all along.

Lack of a massive conventional strike - visible and destructive has elevated a large conventional war without the use of Nukes which puts Pakistan at odds due to the Slumdog economy, bigger military, and willingness to sacrifice his subhuman population. I look at May conflict as a failure because we did not break their morale.

The ignorant and dalitised hordes are no different to zombies, essentially. They keep baying for the blood of Pakistani civilians and children, thinking it is somehow their right to do so, and only a massive military action from Pakistan will silence them for a thousand years.

No qom exists in the modern world like India, (arguably, Israel). Pakistanis simply do not behave in this way as a nation or as a people. I cannot envisage a scenario, even if we were the numerically and economically superior nation, where we would deliberately divert natural resources needed by their civilians for life itself, nor can I imagine that civil society would endorse a leader who claims he has some right to exercise the option to intentionally kill children of any enemy.

Important to note also that there is little to no difference between BJP and Congress with regards to Pakistan and Kashmir.

They have deluded themselves since 1947 and will continue to do so as long as BJP exists and Congress provides a mask for it.

 

[Corax]

off topic: (maybe)
The border with India is closed. Do we really need to continue with this circus of flag hoisting and "parades " at Wagah and elsewhere ? It makes both India and Pakistan the laughing stock in the rest of the world, though India doesn't care of course , Funny thing is neither India nor Pakistan has a similar comical dance on their respective borders with China, ( or with other neighboring countries for that matter ),

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other borders between hostile countries are like "Checkpoint " Charlie below :
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I repeatedly said this. We should get rid of the clown show at our end. No lowering/raising of the flag - it's always raised. Heavily reinforce it with border security force, and that's it. They can prance around like clowns on their side if they want.

 

[r3alist]

You are right sir, but unfortunately our policy of restraint is being perceived as Nuclear bluff...

If we had a chance to shoot down more than 6 jets .....we should have done it....

For a wild animal you need to take a wild shot...or you will be killed

THIS:!!!

The slumdog learned one lesson. He is licking his wounds but has come to the conclusion we were bluffing about our Nukes all along.

Lack of a massive conventional strike - visible and destructive has elevated a large conventional war without the use of Nukes which puts Pakistan at odds due to the Slumdog economy, bigger military, and willingness to sacrifice his subhuman population. I look at May conflict as a failure because we did not break their morale.

The world narrative, yes the world narrative, has developed that everyone is on the defense against Islamic terrorism, including Muslim countries themselves who cite the same problem

If you think about it, this immediately puts pressure and a credibility deficit on Muslim countries to act because after all they are understood to be the ideological problem

To that end, India is trying to maximize that narrative hence they bring up Daniel pearl and obl, it actually might be too late for them, but that's how they justified their attack as defense.... Oh as well as the twinning of their suffering to Israel's


Bringing this back to Pakistan, it would be very difficult for Pakistan to justify excessive force on their side because there is no ideological room for it, the world has been conditioned to Isis, aq etc

I mean what's the general narrative, is Pakistan actually seen as the one being aggressed upon? So that's the ideological buffer India has, at best the world will be seeing Pakistan the way India wants them to, at worst India will be seen as a bit incompetent and blundering...... but not the aggressor


Is the west not coaxing and leading India to be even more assertive?

Pakistan and India should find an equilibrium, along with China.