Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[battalion25]

No thanks, we dont want Saddam either. Hard pass.

The funny thing is Shia celebrated worldwide after Saddam´s death for them he was their Hitler and Pharoah

Hack probably Saddam is one of the greatest Shia villian and I would say the greatest according to many Shia I have meet. He is second to Muaywia

 

[ResurgentIran2]

How about someone who unties a population through peace rather than war and how about we actually let people decide what they wish through a referendum how about we don’t have anymore sisi saddam mbs edrogan and so on people want change it’s the people who decide to stay in power indefinitely are the issues

Well that sounds nice, albeit a bit naive.
No offense, its just not the kind of world we live in.

 

[Haz]

A Saddam type is exactly what Syria needs. Only one that is better at managing the state and not being at war with its own ethnic and religious minorities.
Thats my genuine opinion.

Ya don't care if that is you're genuine opinion, we gave that whole secular strongman dictatorship experiment a really good run, for 5 decades in fact, and we didn't end up liking it. That's absolutely not what we need or want, being a Sunni wont change anything.

Hopefully Iran can get its own secular brutal strongman soon, maybe it will suit you guys, who knows, but we're past that experiment.

 

[battalion25]

How about someone who unties a population through peace rather than war and how about we actually let people decide what they wish through a referendum how about we don’t have anymore sisi saddam mbs edrogan and so on people want change it’s the people who decide to stay in power indefinitely are the issues

Most of the great leaders were the expansionists they were completely different animals alltogether sub-nallah. They use to think different all together and they had a predatory mindset. But they had an alligance or a pledge to spread his word and deen in return Allah increased them in wealth and success. They had a good sweat deal going with Allah.

The Last expanionist died in 1707.. It was Aurangzeb the great.. Which means the expanionist era ended 3 centuries ago.

Without them none of us would have been muslim imagine the amount of resources in monetary sense and effort, manpower and blood these bastards have used. People don´t realize it but it was a great undertaking..

No mother has ever given birth to an expansionist since Aurangzab

 

[Shags101]

Well that sounds nice, albeit a bit naive.
No offense, its just not the kind of world we live in.

I don’t disagree just saying we rid one bad guy for another other countries in the world have been able to do it but we are stuck in a endless cycle so yeah rather hope for the best for people instead of saying let’s just have our bad guy not their bad guy on top

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Ya don't care if that is you're genuine opinion, we gave that whole secular strongman dictatorship experiment a really good run, for 5 decades in fact, and we didn't end up liking it. That's absolutely not what we need or want, being a Sunni wont change anything.

Hopefully Iran can get its own secular brutal strongman soon, maybe it will suit you guys, who knows, but we're past that experiment.

No one is hoping or waiting for that. Syrians, Iranians, all of us need elections and broad participation to elect (not select) responsible parties and figures who care about their people and country. No need for dictators, separatists, oligarchs and warlords.

Afghanistan saw communist dictators, then corrupt western backed oligarchs and warlords, now they're back to 0, cavemen islamists in power (I know they've secret lovers here).

No need for western style secularism, but also no need for Islamist figures who make some of the members here over-excited. In my opinion Syrians are moderate and smart and will shatter the dreams of certain extremists. Step by step they need to delete the "moustache-less beards" and that will take a lot of effort and time (they will resist hard). I wish them good luck, especially the young and educated people because they're the future there, not the central-asian uzbeks and chechens.

 

[Haz]

And killed all the patients in the Suweida national hospital, what a great nation this Jolani guy is building.
You can add the "x" if you wanna watch this, its +18.

https://com/RojavaNetwork/status/1945523415630197248

Can you even understand anything that he's saying or any of the context, like at all? The guy recording is not a Druze, he's clearly a Sunni and not speaking with the southern accent, and is clearly in distress or pain.

This looks like a government personnel that just entered the recently captured hospital, filled with dead people. Some of them are clearly uniform government military fighters. And given the tone the camera man, that of distress and anguish, rather than joy or excitement, these are likely government fighters or bedouin allies that have been slaughtered, not their Druze enemies. We don't know the condition in which they died or why, but I'd guess some were injured/captured and brought here and later killed, or maybe its something else entirely. The one thing that is highly unlikely, is that these are Druze. Before you go making tall claims, verify the accuracy of your information.

 

[Shags101]

Most of the great leaders were the expansionists they were completely different animals alltogether sub-nallah. They use to think different all together and they had a predatory mindset. But they had an alligance or a pledge to spread his word and deen in return Allah increased them in wealth and success. They had a good sweat deal going with Allah.

The Last expanionist died in 1707.. It was Aurangzeb the great.. Which means the expanionist era ended 3 centuries ago.

Without them none of us would have been muslim imagine the amount of resources in monetary sense and effort, manpower and blood these bastards have used. People don´t realize it but it was a great undertaking..

No mother has ever given birth to an expansionist since Aurangzab

Let’s live in the present not the past let’s unite instead of conquering land subjugation of entire populations let’s work to build countries that will stand on their own two feet

 

[ResurgentIran2]

No one is hoping or waiting for that. Syrians, Iranians, all of us need elections and broad participation to elect (not select) responsible parties and figures who care about their people and country. No need for dictators, oligarchs and warlords.

Afghanistan saw communist dictators, then corrupt western backed oligarchs and warlords, now they're back to 0, cavemen islamists in power (I know they've secret lovers here).

No need for western style secularism, but also no need for Islamist figures who make some of the members here over-excited. In my opinion Syrians are moderate and smart and will shatter the dreams of certain extremists. Step by step they need to delete the moustache-less bears and that will take a lot of effort and time, I wish them good luck, especially the young and educated people because they're the future there, not the central-asian uzbeks and chechens.

I agree in principle. I do however think that in the mean time a nationalist and a strongman needs to keep the country unified.
When Israel dissolves as a state (which is not a matter of if, but of when), all neughboring states should reform and transform to more participatory politics and democratic states.

 

[battalion25]

No one is hoping or waiting for that. Syrians, Iranians, all of us need elections and broad participation to elect (not select) responsible parties and figures who care about their people and country. No need for dictators, oligarchs and warlords.

Afghanistan saw communist dictators, then corrupt western backed oligarchs and warlords, now they're back to 0, cavemen islamists in power (I know they've secret lovers here).

No need for western style secularism, but also no need for Islamist figures who make some of the members here over-excited. In my opinion Syrians are moderate and smart and will shatter the dreams of certain extremists. Step by step they need to delete the "moustache-less beards" and that will take a lot of effort and time (they will resist hard). I wish them good luck, especially the young and educated people because they're the future there, not the central-asian uzbeks and chechens.

You guys don´t even look at the mirror..

Is there a bigger cavemen then Iran´s mullahs with the large female garments.. The fact that you added Islamists makes me realize you are actully not Muslim.

But who is more backyard then the Mullah´s who don´t even have an airforce and AD in this modern era atleast the afghans were in war with 2 superpower for 40 years hence they have an excuse.

All your leaders killed in the span of 24 hours nothing to protect them.

And I would bet they will modernize before you

 

[Foinikas]

I don't care if they were classified as "terrorists", why the hell do you use that like it has any meaning?

Dude...

Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) was a Sunni Islamist political organisation and paramilitary group involved in the Syrian civil war. It was formed on 28 January 2017 as a merger of several armed groups: Jaysh al-Ahrar (an Ahrar al-Sham faction), Jabhat Fateh al-Sham (JFS), Ansar al-Din Front, Jaysh al-Sunna, Liwa al-Haqq and the Nour al-Din al-Zenki Movement. The unification process was held under the initiative of Abu Jaber Sheikh, an Islamist militant commander who had been the second emir of Ahrar al-Sham. HTS, along with other Syrian opposition groups, launched an offensive that led to the fall of the Assad regime on 8 December 2024.

One by one the groups that formed HTS:

Nour ed-din Zenki



Ansar ad-Din Front


The most notorious one


Jaysh As-Sunna


And Liwa al-Haqq



The scum of humanity. Textbook jihadis. We're talking about criminals here. And you cheer for them and say "I don't care".

 

[battalion25]

I agree in principle. I do however think that in the mean time a nationalist and a strongman needs to keep the country unified.
When Israel dissolves as a state (which is not a matter of if, but of when), all neughboring states should reform and transform to more participatory politics and democratic states.

I liked the first of half of your message and the second part about the democracy not so much.. It comes off western wannabe´´ish

 

[hussain0216]

Dude...

Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) was a Sunni Islamist political organisation and paramilitary group involved in the Syrian civil war. It was formed on 28 January 2017 as a merger of several armed groups: Jaysh al-Ahrar (an Ahrar al-Sham faction), Jabhat Fateh al-Sham (JFS), Ansar al-Din Front, Jaysh al-Sunna, Liwa al-Haqq and the Nour al-Din al-Zenki Movement. The unification process was held under the initiative of Abu Jaber Sheikh, an Islamist militant commander who had been the second emir of Ahrar al-Sham. HTS, along with other Syrian opposition groups, launched an offensive that led to the fall of the Assad regime on 8 December 2024.

One by one the groups that formed HTS:

Nour ed-din Zenki

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Ansar ad-Din Front


The most notorious one


Jaysh As-Sunna
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And Liwa al-Haqq

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The scum of humanity. Textbook jihadis. We're talking about criminals here. And you cheer for them and say "I don't care".

The time for caring is over

How are these guys even close to the Zionists butchers killing children waiting for food and water, backed by the west?

If the west can be that evil and that brutal, why point fingers at these guys

Let the middle east find it's way so it can find balance, what we need is a removal of the colonial rump states that we lre set up in the last century for this very reason

 

[Bharatah]

The most shocking thing is that people (still) try to defend Syria's "new government" in the face of all this humiliation. These guys are UN-registered terrorists... HTS is not a separate organization, but simply a new acronym for ISIS/Al-Qaeda. These guys should be removed from the government immediately, but since they are CIA/MOSSAD proxies, they've already been placed there to justify constant war. The result is there: in six months, Syria has been more humiliated than in years under Assad.

 

[Foinikas]

No wonder you have such hatred for Muslims in Syria, if Assad is your preferred ruler. Honestly you're being a despicable troll right now if this is the narrative you're pushing for, the fact that you have no awareness for the amount of misery he's caused, or you are deliberately playing ignorant, or you just don't care how bad it was for us because you have such hatred for Islam and Muslims is truly shocking.

Again,you're talking out of your rear. If people were a bit conservative,as you said,they had no problem. There were lots of women wearing abayas or with hijabs covering the hair entire. There were people of conservative ideologies. Don't give me bullshit by playing the expert. IF you were against the regime,they'd grab you. You could what you want except challenge the regime. There were a lot of problems,but you're describing it like some terrible place were you couldn't even say a word or live like a human. It wasn't Taliban Afghanistan and it wasn't even Saddam's Iraq.

But...if you're definition of "a bit conservative" is Muslim Brotherhood radicals praising controversial if not outright criminal salafis from other countries....then our definitions are pretty darn different.