India Lucky Not To Lose More Than Four Rafales

I have a feeling this is exaggerated by the CAS.
It is likely 2-3 Rafales at most.
It is possible that M2k loss is being miscommunicated.

Moreover, if solely based on electronic signatures the words should be claimed - not lost.
 
Thank you for thinking in a clear manner. I was trying to argue similar points in another thread. But members, instead of understanding what I was pointing out, started to throw insults and call me Indian. With such thinking and attitude, they would never be able to think and act rationally.
Pakistan shot down 6/7 Indian jets, whatever the number is; well done by Pakistan. But with the same token, they have to question why it wasn't done proactively and India stopped from attacking Pakistan.
Exactly the point I had made repeatedly: why was the IAF not decimated when Pakistan had total control of the war theatre? Plus, when they could jam and neutralise Indian assets, how and why were the IAF allowed to bomb Pakistani civil areas and kill innocent Pakistanis? And later cause damage to Pakistan airfields and nuclear facilities? It doesn't make sense. Unless somewhere up the chain, people lost the bottle. There is nothing else that could be deduced from Pakistan's reluctance to cause untold damage to India.
Classic case of the b.s. sandwich folks.

Many legitimate members have cited evidence and logic in pointing out Pakistan's shortcomings during the op, particularly in decisiveness, civilian leadership and decision making algorithms.

Contrarily, you and a select few others have certainly hinted at some of the same rational critique, but have also thrown in patent falsehoods that circulate ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY within the mainstream Indian media echo chamber (see bold text regarding damage to nuclear assets).

Presumably, the aim is to quietly embed the one falsehood per post until it becomes fossilised within the discourse.

An unwitting reader who yesterday might have legitimately bemoaned "Pakistan's suboptimal final kill count, due to restraint, and resulting in India's continued belligerence, leading to a hars counterstrike with missiles." would tomorrow add the addendum "with missiles striking our nuclear assets" because of the fossilised untruths initiated by unscrupulous posters like you.

We know the trick very well around here.

It's called a b.s. sandwich. Put a thin layer of unmitigated b.s. in between 2 layers of truth (or at least, 2 layers of what the majority has been rationalising already) and expect us all to eat it up.

It's this layer of b.s. radiating from your posts that raises a flag or two. Same goes for several others around here. 🧐
 
India should destroy Pakistan’s nuclear weapons that’s the only way to prevent nuclear exchange in the region
One way could be to force Pakistan to launch all of its nuclear weapons at India.
As they hit and detonate over targets including Indian military bases and cities - perhaps even you - those weapons will be destroyed and in that process it’s possible India may not be able to retaliate and it prevents any exchange.

Just an idea
 
I have a feeling this is exaggerated by the CAS.
It is likely 2-3 Rafales at most.
It is possible that M2k loss is being miscommunicated.

Moreover, if solely based on electronic signatures the words should be claimed - not lost.
I think M2K evidence is out in the open, videos and pics both, plenty of them right after M2K crashed on a school. So I am sure the CAS and PAF know about it.

My guess is that the other 2 rafales whose wreckage we haven't seen happened to fall by pure luck in an area with no humans...over kashmir.... or into some river/lakes.....and IAF quickly went in SAR to control any leak of vids and pics.....and this could all be possible that Bhatinda Rafale was shot some time before the other 2/3 rafales.....so once IAF realized that jets getting blown, they sent in heavy manpower to guard the wreck sites.

I also think PAF has enough pictorial or satellite evidence to confirm the same at a later stage. Could be to not upset French.

Single Rafale loss has rattled pretty much every airforce in the world.....imagine what the confirmation of 2-3 more will do.
 

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Remember on the night of 6/7 May, being woken up by noise of fighter jets at around 2.30 am , knew something was cooking .
TV channels were already reporting on the Indian misadventure and then Wasim Badami started reporting on PAF actions, the first confirmation to come through within the first hour was shooting down of Two Rafale jets and then news of more jets being shot down .
 
I have a feeling this is exaggerated by the CAS.
It is likely 2-3 Rafales at most.
It is possible that M2k loss is being miscommunicated.

Moreover, if solely based on electronic signatures the words should be claimed - not lost.

I am not so sure, Warnes knows his stuff, it would have been crystal clear considering the importance of the event what exactly CAS said.

We have a week to wait for AFM to come out so sure we will learn more here....
 
Yesterday, I spent considerable time trying to make a similar point. But instead of pondering what I was saying with proofs from the quotes of Pakistani officials and ministers, some members started to throw insults, and some even wanted the moderators to take action against me.
Pakistan has full radar and satellite coverage of Indian attacks on 6/7 July; now it is made clear by none other than AC Babar Sindhu that Pakistan has mastery of EW and jammed Indian assets.
Under such control and mastery of the skies, why wasn't the IAF destroyed to the point of no return, and why was the IAF allowed to attack Pakistani civilian sites and kill innocent Pakistanis and later hit Pakistani airbases and nuclear facilities?
When we look at Indian resources, almost all Indians are joyous from the fact that Pakistan was unable to stop their attacks on their airbases and civilian sites.
I am very curious: why was this allowed to happen? I know exact reasons; they are there in plain sight, but Pakistanis are not ready to understand and question their leadership, both political and military.

Sit down Apu, no one is buying the BS anymore
 
I think M2K evidence is out in the open, videos and pics both, plenty of them right after M2K crashed on a school. So I am sure the CAS and PAF know about it.

My guess is that the other 2 rafales whose wreckage we haven't seen happened to fall by pure luck in an area with no humans...over kashmir.... or into some river/lakes.....and IAF quickly went in SAR to control any leak of vids and pics.....and this could all be possible that Bhatinda Rafale was shot some time before the other 2/3 rafales.....so once IAF realized that jets getting blown, they sent in heavy manpower to guard the wreck sites.

I also think PAF has enough pictorial or satellite evidence to confirm the same at a later stage. Could be to not upset French.

Single Rafale loss has rattled pretty much every airforce in the world.....imagine what the confirmation of 2-3 more will do.

Professional militaries don't care about hurting feelings, the French understand this, the sold the aircraft to be used in combat, I don't really understand this argument of PAF not revealing kills to upset x
 
I am not so sure, Warnes knows his stuff, it would have been crystal clear considering the importance of the event what exactly CAS said.

We have a week to wait for AFM to come out so sure we will learn more here....
He is a journalist who is quoting Pakistani airspace chief. That's all.
Take it or leave it. That's up to the reader.
 

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