Rohani, pezeshkoon, Khatami. Only lazy bastards...
Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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Ahhhh if he could articulate, it's already a lot.........
Mighty_Dragon_Strike
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Mr. Raeesi looked serious and far more insightful in this role.
Leadership cannot be taught.
For instance, I know I can explain scientific behaviors very well but I also know that I am not a good leader.
Homajon
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No, because what he said is different:
Russia Seeks Leverage in Iran Nuclear Talks by Offering Uranium Deal
Moscow has offered to manage Iran's enriched uranium, suggesting processing in Russia for peaceful energy use, reaffirming its commitment to the 2015 nuclear agreement.
united24media.com
And even here, it's just words for the public, nobody knows what was really discussed behind the doors.
Anyhow, Twitter is a junk source...always go for real articles.
Nuffle
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This level of acquisition is fully in line with what I have stated is the ideal IRIAF for Iran:Former Iranian military officer: I went to China 9 years ago to buy 100 J-10s, but Rouhani wanted to buy Rafale
2025-07-05 04:00 Source: Fenghuojun
Published in: Liaoning Province
On July 1, 2025, local time, Ata Bahrami, a former officer of the Iranian Air Force and a doctor of Iran, was interviewed by the Iranian media "Energy Line". Through the translation of the words of this former officer of the Iranian Air Force, Ata Bahrami, Ata Bahrami is really optimistic about the J-10 fighter jet made in China. Ata Bahrami said: "I really like and love the J-10 fighter jet (Iran codenamed Jad C-30, this still needs to be studied, why the Iranian Air Force codenamed the J-10 as Jad C-30), of which 100 J-10 fighter jets were originally planned to enter service in the Iranian Air Force.
In 2016, a former Iranian Air Force officer followed the former Iranian Air Force Commander (current Iranian Defense Minister) to inspect the J-10 fighter jet.
Former Iranian Air Force officer Atta Bahrami expressed his love for the J-10 fighter jet
Through analysis, it was learned that he broke the news that in 2016, as a captain officer of the Iranian Air Force, he had followed General Nasirzadeh, the former commander of the Iranian Air Force (currently Iran’s Defense Minister, Nasirzadeh arrived in China earlier to attend the SCO meeting) to visit China. He admired the Chinese-made J-10CE fighter very much and planned to buy 100 of them to form 8 J-10CE fighter squadrons. However, the then Iranian President Rouhani blocked the purchase of the Chinese J-10. The Rouhani government tried to buy Rafale fighters from France, but failed. Atta Bahrami said: "It’s not good to buy Rafale from France", "Well, it’s obvious that France is going to spend more money", "This may be the fault of the Iranian military because the military has a limited budget."
In 2024, the commander of the Iranian Air Force boarded the J-10 fighter jet. In fact, in 2016, the Iranian Air Force had already secretly inspected it.
Many Iranian military personnel or former Iranian military personnel were dissatisfied with the 12-day war between Iran and Israel. The main focus was that the Iranian authorities were too credulous in Western-made weapons. As a result, from the comparison between the India-Pakistan air war and the war between Iran and Israel (there was no air combat), the Pakistani Air Force did not hesitate at all and directly placed an order to purchase the J-10CE fighter jets + PL-15E air-to-air missiles, and successfully seized air superiority within a few hours. On the other hand, the most advanced fighter jets of the Iranian Air Force are only F-14A fighter jets. Not to mention fighting against the Israeli Air Force F-35I fighter jets, it is difficult to even take off safely.
As a result, the purchase of J-10 fighter jets was delayed for 9 years. When the Iranian Air Force saw the results of the Pakistani Air Force, it could only slap its thigh and regret it.
If Iran places an order for 100 J-10 fighter jets from China in 2016, then almost all of these 100 J-10 fighter jets will be delivered to the Iranian Air Force. This means that the Israeli Air Force F-35I, F-15I, and F-16I fighter jets will not have any chance to fly over Iranian airspace and carry out indiscriminate bombing, or even enter unmanned territory. Iran's hypersonic missiles and medium-range ballistic missiles do have a strong counterattack, but if they are covered by J-10 fighter jets, Iran's hypersonic missiles and medium-range ballistic missiles will counterattack more smoothly. At least when launching, there is no need to worry about being caught by Israeli Air Force fighter jets and reconnaissance and strike-in-one armed drones, and directly strike at a reduced dimension.
If the Iranian Air Force bought 100 J-10 fighters 9 years ago, would the Israeli Air Force still dare to launch an aerial bombing? The answer should be no. In fact, the development of the Iranian Air Defense Force is not as big a problem as the Iranian Air Force. Iran has produced its own guerrilla warfare capabilities, battlefield mobility, high survivability Beech air defense missiles, a large number of optoelectronic air defense missiles, infrared air defense missiles, air defense cruise missiles, etc., to ensure that the Iranian Air Defense Force can launch air defense missiles in various situations. As long as the Iranian Air Defense Force does not collapse and resist, it should be able to protect the entire territory of Iran, especially Iran’s important strategic targets, and ensure the smooth launch of Iranian missile launchers, and smash hundreds or thousands of hypersonic missiles and medium-range ballistic missiles at Israel.
Pakistan Air Force became famous with J-10CE + PL-15 air-to-air missiles
According to Iran's missile inventory, it completely overwhelms Israel's Arrow-2/3 anti-missile system, the US Patriot air defense missile system, and the THAAD anti-missile system. But the problem is that Iran's air defense forces collapsed without a fight. They were frightened by the anti-tank missiles and drones launched from the ground by the Israeli Mossad intelligence agents. Iran's air defense forces did not conduct any combat operations. Instead, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard air defense forces achieved very little results with their only anti-aircraft cruise missiles. The Israeli Air Force directly flew the reconnaissance and strike armed drones into the sky over Tehran and began bombing.
Iranian missile launcher destroyed by Israeli army
To put it bluntly, if the Iranian military still does not resist, sabotages each other, and hinders each other, even if the Iranian Air Force now purchases J-10, J-16, J-35, Su-35, and Su-57 fighters, the Iranian Air Defense Force will still not resist, and the Iranian Air Force will still be beaten or win a miserable victory. On the other hand, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps still chooses to fight even when all its senior generals have been silenced.
Israel's Hermes-900 large reconnaissance and strike armed drone was shot down over Iran's Markazi province
For Iran, the J-10 needs to be based on stealth aircraft and a very powerful air-to-ground system to fight against the F-35. The early warning aircraft + ground anti-stealth radar share the data link, and with two electronic warfare J-10s, it may really be able to fight the F-35. In the past 10 years, Iran has shot down and captured US drones many times. The poor performance this time is probably due to the problems of the Iranian Air Defense Force generals and the sabotage of the Israeli Mossad ground.
伊朗前军官：我9年前就去中国，要买100架歼10，鲁哈尼却要买阵风
当地时间2025年7月1日，伊朗空军前军官，伊朗博士，阿塔·巴赫拉米接受了伊朗媒体“能量线”的采访。通过翻译这名伊朗空军前军官，阿塔·巴赫拉米的话来看，阿塔·巴赫拉米真的很看好中国制造的歼-10战斗机，阿塔·巴赫拉米表示：“我真的很喜欢并热爱歼-10战斗机www-sohu-com.translate.goog
I don't know how Iran's air commands are divided, but I'll divide them by regions:
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Interceptor/Multirole Aircraft: Su-35/J-10CE - 5-10 squadrons (120 aircraft)
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
if that was true it's even more embarrassing, not sure why they thought admitting it was a good idea
they forgot to wake up Shamkhani and Abbasi and... etc I guess
Immortals
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1) ChatGPT cannot do advanced simulations of (classified) weaponary performance. So its response is no better than any OSINT or talking head
2) the bunker busters didn’t have to penetrate 80M of bedrock, they used the ventilation shafts that Iran poorly concealed and designed.
Nuffle
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It is high time for Iran to consolidate its armed forces (Artesh + Sepah)
Garcia Sea
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Bunker busters are equipped with highly advanced fuses that detonate precisely at the planned depth.
This allows them to progressively penetrate rock layers, easily destroying even deeply buried facilities.
There is no doubt that the Fordow facility sustained significant damage.
This allows them to progressively penetrate rock layers, easily destroying even deeply buried facilities.
There is no doubt that the Fordow facility sustained significant damage.
kastor ville
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Don't make me laugh....it's a little late for that. They've got only themselves to blame for this colosual intelligence failure
kastor ville
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Sounds like a propaganda website trying to hide blame.....yep, I'm sure without those people interfering we would be waving our flag in Tel Aviv
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Lulldapull
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Probably a smart thing to do. Other than nuke subs and space equipment.......there's really nothing else worth procuring from the Russians no?
Even less from China.
AZADPAKISTAN2009
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Spain has become my 2nd favourite country after Turkey and China
No wonder I love Real Madrid and Spain football
AZADPAKISTAN2009
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he is an American asset they killed real president in helicopter crash
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