Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Hack-Hook]

I think they were looking at the J-10CE as said in the article, they were in the final testing stage in 2016.

at the time there was no J10c/ce to look at

 

[ety]

The article is fake, not even Rouhani is retarded enough to think he could get Rafales

There are many reports in Chinese media about that. At that time, Iran was having good relation with EU after the nuclear deal.

 

[Ali_Baba]

only problem is they would have been j10a with a mechanical pulse dopler radar with older generation avionics, without any stealth feature, with older less reliable ws-10 engine that only could use pl-8 and PL-11 instead of PL-10 and PL-15 without integrated sensors and battlefield awareness

those planes had zero chance against Israeli aircrafts

If rouhani really stopped that purchase , he must lauded as a hero.
why the way rouhani had nothing to do with stopping that purchase it was air-force who said we don't want it

They were an order of magnitude better than anything Iran had then, or even has now. Had you had that procurement programme in place, then it would have been easy to induct and operationalise the J10CE when it became available, and even the J-35AE as the ecosystem of trained people familiar with the technology would have been available and you have had already solved the problem the integration of Chinese technology into you IADS/AD environment.

Iran made a strategic mistake to not build her air force as demonstrated by the complete dominance of the Tehran airspace by Israel. Look at where Irans "decisions" have gotten it so far, with regards to its air force ?

 

[MH.Yang]

He has flown to Beijing before I think on the Chammae-1, also flew to Vietnam and Singapore. Idk, its theoretically possible to travel to Tehran via Russian airspace.

It's true that Kim Jong-un rarely flies. Kim Jong-un is a very cautious and capable person. even He is actually a political genius, and the Chinese government once suffered a loss because it took him lightly.

 

[Watandar]

Russia is hanging on by its fingernails in Ukraine and had to ask North Korea to help it expel Ukrainians from Kursk. Putin keeps projecting strongman image but he screwed up really badly last few years. Armenia was previously disappointed in lack of Russian help during war with Azerbaijan. China doesn't have a deep relationship with Iran.

Having said that, Iran has been subjected to an isolation campaign by West for 40 years now and needs to do a better job of countering it. It should reset relations with Pakistan and Turkey , deepen its relationship with China and build fresh bilateral relations with Arab and European states. When you are in a struggle with the West and its proxies Israel/GCC, you need to have good relations with the rest of the world.

 

[LittleFish]

What this shows is that this whole "Axis of Resistance" is a farce.

Doesn’t so-called ‘axis of resistance’ consist of Iran and its allies, i.e crescent of Shia plus Hamas? When did China become part of it…

He has flown to Beijing before I think on the Chammae-1, also flew to Vietnam and Singapore. Idk, its theoretically possible to travel to Tehran via Russian airspace.

Kim is extremely cautious and tries best to avoid going abroad. If truely needed, he will travel by train. His father and grandfather taught him not to travel by air for safety.

 

[Qaraca]

Why are you so defensive, I'm just pointing out the obvious, that Russia and China didn't offer anything significant outside of words. China its to be expected, they are cautious in their foreign policy and never commit significantly, Russia though, its a real betrayal, considering how much Iran helped them, but they didn't do anything to preserve their relationship with Israel and the Arab states. In many ways this also shows the mistakes Iran has made in not courting North Korea, the fact that Kim Jong Un has made foreign trips to Moscow and Beijing but never Tehran is a shortcoming on Iran's part. It's also proving a point in that none of these states are an "Axis of Resistance", and that only Nuclear weapons would be a deterrent, not any sort of hope in Russia or China.

This is what a Russian military expert said about Shahed drones recently.

 

[tsunset]

But then how do you explain the lesser frequency of missile launches as the war went on ? I thought the issue truly was Iranian missile bases were disabled and many of the TEL were destroyed and remaining would get detected during launches and attacked ? That was why most Iranian launches were at night as it was more able to hide the TEL ?

Iran quickly changed strategy the second day of the war, the first strategy was "mass missile launch" in salvos of hundreds, then after IDF started hunting for launchers, Iran switched to quicker launches with smaller number of missile, for firing them quick then quickly hide the launchers to avoid being hit

Launching hundreds of missile requires way more time and planning than little salvos of 15-30 every day, and being way more exposed to IDF strikes

 

[hyperman]

When did China become part of it…

There are 2 axis, one which refers to Iran and its proxies and the other is China, Russia, Iran, North Korea groupings people on the internet make.

 

[nang2]

Their bond is rooted in a shared Communist past and the anti-American war on the Korean Peninsula from 1950 to 1953, in which Mao’s China also took part.

What journalism. It makes it sound like China's role in Korean War was minuscule.

 

[OldTwilight]

Iran quickly changed strategy the second day of the war, the first strategy was "mass missile launch" in salvos of hundreds, then after IDF started hunting for launchers, Iran switched to quicker launches with smaller number of missile, for firing them quick then quickly hide the launchers to avoid being hit

Launching hundreds of missile requires way more time and planning than little salvos of 15-30 every day, and being way more exposed to IDF strikes

well, older missiles were not effective and has very low accuracy, I doubt even Zions AD bother itself to engage most of those ...

Modern war are fought base on accuracy... probably we should dispose older generation low tech bm with lunch time of 3-4 hours.

 

[tsunset]

well, older missiles were not effective and has very low accuracy, I doubt even Zions AD bother itself to engage most of those ...

Modern war are fought base on accuracy... probably we should dispose older generation low tech bm with lunch time of 3-4 hours.

Everything that is inbound for Tel Aviv, Israel will do everything to intercept them

If they are for other locations such as airbase, military, they prioritize missiles incoming for cities

Shahab-3 and Ghadr/emad can do huge damage to cities, but with poor precision

 

[F-22Raptor]

US used c. 100 THAAD missiles in 10 days ($1.2 billion, 2-3x annual production of THAAD missiles)

Israel used c. 100 Arrow 2/3 missiles

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Talon production is 80-100 per year when factoring foreign sales. Production for foreign customers can be rerouted to US stockpiles in any critical situation

 

[LittleFish]

the other is China, Russia, Iran, North Korea groupings people on the internet make

Never heard such thing before. Something similar is the so-called “great triangle of CN-RU-IR”, but neither makes sense, just clickbaits.

 

[kastor ville]

Lol, lmao

Like I said, the jews are not going to kill Khamenei or Pezeshkian, these retards are a godsend for them.

Yeah....and Salami was a genius