Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Areesh]

The only metric that matters in a conflict is number of casualties (after sq km of territory captured which was itreleavnt in this conflict)

By PAFs own admission, 6 personnel including an officer were killed.
Whereas on the IAF Side only one nursing sergeant was killed.

That itself shows which side got more damage

Kia baighairat aadmi hai yaar

Matlab sharam to chu kar bhi nahi guzri

 

[Areesh]

There's visual evidence for 1 Rafale, 1 Mig-29 and 1 Mirage 2000. I think the aircraft that landed in that school in IoK was the M2K, the crash site in the trees was the Mig-29, and of course the Rafale in Punjab. I'm not convinced the crash site of what's claimed to be the Su-30MKI is accurate, to me the wreckage looks like the Heron UAV. So we're missing any visual clues for the other 3 Rafales and a definite Su-30MKI, but clearly the PAF are convinced of the data they have.

Lol no su30mki





French air chief confirming SU30 getting shot down along with Rafale and mirage

 

[Vapnope]

Kia baighairat aadmi hai yaar

Matlab sharam to chu kar bhi nahi guzri

Bhai tu kis se behas kr rha hai !
So 6 planes were hit but only a nursing staff was hurt. Konsi missile proof lohay ki chaddi pehni hoi hai IAF ne bhai!

 

[flyingorca]

Probably the most unbiased and balanced view of the conflict :

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Not quite, no mention of S400 distruction, and 4 visually confirmed IAF jets shot down. The author only states that Pakistan has claimed of shooting down but never stated it as confirmed kills.
Also, just because India has claimed of destroying terrorists camps does not mean they really were. What next, India drops missiles at chereya ghar and the west reports it as terrorists hide out? F that man.

 

[Areesh]

Bhai tu kis se behas kr rha hai !
So 6 planes were hit but only a nursing staff was hurt. Konsi missile proof lohay ki chaddi pehni hoi hai IAF ne bhai!

Behas nahi kar raha

Just astonished at the level of shamelessness. Hum nahi hotai na aisai baisharam. Isi liye hairan ho raha hoon

But then I know this clown @Assault Rifle very well. Got dozens of his profiles banned in the old forum

Looking at his IQ I am pretty sure k yeh cousin marriage ka nateeja hai

 

[Cash gk]

My apologies for this oversight. Please accept my sympathies.

Apologies, cannot be accepted. Seriously what you guys were thinking how you can start a fight with an atomic power being an atomic power.
Tum logon ne to sirf 4 din mein, chhe saat jahaz tabah karwa diye, S-400 waghera tabah ker side per oh gey. Ab jo hamari baj raye , woh taqreeban chhe saal chalegi. Ab woh Field Marshal bhi ban gaye hain. Thumry ungli hum Pakistanino ko both mangi Par raye hain..

 

[Cash gk]

Oddly enough the PAF fmr CAS is claiming that capability to do this was demonstrated. I have also heard from other channels incl one who survived the Bholari hit that assets were flying well into India on the 10th.

Now, I cannot deny believing them as much as I can deny believing the opposite side. That being said, I believe there were less "hits" from the Pakistani side but also a lot of excessive "live to fight another day" behavior from the Indian side.

It truly does seem that many in the Indian military see through the political motives of certain actions and it reduces the fighting spirit regarding those actions.

This looks genuine, especially considering the lady pilot and the fourth Rafale’s encounter and destruction, which was then followed by the declaration of a ceasefire from the Indian side.

I believe that on 10th May, India tried to deploy their Air Force again. However, when their fourth Rafale was destroyed and their lady pilot, Swangi, went missing, they realized they could not continue this fight and decided to leave the matter for another day.

Adding to this, a journalist who spoke to Pakistan’s AGV claimed that Pakistan was controlling the Indian communication system during this time. This meant that on 10th May, when India attempted to mobilize in the field again, their communication failure forced them to go for a ceasefire.

At that point, Pakistani jet fighters were reportedly flying deep inside Indian airspace — it was clearly stated that Pakistan had control up to 250 km inside India. This overwhelming air superiority and disruption of Indian communication systems left India with no option but to step back.

 

[side-winder]

You being an expert might have access to “horses mouth”.

I don’t have that luxury but do have access to friend’s friend kind of information and what has been told is that nothing was flying. Infact, the IAF was hoping like hell and S400s were being kept ready all through.
The sensors spread across the borders are adequate to detect an asset even in the densest EW scenario. Crossing this side appears a little unlikely to me.

I am pretty convinced that professionals were aware of all the consequences and had no inclination to escalate the situation to point of no return. This was displayed by both the sides.

Our fighters didn't actually cross into indian side. However, as a matter of fact, they were flying pretty close to LoC / IB to launch the munitions. Couple of them literally turning around from exactly over the LoC. Whereas, the western bases of IAF were silent as a grave. No scrambles or anything like that. The only persistent threat was the SAMs. And couple of our planes were actually locked however, got lucky to break the locks with quick manuvers.

That's straight from "horses mouth" that i can say on a personal note with 100% surety. Same thing about IAF's absence repeated by AM (R) Arshad Malik and former CAS Sohail Aman when PAF was hovering around the borders.

Having random friend's friend sort of sources don't really help - trust me. I don't discredit your source but may be he just didn't have the right information. The air forces have dozens of branches. Mostly ground branches incl logistics, accounts, education, etc - The personnel of these branches have absolutely zero knowledge about the Ops parameters and facts and mostly rely on hearsay within the airforce just as a common civilian does. Unless you directly heard from someone sitting on console with radar picture. Or someone at other key Ops seat. You can't really take your "insider" info as credible.

 

[Cash gk]

Our fighters didn't actually cross into indian side. However, as a matter of fact, they were flying pretty close to LoC / IB to launch the munitions. Couple of them literally turning around from exactly over the LoC. Whereas, the western bases of IAF were silent as a grave. No scrambles or anything like that. The only persistent threat was the SAMs. And couple of our planes were actually locked however, got lucky to break the locks with quick manuvers.

That's straight from "horses mouth" that i can say on a personal note with 100% surety. Same thing about IAF's absence repeated by AM (R) Arshad Malik and former CAS Sohail Aman when PAF was hovering around the borders.

They got very scared when they saw Pakistaní drones were flying over Delhi

 

[Yasser76]

Who made this video? Part fact part fiction. Better than most Hollywood movies of same genre . Throughly enjoyed watching .

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Very realistic, nice video

 

[Vkdindian1]

Our fighters didn't actually cross into indian side. However, as a matter of fact, they were flying pretty close to LoC / IB to launch the munitions. Couple of them literally turning around from exactly over the LoC. Whereas, the western bases of IAF were silent as a grave. No scrambles or anything like that. The only persistent threat was the SAMs. And couple of our planes were actually locked however, got lucky to break the locks with quick manuvers.

That's straight from "horses mouth" that i can say on a personal note with 100% surety. Same thing about IAF's absence repeated by AM (R) Arshad Malik and former CAS Sohail Aman when PAF was hovering around the borders.

After the losses on 7th, they would have needed more time to find out the exact tactics used by the PAF to down their aircraft. It would have been foolish to show bravado in such a scenario. It was better to change the tactics and use weapons that could do the job.

That must have prompted them to fire standoff weapons, without exposing themselves to BVRs.

What weapons were your fighters firing? There was a lot of talk about a CM400 strike on S400, but nothing else has been spoken about.

 

[side-winder]

What weapons were your fighters firing? There was a lot of talk about a CM400 strike on S400, but nothing else has been spoken about.

Lets not talk about that - here

But it wasn’t just a single mission of a pair of JF 17s launching CM400s. Alot of other sorties as well.

Btw, im not discrediting your source but i have explained in my previous post (updated).

 

[Ali_Baba]

What happened to the Israeli Phalcon whose sensors are so powerful they would fry the avionic suites of PAF jets?

Like most other Israeli products, not as effective as the advertising brochures suggested of their performance. If you consider the undoing of Israeli EW and other systems in 2019, and now lack of effective AWACS control via the Phalcon, it doesn't do Israel image/brand of their military products any favor's.

 

[Yasser76]

Like most other Israeli products, not as effective as the advertising brochures suggested of their performance. If you consider the undoing of Israeli EW and other systems in 2019, and now lack of effective AWACS control via the Phalcon doesn't do their brand any favours.

Israelis are great salespeople, very good.

Products overhyped. India accounts for 30-40% of all their defence sales. Take away that and stuff co-developed with the US, they really are not that impressive.

 

[Cash gk]

Israelis are great salespeople, very good.

Products overhyped. India accounts for 30-40% of all their defence sales. Take away that and stuff co-developed with the US, they really are not that impressive.

They are so good salesman that they made Indians believe that Pakistaní is Palestine. They are Israel.