Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Yasser76]

Yes, we’ve had shady politicians, but Indian law bars anyone convicted with a 2+ year sentence from holding office. Some stick around due to delayed appeals, but once conviction is upheld, they’re out. It’s messy, but still driven by voters, not generals or judges.

Sit this one out, hey champ?

Narendra Modi 'allowed' Gujarat 2002 anti-Muslim riots

Gujarat's chief minister deliberately allowed anti-Muslim riots in 2002, which left more than 1,000 people dead, India's Supreme Court hears.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[NationalistPKDude132]

Xi is shaking hand of a person who has killed countless civilians of Pakistan.

I AM DISGUSTED INDEED !!

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while these guys talk china already provided us with z10 helicopters mf its all business at the end of the day

 

[ARMalik]

while these guys talk china already provided us with z10 helicopters mf its all business at the end of the day

RIght - if this is case then surely Pakistan can invite Dalai Lama to Pakistan?? Surely China should not have any problems isn't it???

 

[vasanthm]

But if your voters are 10% more likely to elect someone with a criminal case against them, does that not compromise your electorate's ability to make informed decisions regarding their government?

By the way, rather than "democracy" per se, the issue here is "rule of law". India does not seem to follow through functionally with regards to rule of law. Some politicians and candidates seem to be "above the law" for various reason, and worse, the electorate either doesn't know or doesn't care. The Indian electorate is not capable of implementing democracy as a form of governance due to simple ignorance and/or apprehension in implementing rule of law.

If "rule by convicts" rather than "rule of law" is what you are happy with then carry on.

The criminal politician issue is a challenge, no doubt, but it reflects systemic delays and political misuse of legal cases, not the absence of rule of law. India’s institutions do function, just not always as fast or cleanly as we’d like. uninformed voters exist everywhere. The strength of Indian democracy is that power still rests with the people, not unelected institutions or shadowy gatekeepers. It’s a work in progress, but it’s ours.

 

[vasanthm]

Sit this one out, hey champ?

Narendra Modi 'allowed' Gujarat 2002 anti-Muslim riots

Gujarat's chief minister deliberately allowed anti-Muslim riots in 2002, which left more than 1,000 people dead, India's Supreme Court hears.

www.bbc.co.uk

Two words "people's mandate"

 

[ARMalik]

None of them claim pakistan had air superiority over Indian skies.
And most of them are quoting what pakistan said giving Pakistani as source and not any independent information.

Shut up idiot.

 

[Yasser76]

while these guys talk china already provided us with z10 helicopters mf its all business at the end of the day

India media likes to fool it's people, explains the delusions of some of the poster on here. Xi greeted all the FMs attending SCO meet, here he is greetuing Dar, Dar however got a full cabinet level meeting, Jaihandshacker just got a handshake....

Dar meets Xi ahead of SCO foreign ministers’ meeting in China

Reaffirms commitment to Pak-China friendship; meets with foreign ministers of Iran, Uzbekistan, other SCO member states.

www.dawn.com

 

[Yasser76]

Two words "people's mandate"

Two words Visa Ban

 

[Baibers_1260]

But if your voters are 10% more likely to elect someone with a criminal case against them, does that not compromise your electorate's ability to make informed decisions regarding their government?

By the way, rather than "democracy" per se, the issue here is "rule of law". India does not seem to follow through functionally with regards to rule of law. Some politicians and candidates seem to be "above the law" for various reason, and worse, the electorate either doesn't know or doesn't care. The Indian electorate is not capable of implementing democracy as a form of governance due to simple ignorance and/or apprehension in implementing rule of law.

If "rule by convicts" rather than "rule of law" is what you are happy with then carry on.

@vasanthm

Any convictions in the largest single event massacre in recent South Asian history ( Nellie, Assam 1983 ) . 3000 Muslims killed before "India Today" correspondents and graphically photographed by IT photojournalists.
No perpetrators were ever convicted . A few of those involved were elected to the state legislature and one becoming the chief minister of the state.
The official report on the massacre, the Tiwari Commission report, remains a secret and has never been made public
Before Srebrenica in Bosnia, the Nellie massacre was the largest single day massacre documented by journalists present.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Indian Kashmiris are pissed because now, under Indian Constitution, Land Rights can be awarded to non-Kashmiris (of course, Hinud Pandits!)

 

[onlinpunit]

India claims Shivangi is alive. Prove it.

Not for me or for Pakistan's sake, but for the sake of her parents who expect their warrior daughter to receive admiration for her martyrdom, not silent humiliation.

U have claimed to capture her ! Right ? So prove it!.

 

[Baibers_1260]

Exactly, she wasn’t convicted when elected. She spent 11 years in jail under trial, but without a conviction, the law didn’t bar her. That’s how due process works. It’s not perfect, but if you start banning the accused from contesting, it’ll be misused in no time. Voters may be foolish, but it’s still their mandate

Did you see the follow up article? The convictions came in 2024 long after Phoolan herself was shot dead in a Thakur retaliation.
Talk about the wild west. You murder on live TV in the Yogi Raj,

Atiq Ahmed: The life of India's gangster-politician killed on live TV

Atiq Ahmed was an MP but also had around 100 criminal cases against him.

www.bbc.com

 

[Baibers_1260]

U have claimed to capture her ! Right ? So prove it!.

No official in Pakistan has claimed to capture any Indian Air Force pilot ( since Abhinandan's tea party).
So why are you saying "U have claimed to capture her. Right? "

I thought one liner comments were banned on this forum.

 

[vasanthm]

Two words Visa Ban

Whatever the world thinks, India’s course is set by its voters, not by coups or army generals

 

[Cipher212]

What exactly was the purpose of Operation Sindoor?

Even if what Indians claim was present in places like Bahawalpur and Muridke then already we know an airstrike makes no difference. Coalition found this out as well after 18 years in Afghanistan.

Cratering Sargodha runway or damaging an AWACS also makes no difference to us. If such minimal losses achieved anything then India would have dissolved after crashing a dozen fighter jets every year.

So this was just a PR campaign that went on a bit longer than usual because they were salty on losing so many jets the first night?