Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Agreed but blaming one side for the problem and not taking into account the fascist regime who openly talks about converting 160 million Muslims to Hindus and conveniently ignoring the timing of such military actions (Elections) and feeding the population complete BS propaganda (F16 shot down to the destruction of Karachi port) does not inspire much confidence in the nation that elects and believes in such fools.

Narrative is one thing but feeding population propaganda and nationalistic/ religious poison will never lead to improvement of the situation...It will only lead to more wars and destructions.

India under BJP acts more like a wife who left home and is staying with her mother and is refusing to talk and sit down and sort out issues....until India comes down its high horse we have no hope.
Sure. And I am confident that an Indian perspective can paint a similarly dire situation in Pakistan (cue: history books, Baluchistan, Osama, media, terrorists doing janaza, yada yada yada).

For me, this constant back and forth gives us nothing. It is exhausting and distracts the population from "real issues". The real issues of development, being technology pioneers, being at peace.

And I understand that the "powers that be" have a vested interest is status-quo/keeping the issue on simmer if not burning. However, the onus is on population of both countries to tone down the noise and focus on individual effort (excellence) which hopefully will translate to national growth (power).

I come to a forum like this (and also a similar Indian forum - though I don't have a first hand experience/not a member) and I find 50-80% is an echo chamber. Some posts are balanced/good but mostly are trolling at best and xenophobic at worse.

My reason of joining this forum and posting is to interact with people who want to exchange ideas/info not who troll for the fun of it. Life's too short for that...
 
Sure. And I am confident that an Indian perspective can paint a similarly dire situation in Pakistan (cue: history books, Baluchistan, Osama, media, terrorists doing janaza, yada yada yada).

For me, this constant back and forth gives us nothing. It is exhausting and distracts the population from "real issues". The real issues of development, being technology pioneers, being at peace.

And I understand that the "powers that be" have a vested interest is status-quo/keeping the issue on simmer if not burning. However, the onus is on population of both countries to tone down the noise and focus on individual effort (excellence) which hopefully will translate to national growth (power).

I come to a forum like this (and also a similar Indian forum - though I don't have a first hand experience/not a member) and I find 50-80% is an echo chamber. Some posts are balanced/good but mostly are trolling at best and xenophobic at worse.

My reason of joining this forum and posting is to interact with people who want to exchange ideas/info not who troll for the fun of it. Life's too short for that...
Agree and you have my respect.
 
Sure. And I am confident that an Indian perspective can paint a similarly dire situation in Pakistan (cue: history books, Baluchistan, Osama, media, terrorists doing janaza, yada yada yada).

For me, this constant back and forth gives us nothing. It is exhausting and distracts the population from "real issues". The real issues of development, being technology pioneers, being at peace.

And I understand that the "powers that be" have a vested interest is status-quo/keeping the issue on simmer if not burning. However, the onus is on population of both countries to tone down the noise and focus on individual effort (excellence) which hopefully will translate to national growth (power).

I come to a forum like this (and also a similar Indian forum - though I don't have a first hand experience/not a member) and I find 50-80% is an echo chamber. Some posts are balanced/good but mostly are trolling at best and xenophobic at worse.

My reason of joining this forum and posting is to interact with people who want to exchange ideas/info not who troll for the fun of it. Life's too short for that...
absolute bonkers..

too late now, Pak, now not in the mood of forget-forgive, unless, China tames leadership down!

this is only sand bagging, no sincerity.
 
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I am starting to belive that kill claims may have been understated.

What may have happened is that PAF wanted to be very stringent about the claims it was making and not exaggerate so no evidence on radar or tracking and we may have initially discounted some claims from our pilots, as more evidence emerges it really is starting to seem that some pilot. kill claims PAF may have discounted appear to have been true.

I was thinking we shot down 3-4

I am getting convinced by this news and CAS/Alan Warnes that real tally was 7+
Bhai...4 jets were eventually confirmed by multiple videos/pics from indian population side without question....

though there are still Indians who do not believe it and asking for evidence

and alan warnes stating openly that 4 were rafales were shot down........that's cherry on the top.....and eventually the intelligence will leak or confirm it as well.....just give it time.

4 Rafales shot down in one night....is hell of a trauma.......trauma for generations.......no wonder bhindians are preparing for next round.....they want blood......
 
Bharat is now roping in Russia to pacify the China-Pak relationship. Looks like they're ready to go to any length to wage another round against Pakistan. I'm pretty sure the Pak Deep State is getting ready too....


India's Foreign Policy hits RIC (Russia, India, China) Reality

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West has given them over $300 Billion in direct investment since early 90s to do the dirty work. they are asking India for action or forget more investments or even threatening to pull out investments..
they will comply to their masters
 
West has given them over $300 Billion in direct investment since early 90s to do the dirty work. they are asking India for action or forget more investments or even threatening to pull out investments..
they will comply to their masters

They promised the joos/west they would dominate Pakistan and China by now back in 2000 :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

They sold them a big fat LIE and now they are all starting to realise that India were playing them for a fool and using them to get access to their markets.

It is an absolutely travesty, Pakistan did so much for the west in 2 wars, both times on the front lines, sacrificed their economy for their wars. Thrown aside like they were nothing.
 
This was back in 2016. This is why Japanese were cold to us until recently. They were radicalizing them into hating Pakistan.

Imagine all the other shit they must have been talking to to others. Which is why Modi kept going on about isolating Pakistan. What a bunch a**holes.

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I am starting to belive that kill claims may have been understated.

What may have happened is that PAF wanted to be very stringent about the claims it was making and not exaggerate so no evidence on radar or tracking and we may have initially discounted some claims from our pilots, as more evidence emerges it really is starting to seem that some pilot. kill claims PAF may have discounted appear to have been true.

I was thinking we shot down 3-4

I am getting convinced by this news and CAS/Alan Warnes that real tally was 7+
Where is @TheTallGuy ....he was the first one who broke this news....on 7th May
 

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