Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[I*R*A]

That may be your assumption but not the reality.
Rest of the world have seen those Sat pics of Pakistani airbases hit by Indian missiles launched by IAF itself to reach your conclusion.

Do you realise your admission in your posts? The Braveheart IAF, the champions IAF of chaddiz launched missiles ... same IAF that has claimed Balakot strikes and a day before attacked Pakistan's mainland thinking they were invincible.

Why did not the same invincible IAF fly their jets to attack Pakistan? Oh wait how could they, they were short of adult diapers.

 

[Baibers_1260]

ek hijabi, ek sardarji, ek arunachal/tibet wala.

Well blow me, they got the whole fkin DEI spectrum in there.

And every Pakistani is a "janab".

All political objectives attained in 5 minutes.

Why are Bollywood movies even longer than 5 minutes any more?

Ever seen an elected chief minister of a "democratic " country climb a wall and trespass then get arrested by his own police?

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@suriya

 

[NA71]

That may be your assumption but not the reality.
Rest of the world have seen those Sat pics of Pakistani airbases hit by Indian missiles launched by IAF itself to reach your conclusion.

Just for your reference and Brain overhauling :

1.

South Asia’s Largest BVR Aerial Battle: Inside the 125-Fighter Jet BVR Battle Between India and Pakistan That Caught the World’s Attention​

South Asia’s Largest BVR Aerial Battle: Inside the 125-Fighter Jet BVR Battle Between India and Pakistan That Caught the World’s Attention

South Asia became the stage for what is now being called the largest Beyond Visual Range (BVR) aerial engagement in history. The massive aerial clash between the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) and the Indian Air Force (IAF) on May 7–8, 2025, involved over 125 combat aircraft and has since captured the...

theasialive.com

2. Inside the Largest Beyond Visual Range (BVR) Aerial Combat between India and Pakistan

Inside the largest Beyond Visual Range Aerial Combat between India and Pakistan

www.ir-ia.com

3. PL-15 Vs Meteor: Does The Chinese Missile Give Pakistan Air Force An Edge Over
Indian Rafales?

https://swarajyamag.com/defence/pl-15-vs-meteor-does-the-chinese-missile-give-pakistan-air-force-an-edge-over-indian-rafales

4. China’s PL-15 Air-To-Air Missile Appears To Have Been Used In Combat For The First Time

China’s PL-15 Air-To-Air Missile Appears To Have Been Used In Combat For The First Time

The apparent use of China's PL-15 by Pakistan in the recent eruption of hostilities with India comes as Rafale shoot-down claims swirl. A French intelligence official has reportedly confirmed the combat loss of an Indian Air Force Rafale taking part in recent strikes.

www.twz.com

5. Lessons from the Indo-Pakistani Air Battle

The Prospect Foundation－Prospects & Perspectives－Lessons from the Indo-Pakistani Air Battle

www.pf.org.tw

and many more

 

[Taimoor]

The PAF effectively had air superiority inside Western parts of India post 7-May. The next day when there was a brief mum, the Indians kept sending drones inside Pakistan trying to gather intel and overwhelm Pakistan’s defenses.

I believe the Indians thought this will be the end of it when Pakistanis were being pressured to deescalate. 10-May, is when Bunyan un Marsoos was initiated with strikes on multiple locations inside India and Indians firing missiles on Pakistan’s AFB.

Going back, post Balakot, the PAF knew the importance of having live satellite feeds. Thats how they were able to scramble jets pre 7-May and blinded the 4 Rafales and the 70 odd IAF package on 7-May.

Taking the above into consideration, there certainly are areas of improvement for the Pakistani side.

Shift from a defensive posture to a more offensive one. What does the PAF and PA do when air superiority is achieved? Clean up Indian ADs through DEAD operations. Strike at Indian assets along the LoC. Strikes on Pathankot pressuring Indian logistics north into IoK. I’d invite members here to be constructive and give alternatives on what can Pakistani forced do when opportunities like these are gifted.

Going forward, I see this as a mindset problem. Pakistan probably did not think in its strategic calculation, that it can achieve air superiority and eventually up the ante and the ability to gain an upper hand in negotiating terms diplomatically.

Some may see this as an opportunity lost, but as they say, no battle plan survives the first enemy fire.

You rightly highlighted the mindset. And the government selling this narrative that shooting down of IAF jets was enough "response" (even though it was in defence), that should be the eye opener of what Muneera and Co in GHQ were working on. The delay in response, those 48 hours, these people were looking for off ramp with Trump administration.

So when the priority of these usurpers in GHQ is to focus on the internal power dynamics of Pakistan, and hold on power with all dirty means necessary, dealing with enemy nations goes well down the priority list. Just look at the choice of weapons used by these GHQ rats, F1 and F2! These are battlefield weapons, they are not the heavy duty tactical or even strategic, they are rockets for crying out loud! Muneera and Co is sitting on array of missiles, yet they choose the bear minimum lower tear battlefield stuff!

PAF on the other hand used all the heavy duty top end. PL15s, BREK, CM400, and other stuff.

There is a stark and very visible difference between the two service's response. It all boil down to one being apolitical and other neck deep in all sorts of crap. And when you have fingers in every pie and made commitments to foreign entities (which is not your domain to begin with) , its natural that the laser focus on the job which one is hired for erodes.

This will remain the issue in future conflicts/wars as well, if course correction is not done. PAF has always outshined army in all the previous hostilities throughout our history.

 

[falcon34]

That may be your assumption but not the reality.
Rest of the world have seen those Sat pics of Pakistani airbases hit by Indian missiles launched by IAF itself to reach your conclusion.

Than why did India agree to ceasefire, let's our runways we're destroyed, aircrafts unable to takeoff, what stopped India from destroying PAF on the ground??.
The only logical explanation to a sudden ceasefire can be you lost S400s, no fly zone imposed by PAF on IAF. Ur only option was ground launched missiles. And that was answered on 10 may.
Prove me wrong now....

 

[Trailer23]

Well guys..., as promised - my own video edit on: Operation Bunyan Marsoos

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I can just picture the neighbors taking their cellphones out with Google Urdu Translation...

 

[suriya]

Just for your reference and Brain overhauling :

1.

South Asia’s Largest BVR Aerial Battle: Inside the 125-Fighter Jet BVR Battle Between India and Pakistan That Caught the World’s Attention​

South Asia’s Largest BVR Aerial Battle: Inside the 125-Fighter Jet BVR Battle Between India and Pakistan That Caught the World’s Attention

South Asia became the stage for what is now being called the largest Beyond Visual Range (BVR) aerial engagement in history. The massive aerial clash between the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) and the Indian Air Force (IAF) on May 7–8, 2025, involved over 125 combat aircraft and has since captured the...

theasialive.com

2. Inside the Largest Beyond Visual Range (BVR) Aerial Combat between India and Pakistan

Inside the largest Beyond Visual Range Aerial Combat between India and Pakistan

www.ir-ia.com

3. PL-15 Vs Meteor: Does The Chinese Missile Give Pakistan Air Force An Edge Over
Indian Rafales?

https://swarajyamag.com/defence/pl-15-vs-meteor-does-the-chinese-missile-give-pakistan-air-force-an-edge-over-indian-rafales

4. China’s PL-15 Air-To-Air Missile Appears To Have Been Used In Combat For The First Time

China’s PL-15 Air-To-Air Missile Appears To Have Been Used In Combat For The First Time

The apparent use of China's PL-15 by Pakistan in the recent eruption of hostilities with India comes as Rafale shoot-down claims swirl. A French intelligence official has reportedly confirmed the combat loss of an Indian Air Force Rafale taking part in recent strikes.

www.twz.com

5. Lessons from the Indo-Pakistani Air Battle

The Prospect Foundation－Prospects & Perspectives－Lessons from the Indo-Pakistani Air Battle

www.pf.org.tw

and many more

None of them claim pakistan had air superiority over Indian skies.
And most of them are quoting what pakistan said giving Pakistani as source and not any independent information.

 

[falcon34]

None of them claim pakistan had air superiority over Indian skies.
And most of them are quoting what pakistan said giving Pakistani as source and not any independent information.

Than why TF did you lot agree to ceasefire, why aren't you answering this.

 

[suriya]

Than why did India agree to ceasefire, let's our runways we're destroyed, aircrafts unable to takeoff, what stopped India from destroying PAF on the ground??.
The only logical explanation to a sudden ceasefire can be you lost S400s, no fly zone imposed by PAF on IAF. Ur only option was ground launched missiles. And that was answered on 10 may.
Prove me wrong now....

India agree to ceasefire because India had stated from the day one that India targeting terrorist training centre and not the Pakistani military installation.

Once pakistan said they are ready to ceasefire and India agreed to it with a clear warning that further terror attacks in India would see similar strikes inside Pakistan as done in Ops Sindoor.

 

[onlinpunit]

Please accept our apologies, we could not mobilize our cameramen before the missile strikes, or else we would have provided your requested images. This is noted for future strikes, we will make sure our quality of service is at par with your expectations, ready, smile, camera, kaboom, photo. Would you like to see that posted on this forum or sent to you via mail?

Camera are not essential. You can use satellite images. Oh wait !! You don't have those as well. Right ?

 

[vasanthm]

Ever seen an elected chief minister of a "democratic " country climb a wall and trespass then get arrested by his own police?

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@suriya

Happens all the time in India, welcome to our loud messy democracy where even elected officials aren’t above the law. Chief Ministers, MPs, MLAs can end up getting arrested… It’s called separation of powers.

 

[onlinpunit]

Why?

Why would we share videos that will lead to incompetent senior military planners in Hindustan losing their jobs?

Give me oen SINGLE good reason that is in Pakistan's interests that we should share evidence of missile damage exerted by Pakistan upon India.

Air superiority has been proved. That is enough. We actually want your idiots to keep their jobs.

Then dont claim !! I have never denied aerial loses.
But if some is claiming damages to indian bases then onus is on them to prove it.

 

[I*R*A]

Camera are not essential. You can use satellite images. Oh wait !! You don't have those as well. Right ?

Should we feel ashamed because we do not have satellites? You have them, what did you achieve? Oh Wait ...

Must be hard to live with this humiliation that rockets of a much smaller nation that you thought is failed have landed in your super power country, regardless of whether something was hit or not. On top of it losing fighter jets to us losers. Hard to cope.

I do think, Is it going to stop at 7-0 or will it be love - 0?

 

[Baibers_1260]

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Happens all the time in India, welcome to our loud messy democracy where even elected officials aren’t above the law. Chief Ministers, MPs, MLAs can end up getting arrested… It’s called separation of powers.

We are much better. We hang our ex-Prime Minister when convicted and sentenced for murder, and imprison a sitting Prime Minister for refusing to step down after loosing the vote of confidence over corruption.
We haven't elected an accused terrorist from jail into Parliament yet,:

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/terror-accused-hindu-hardliner-pragya-thakurwins-parliamentary-seat-in-bhopal-idUSKCN1ST1I6/

 

[NA71]

None of them claim pakistan had air superiority over Indian skies.
And most of them are quoting what pakistan said giving Pakistani as source and not any independent information.

sorry.... you need some med attention ...bro be quick.