Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[Meengla]

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Julani thought he could placate Israel by throwing Iran and Hezbollah under the bus and offering partnership with Israel against Iran and Hezbollah
but Israel sensed weakness and has no interest in peace, only domination

Some pro Palestinian credible Western analysts have used 'the former country of Syria' and Syria is the latest 'American proxy' in the region.
I knew from 2011 what was happening to Syria and why. But, hey, 'freedom and democracy' has arrived in Syria!!
Israel deserves the spoils of war because its larger neighborhood population and leaders, along with a fair number of PDF members, are not the sharpest tool in the shed.

 

[Foinikas]

Stop spamming with this old articles and garbage

Old articles that show the past of Syria's new president? Does it hurt that much?

 

[Abdulaziz]

If you say some of the statements released by the regional countries it tells you why Israel has gone rogue and the US lost control of them in the last 3-4 days. This is a stray pitbull roaming the street it will bit both friend and foe.. Completely rogue nation

This is the statement released by the turkish vice president

Turkish Vice President: Israel's attacks on Syria pose a clear threat not only to Syria's sovereignty but also to the stability of our region

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The US reined them in tonight but it was after refusing them for days and embarrasing them

 

[Nevsky]

Good stuff.

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[Abdulaziz]

Old articles that show the past of Syria's new president? Does it hurt that much?

You and that fool Persian guy are from a bygone era.. This AQ and that AQ all that is from the war on terror era which is gone now.. Nobody gives shxt about that nowadays you can post trillion of such articles it won´t change the reality on the ground

 

[Abdulaziz]

Good stuff.

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Just a cheap talk nothing more... Empty discourse. Sharaa ignore them all and completed his task and achievied his objective.

He was never gonna allow a fake azz state within his country run by some buffoon drug captagon dealer.. This has actully improved his image amongst Syrians that this man will unit the country at all costs. Syria´s sovereignty stands solid and this even sends clear message to everyone.. Syria is 1

 

[Meengla]

If you say some of the statements released by the regional countries it tells you why Israel has gone rogue and the US lost control of them in the last 3-4 days. This is a stray pitbull roaming the street it will bit both friend and foe.. Completely rogue nation

Yes, indeed a rogue nation. Israel may have a role in American strategic goals in the region but Israel overshoots, thus dragging America into the Middle East quagmires at the expense of America's own global interests. The top priority for America is China but we rarely hear about the 'pivot' to Indo Pacific or what the QUAD is doing or even about the Chinese consolidating its gains in the South China Sea.
A point may come, if the region gets into another war where even the Americans would reign in this 'pitbull roaming the street'. There is so much Americans can do because they have global interests.
However, it is not unfair to say: RIP to Syria.

 

[Abdulaziz]

Yes, indeed a rogue nation. Israel may have a role in American strategic goals in the region but Israel overshoots, thus dragging America into the Middle East quagmires at the expense of America's own global interests. The top priority for America is China but we rarely hear about the 'pivot' to Indo Pacific or what the QUAD is doing or even about the Chinese consolidating its gains in the South China Sea.
A point may come, if the region gets into another war where even the Americans would reign in this 'pitbull roaming the street'. There is so much Americans can do because they have global interests.
However, it is not unfair to say: RIP to Syria.

What? Syria has actully emerged stronger here and regained that region into the state. All these who hoped for Syria to divide hopes has vanished

 

[Haz]

Wow,calling out salafi extremists is now "hatred for islam"? You dislike Putin,it's automatically hatred for Christianity?

Also

War crimes of al-Nusra (2012–2016)​

Under al-Shara'a's leadership, al-Nusra Front and Jabhat Fateh al-Sham perpetrated a series of war crimes, suicide bombings, forced conversions, ethnic cleansing and sectarian massacres against Syria's Christian, Alawite, Shia and Druze minorities. These included the January 2012 al-Midan bombing, which killed 26 people and wounded 63.The Saudi state-owned Al Arabiya news network claimed that al-Nusra's leadership denounced the attack, asserting that the actions of the attackers were in contradiction to the organization's policy. Al-Nusra was also suspected of carrying out the 10 May 2012 Damascus bombings killing 55 people and injuring over 400,and the February 2013 Damascus bombings which killed 83 people, most of them civilians and children, and were condemned by the Syrian opposition.

In June 2013 al-Nusra claimed the "storming and cleansing of Hatla" during which 30 to 60 Shia civilians were killed as part of a wider campaign of sectarian cleansing in the Deir ez-Zor Governorate.

On 12 May 2016, rebels led by al-Nusra Front massacred 42 civilians and seven NDF militiamen while kidnapping up to 70 people after taking control of the Alawite village of Zara'a in Southern Hama

Al-Nusra was also behind suicide bombings in Lebanon directed against Alawites and Shia populations, including the 2015 Tripoli, Lebanon bombings



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Nah man,zero extremism..oh wait

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LOL point to some actual law thats been announced by the government, as in being enacted NOW, official policy by the government, not some BS screen grabs from who knows when and could easily be doctored, and some BS anecdotal and unsubstantiated stories. Show me actual proof of the new government instituting these draconian laws you are soo afraid of for your family in Greece.

Don't give me BS of some random shit from years ago, or use the action of some bad individual actors when the government is literally still just a collection of militias that is barely 6months old, as being an indication that they are instituting this dystopian nightmare rulership you're fantasizing about. Please show me where has the government officially laid out those policies. If you can't, then yes, you are being Islamophobic, because you are using you're predisposed hatred and bias against Islam and Muslims to project the literal worst outcome possible your fantasy can conjure up. Keep that shit to yourself, its literally none of your business, just like however Greece chooses to govern its business is none of mine.

 

[Abdulaziz]

Look this statement from the European union even they are baffled..

 

[Foinikas]

You and that fool Persian guy are from a bygone era.. This AQ and that AQ all that is from the war on terror era which is gone now.. Nobody gives shxt about that nowadays you can post trillion of such articles it won´t change the reality on the ground

But they themselves brag about it! It's their own history!

Dude,are you in denial? HTS was Nusra which was AQ which was black caliphate.

So many of the groups involved in what's now the Syrian government,were actual radical groups and hardline gangs.

What do you mean nobody cares nowadays,lol!!! They just took power. Doesn't change what they were and still are. The only difference is that now they rule the country.

Just like the Taliban. They were backwards barbarian radicals. And now they're backwards barbarian radicals who rule a country.

 

[Abdulaziz]

But they themselves brag about it! It's their own history!

Dude,are you in denial? HTS was Nusra which was AQ which was black caliphate.

So many of the groups involved in what's now the Syrian government,were actual radical groups and hardline gangs.

What do you mean nobody cares nowadays,lol!!! They just took power. Doesn't change what they were and still are. The only difference is that now they rule the country.

Just like the Taliban. They were backwards barbarian radicals. And now they're backwards barbarian radicals who rule a country.

They broke off from them long time ago. Hence it is like beating a dead horse if you say it a trillion times it won´t change anyones view on them or the political landscape of today.

You will just dry your throat and waste your time

 

[hyperman]

Wow,calling out salafi extremists is now "hatred for islam"? You dislike Putin,it's automatically hatred for Christianity?

Also

War crimes of al-Nusra (2012–2016)​

Under al-Shara'a's leadership, al-Nusra Front and Jabhat Fateh al-Sham perpetrated a series of war crimes, suicide bombings, forced conversions, ethnic cleansing and sectarian massacres against Syria's Christian, Alawite, Shia and Druze minorities. These included the January 2012 al-Midan bombing, which killed 26 people and wounded 63.The Saudi state-owned Al Arabiya news network claimed that al-Nusra's leadership denounced the attack, asserting that the actions of the attackers were in contradiction to the organization's policy. Al-Nusra was also suspected of carrying out the 10 May 2012 Damascus bombings killing 55 people and injuring over 400,and the February 2013 Damascus bombings which killed 83 people, most of them civilians and children, and were condemned by the Syrian opposition.

In June 2013 al-Nusra claimed the "storming and cleansing of Hatla" during which 30 to 60 Shia civilians were killed as part of a wider campaign of sectarian cleansing in the Deir ez-Zor Governorate.

On 12 May 2016, rebels led by al-Nusra Front massacred 42 civilians and seven NDF militiamen while kidnapping up to 70 people after taking control of the Alawite village of Zara'a in Southern Hama

Al-Nusra was also behind suicide bombings in Lebanon directed against Alawites and Shia populations, including the 2015 Tripoli, Lebanon bombings



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your pic of that girl is fake. The girl herself came out in defense of Jolani. She asked him for a picture and he asked her to put a hood on if she wanted a picture with him, as he didn't want to harm his image. She didn't mind, and compared it to meeting an elder and having a headscarf on. This is the problem with screenshots and no backstory or attention to details afterwards that come out. Its good propaganda, but when you look closely it gets debunked.

 

[hussain0216]

Old articles that show the past of Syria's new president? Does it hurt that much?

Buddy, it doesn't matter any more

Look at the extremism of the Zionists or the west supporting them

After that type of extremism who cares who jolani it AQ or anyone


You actually might be sensible to be extreme to take on enemies in a world where international law is a joke

 

[Foinikas]

Show me actual proof of the new government instituting these draconian laws you are soo afraid of for your family in Greece.

Because it doesn't affect me directly,I should not care about the communities of Christians in Syria and/or the Shias there? I should not care? You're in USA and telling me,while I'm in the region,that I should not care,when there's countless masses of immigrants and refugees arriving every week?

You think what happens in Syria doesn't affect us here geopolitically and culturally?

Stop acting like the only "entitled" to care about Syria.

Don't give me BS of some random shit from years ago, or use the action of some bad individual actors when the government is literally still just a collection of militias that is barely 6months old, as being an indication that they are instituting this dystopian nightmare rulership you're fantasizing about. Please show me where has the government officially laid out those policies.

Awww some bad actors? But when it was about SAA's misconduct,your first line was "Assad gills the peoples! Assad iz bombs the tzildrans!" You guys going nuts about Assad,wouldn't go around saying "it was just a few bad eggs",you'd blame everyone in the SAA,in the government,in the Sunnah,Shia,Christian clergy,everyone.

Now you're denying Jolani's past as a warlord and terrorist leader and you're excusing him by saying "random shit from years ago" and "action of some bad individual actors".

You should be ashamed. Really. You're defending the scum of humanity. While living of course,in America,enjoying life there. You wanted change? Ok. Yes,change. But don't put extremist salafis in power and then find all kinds of excuses and praise them. That's not a change for good. That's a disaster. Syria is going to become a Muslim Brotherhood-run dictatorship.

If you can't, then yes, you are being Islamophobic, because you are using you're predisposed hatred and bias against Islam and Muslims to project the literal worst outcome possible your fantasy can conjure up

How the f is criticizing Jolani's government...."islamophobia"? How is it "biast against Islam and Muslims",what are you even babbling about? Did you see me talk trash about Egypt? Jordan? Magherb,Al Jazair w kul al imarat? Weyn al i"slamophobia" khara? You see me call out Bosnia on it?

Keep that shit to yourself, its literally none of your business, just like however Greece chooses to govern its business is none of mine.

And did the Syrians GET TO CHOOSE WHO GOVERNS THEM? Or is that none of their buiseness either?

Because last time I checked,Jolani took power and said he'd keep it for 6 months and then said for at least 4-5 years.