Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[Abdulaziz]

Dude...

Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) was a Sunni Islamist political organisation and paramilitary group involved in the Syrian civil war. It was formed on 28 January 2017 as a merger of several armed groups: Jaysh al-Ahrar (an Ahrar al-Sham faction), Jabhat Fateh al-Sham (JFS), Ansar al-Din Front, Jaysh al-Sunna, Liwa al-Haqq and the Nour al-Din al-Zenki Movement. The unification process was held under the initiative of Abu Jaber Sheikh, an Islamist militant commander who had been the second emir of Ahrar al-Sham. HTS, along with other Syrian opposition groups, launched an offensive that led to the fall of the Assad regime on 8 December 2024.

One by one the groups that formed HTS:

Nour ed-din Zenki

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Ansar ad-Din Front


The most notorious one


Jaysh As-Sunna
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And Liwa al-Haqq

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The scum of humanity. Textbook jihadis. We're talking about criminals here. And you cheer for them and say "I don't care".

This is so boring talking points.. The HEY he or she was AQ or what. Very boring and tiring. It goes nowhere.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

You guys don´t even look at the mirror..

Is there a bigger cavemen then Iran´s mullahs with the large female garments.. The fact that you added Islamists makes me realize you are actully not Muslim.

But who is more backyard then the Mullah´s who don´t even have an airforce and AD in this modern era atleast the afghans were in war with 2 superpower 40 years hence they have an excuse.

And I would bet they will modernize before you

Bro, don't compare our mullahs to criminals of isis and al-qaeda and taliban. Yeah they made a lot of stupid mistakes, but they're not cavemen.
We cloned animals (while even Christians were saying it's haram!), 70% of our engineers are women.
I'm Iranian above anything and I don't reject my Shia Identity, it's a mixed together and my country is part of East and Asia.

Backward is not related to what systems you have or how rich you're, that's how bedouin camel-drivers think. It's about Creativity, Identity, Independence, Governance, Institutions, Civilizational depth. If you have all of these, be sure some powers will try to block you, prevent you from all sorts of progress.

If you bow to them or become their client, they will leave you alone and sell you their items.

Taliban cavemen need to see Afghan women as human and welcome back their 15 million refugees first. After 30-40 years, they can start to move forward step by step.

 

[Foinikas]

This is so boring talking points.. The HEY he or she was AQ or what. Very boring and tiring. It goes nowhere.

So when you go to apply for a job and someone asks for your bio,you respond:

"Bah,you're so boring,what do you need that for"?

 

[Shags101]

This is so boring talking points.. The HEY he or she was AQ or what. Very boring and tiring. It goes nowhere.

Not going to lie I may not agree with you but I do like boondocks was annoyed when it got cancelled

 

[Shags101]

So when you go to apply for a job and someone asks for your bio,you respond:

"Bah,you're so boring,what do you need that for"?

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Yeah looks like Kirk is doing something he shouldn’t be doing ok last joke of the day

 

[Haz]

Dude...

Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) was a Sunni Islamist political organisation and paramilitary group involved in the Syrian civil war. It was formed on 28 January 2017 as a merger of several armed groups: Jaysh al-Ahrar (an Ahrar al-Sham faction), Jabhat Fateh al-Sham (JFS), Ansar al-Din Front, Jaysh al-Sunna, Liwa al-Haqq and the Nour al-Din al-Zenki Movement. The unification process was held under the initiative of Abu Jaber Sheikh, an Islamist militant commander who had been the second emir of Ahrar al-Sham. HTS, along with other Syrian opposition groups, launched an offensive that led to the fall of the Assad regime on 8 December 2024.

One by one the groups that formed HTS:

Nour ed-din Zenki

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Ansar ad-Din Front


The most notorious one


Jaysh As-Sunna
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And Liwa al-Haqq

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The scum of humanity. Textbook jihadis. We're talking about criminals here. And you cheer for them and say "I don't care".

No, I genuinely don't care what some factions in the past have done. All sides have committed horrible crimes in the long and brutal civil war, no one is innocent. But since they consolidated power in Idlib and became more professionalized, and began learning administration duties and actual civilian governance rather than just fighting all the time, they evolved and restructured many times over. The current organization today is not the same as the component of its many groups from the past. I'm more than willing to be patient and give them leeway to see how they administer state affairs and use the government powers in the middle term, and there is nothing in the current set of official policies or laws that scare the shit out of me and point to the fear mongering, fantastical concoctions you love to jump to immediately.

Again, its our business, you don't like it, fine, don't go to Syria. I promise, we won't force whatever government we get on your or Greece. Stop the BS straw manning like this is really personally going to impact you in any way. If they turn out too extreme for us in the future when we finally have a stable government, we'll revolt and get something different. But that's our decision and its our destiny, its not yours to make, so bud off. Its really that simple.

 

[Abdulaziz]

Your Mullahs are internationally recognized terrorists who walk around with female garments. THey have not made any advancement. HTS is actully not blacklisted and just invited to join the free world.

All your leaders got killed without Airforce or AD in this modern era is criminal atleast IEA had 40 years of war and has an excuse.

Syria that got out of 15 years of war just months ago has somewhat more deterence then you becasue they are more thuggish and don´t care about car crashes.

What have you achieved if you don´t even ha an air force and AD.. You exist still in the 80s.

Don´t lie to yourself to feel good

Here is what I posted earlier today regarding these Iranian elements talking about TERROR That is a bygone era nobody hangs on that shxt. Besides you talking about people recognized worldwide, no blacklist, no sanctions etc etc. Invited to be part of the free world.

To be fairly honest the Westerners are actully past that shxt but you will be surprised to know that Hezbollah elements and their allies are the one spreading waste of time stuff like AQ or this and that or beards.. While HTS is not listed in the UN blacklist but Hezbollah is and all the other Iranian militias including IRGC and sometimes you wonder where are these peoples brains and do they even have one.

These ppl are unfortunately dumb and have room temperature IQ. I cringe sometimes when I see what they post

 

[Foinikas]

No, I genuinely don't care what some factions in the past have done.

After that comment,it's futile trying to talk with you.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Your Mullahs are internationally recognized terrorists who walk around with female garments. THey have not made any advancement. HTS is actully blacklisted and just invited to join the free world.

All your leaders got killed without Airforce or AD in this modern era is criminal atleast IEA had 40 years of war and has an excuse.

What have you achieved if you don´t even ha an air force and AD.. You exist still in the 80s.

Don´t lie to yourself to feel good

You speak the zionist language ("internationally recognized terrorists", "free world") but you're a HTS supporter. You've to sort out your thoughts.

I'm not surprised to see certain zionist influences in your arguments, aligning "Al-Qaeda, freedom, unlisting from terrorism".

We saw that with MEK group, they got unlisted, they're promoted as opposition who want to liberate and bring democracy to Iran, accoding to west.

I already replied to the rest of your comments in my previous posts here.

 

[Foinikas]

You speak the zionist language ("internationally recognized terrorists", "free world") but you're a HTS supporter. You've to sort out your thoughts.

I'm not surprised to see certain zionist influences in your arguments, aligning "Al-Qaeda, freedom, unlisting from terrorism".

We saw that with MEK group, they got unlisted, they're promoted as opposition who want to liberate and bring democracy to Iran, accoding to west.

I already replied to the rest of your comments in my previous posts here.

See how they're like? They cheer for Salafi radicals and find no evil in criminal figures,but if you talk about Shias? Ooooh the haram!

 

[Haz]

Again,you're talking out of your rear. If people were a bit conservative,as you said,they had no problem. There were lots of women wearing abayas or with hijabs covering the hair entire. There were people of conservative ideologies. Don't give me bullshit by playing the expert. IF you were against the regime,they'd grab you. You could what you want except challenge the regime. There were a lot of problems,but you're describing it like some terrible place were you couldn't even say a word or live like a human. It wasn't Taliban Afghanistan and it wasn't even Saddam's Iraq.

But...if you're definition of "a bit conservative" is Muslim Brotherhood radicals praising controversial if not outright criminal salafis from other countries....then our definitions are pretty darn different.

First off, how is literally having no ability to speak out at all against the oppressive regime thats been suffocating and tormenting you for decades is ok? On what planet is that ok? And the reason why conservatives or even just moderately religious people were targeted the most is because they are the ones who were most likely to not put up with the injustice and might actually be brave enough to demonstrate or speak out or even fight against it. Those two things are directly correlated, thats why they were oppressed and targeted and their families the most. And those tended to be overwhelmingly Sunnis.

And no, MB is not extreme for Muslim countries, I don't consider them so, take your BS European moral frame work and keep it in Greece. Muslims and middle eastern countries don't need to conform to your values or world views. For Syrians MB would fine, and is more moderate than HTS actually. There are far more strict regimes like in Iran, Saudi or Afghanistan than MB would be. We don't need any Western approval on how to live our lives or organize our societies. Again, its not up to you. Get it through your thick skull. Syrians will decide, this does not concern or impact you what so ever.

 

[Foinikas]

And no, MB is not extreme for Muslim countries, I don't consider them so,

Lol ok,nothing more to say then. Take care.

 

[Foinikas]

Get it through your thick skull. Syrians will decide, this does not concern or impact you what so ever.

In March 2025, Ahmed al-Sharaa ratified an interim constitution for the transitional period, establishing Syria as a presidential republic without a prime minister and setting a five-year transition period.

Looks like Syrians don't get to decide either

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

See how they're like? They cheer for Salafi radicals and find no evil in criminal figures,but if you talk about Shias? Ooooh the haram!

Bro I know these folks, believe me they're very religious when it comes to:
- slaughtering a baby-goat or lamb during eid-ul-adha
- saying Shia believe Ali is God
- doing jihad against all sorts of groups who are militarily not strong (yezidis, other minorities), blowing up peope there, but never in their own zionist led countries (Saudi, Qatar, Morocco etc.)
- spending thousands to do Haj so that Bin-Salman gets milked afterward by US and Israel.
- spending thousands to do Haj, while people in their society have no money for food or health-care
- Shooting innocent people in west, never fighting IDF.
- Staying silence during genocide in Gaza, or assisting genocide passively, while catholics, Irish, Spanish, Communists and other leftists and humanists risk their jobs and future to stop these warcrimes.

I went to anti-war demonstrations supporting Palestinians and Iranians. From the 830000 muslims, not even 0,01% participated (I think less). It was in The Hague, where ICC is located near the heart of muslim community in Netherlands.

But when it's eid ul-adha, I see them walking without mustache, with beards, busy streets, meanwhile their kings and administrations support Israel, no any demonstrations against them, not here, also not in their ancestral country.

It's an empty shell bro and tbh I'm tired of this fake theater.

When it comes to discussions, I tell it in their face always, Catholics have more honour and deeper morality, probably their religion and culture has more depth for catholics than Islam has for majority of 2 billion Muslims.

 

[Foinikas]

Staying silence during genocide in Gaza, or assisting genocide passively, while catholics, Irish, Spanish, Communists and other leftists and humanists risk their jobs and future to stop these warcrimes.

You see,it's more importat to overthrow Assad and kick "Persian invaders out Syria",than trying to stop a genocide in Gaza. But of course,they will support every kind of MB and talk of "islamophobia" if you give them a reality check on who they support.