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[SteppeWolff]

I want to watch the sapranos but I have a terrible habit of binging a show to about 70% then getting distracted and never finishing it.

Sopranos is a masterpiece. You really should watch it if you have the time for it.

 

[Tremain]

Sopranos is a masterpiece. You really should watch it if you have the time for it.

All my storage media is full right now but I think that would be a splendid idea.

Binge watched "Sons of Anarchy" from start to finish..... best show ever.

 

[PakAl]

"Verbal agreement was the original nikah, with witnesses but an legal written agreement is a must these days, people can marry someone daughter and after one night claim they never married them or slept with them, people even run away after marriage and deny marriage, all sort of issues.

Anyways back to topic. No person should be supporting the man in the above situation, he just be punished."

@PakAl where did you get this witness clause from ? It's a humble request from me to please find me a Quranic verse which categorically states the presence of witnesses to solmenise the original Nikah .


As for the people/men running away after sleeping with some people's/men daughter , well the daughter could be a culprit too , no ? Slept , robbed and ran away with valuables ? Or either genders can just call it a day on the very next day and send a divorce notice then what you gonna do about that ? If you are concerned about long term marital relationship then it can never be forced upon a couple .

Brother this is the issue with modern Muslims, they don't study Islam deeply. I give you example, by asking evidence only from the Quran is not entirely correct. We as Muslims follow Islamic sharia law, this law is derived from Quran, which is translated and explain by great classical ulema, we follow Prophet peace be upon him sunnah which is a living Quran, then Sahaba, Ahle Bayt, Salaf us Saliheen, Ijtima and Qiyas of the ulema and ummah, we also follow fatwas of the muftis which are based on individual circumstances. All this forms Islamic sharia law, not Quran alone.

According to the above, Islamic marriage needs wali and witnesses, so its not a secret marriage, yes some disagree but majority agree and we follow the Jamaah. Their are plenty of hadith which state how marriage is done.

 

[PakAl]

Sopranos is a masterpiece. You really should watch it if you have the time for it.

I loved breaking bad, better call Saul, Narcos, still haven't watched Sopranos. It's not on Netflix at the moment.

 

[Anaa]

this law is derived from Quran

Brother the Quran addresses the whole of mankind not just a bunch of 1.50 billion out of an 8 or so billion pool of humanity so it won't be a rocket science for anyone literate to get the gist of the Quranic Nikah if Muslims themselves claim it to be the primary source of law. Don't you think rest is just opinion of people?

 

[Anaa]

Islamic marriage needs wali and witnesses

But the Hanafi jurisprudence which the majority sunni populace of Pakistan follows doesn't require wali/guardian for a nikah to be validated and present Quranic reference in favour of their argument .

I would rather go with a Quranic reference than otherwise .

 

[ghazi52]

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

All my storage media is full right now but I think that would be a splendid idea.

Binge watched "Sons of Anarchy" from start to finish..... best show ever.

You know, I can recommend some good OTC sleeping meds. Should be available in Pakistan too.

 

[Tremain]

You know, I can recommend some good OTC sleeping meds. Should be available in Pakistan too.

I can easily knock myself out without drugs. I'm trained in micro-sleep.

And then, there is my favorite knock out tool... ASMR:

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[ghazi52]

 

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[AZ_HighCountry]

I can easily knock myself out without drugs. I'm trained in micro-sleep.

And then, there is my favorite knock out tool... ASMR:

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That was annoying. I'm not sure her attractiveness can compensate.

 

[Davey Crockett]

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Never.