Trump said five Indian Jets were shot down

Uncle dr victor gao is next level trol lol he trolls India like no one does. Even Pakistanís cannot.
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So even if we go with your version of events, doesn’t change the fact that India hit your training infrastructure across the border, and will do it again if needed. Can you say you have created a deterrence? it clearly didn’t stop us, and it won’t stop us next time either. If the cost of creating this new normal is losing 10 planes due to tactical mistakes, so be it. Pretty sure folks at your GHQ are just hoping some nutjob doesn’t screw things up again and force another response.
 
vasanthm said:
So even if we go with your version of events, doesn’t change the fact that India hit your training infrastructure across the border, and will do it again if needed. Can you say you have created a deterrence? it clearly didn’t stop us, and it won’t stop us next time either. If the cost of creating this new normal is losing 10 planes due to tactical mistakes, so be it. Pretty sure folks at your GHQ are just hoping some nutjob doesn’t screw things up again and force another response.
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You hit a mosque, but we did not retaliate by attacking your places of worship or temples. It was us who showed maturity. We treated you fairly. We targeted your army and air force like honourable enemies would. But you showed cowardice by attacking our mosques — sacred places where children were studying.

There is a difference between an honourable enemy and a dishonourable one — and you proved to be the latter. You deserved to be punished, and now you’re facing the consequences. Look around: the international community is condemning and humiliating you.
You would have been treated less harshly if you did not attack our worship places. Thank you
 
vasanthm said:
Why would we bother hitting your military when the real issue has always been your non state actors? It’s not about mosques or your army, it’s about the terror infrastructure you deny publicly but protect privately. That’s what we target. If Pakistan wants to be seen as an 'honourable enemy,' start by dealing with your own proxies and face India directly if you’ve got a problem
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You attacked our places of worship, you bloody moron. Pakistan could have easily targeted your temples — especially those linked to terrorism, like the so-called BJP m, where Pakistan have solid proof that some of your temples are involved in terror activities.

But we didn’t. We know that there are ordinary, innocent people who pray there, even if a few terrorists hide among them. Pakistan refuses to stoop to your level. We will not kill innocent people in the name of revenge
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People talk about having or buying all these "stealth" platforms, countries dream of it. But the real question is, even if u get it, what is it for? What are the usual ongoing maintenance and upkeep costs to keep them running and flying. Will they stand all day during peacetime gathering rust ??
There is a huge cost to them, and if any maintenance is required, there will be huge contracts and payments to the OEM manufacturer who will do it and they won't let locals do it. A VERY VERY EXPENSIVE white elephant to have and keep. For a battle of few mins/hours? A decent AF can do pretty much same with other integrated stuff like what the PAF did. It seems an overkill at this time.

If they (usa) want to force india to "waste" its money (and empty its coffers into this endless money pit), we should be glad as it will tank their economy. Those americans will dry them in no time with even 1 squadron and pretty sure no "source-codes" will ever be given. India as a belligerent extremist nation will want to test them to destroy Pakistan when they get it, and leading to another war.......does the US want that again? Sure destroy the region then, create WW3.

The west in general (us and eu) is in decline, stagnant economies, filled with immigrants, loss of employments and shit life standards in general, is happening. Even worse is the rot in the population due to uber fast food gobbling, becoming obese gamers and social media psychos and mental health sufferers. Anxiety, Depression, and broken family system has already messed them up, covid19 further destroyed their societies. One more extreme push/shove and they collapse. So the only thing is left is to go gather money from those who still have some left. India is a poor country in itself and if it loses its "billions" to usa with all this shopping, so be it. The usa did it with the arabs recently with getting trillions from them already.
It won't end well for anyone to think that wars/conflicts won't spread.....once the flashpoints ignite, it may be a chain reaction and will consume everyone. Specially when restraints are off the next time and escalation is immediate.

PAF with its current J10C and JF17-B3 doesn't have much to worry about for a long while as the indians are just incompetent and stupid. They will always be afraid and wary of Pakistan now (militarily). If they thought that Pak was a weak state militarily and in defense, they got a rude awakening. India is on its way to implosion from within whether they like it or not, due to their own shit internal and external policies of the hindutva/rss/moditva etc
 
Wait for Uncle Trump next related statement..

Definitely he will add some more oil on fire....

It's becoming his regular topic after gap of few days ..
 
India is stuck in the middle of nowhere, they could have lay low and step by step achieving total self reliant indegious programs like tejas and AMCA even turbofan engine but because they were obsessed with this two front war b.s, they were always looking for stop gap, fancy toys, now again, the Indian are pulling their hair off looking for Su-57, F35, when you are running the country, project in this kind of mentality, things are not going to end well.
 
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PK781 said:
People talk about having or buying all these "stealth" platforms, countries dream of it. But the real question is, even if u get it, what is it for? What are the usual ongoing maintenance and upkeep costs to keep them running and flying. Will they stand all day during peacetime gathering rust ??
There is a huge cost to them, and if any maintenance is required, there will be huge contracts and payments to the OEM manufacturer who will do it and they won't let locals do it. A VERY VERY EXPENSIVE white elephant to have and keep. For a battle of few mins/hours? A decent AF can do pretty much same with other integrated stuff like what the PAF did. It seems an overkill at this time.

If they (usa) want to force india to "waste" its money (and empty its coffers into this endless money pit), we should be glad as it will tank their economy. Those americans will dry them in no time with even 1 squadron and pretty sure no "source-codes" will ever be given. India as a belligerent extremist nation will want to test them to destroy Pakistan when they get it, and leading to another war.......does the US want that again? Sure destroy the region then, create WW3.

The west in general (us and eu) is in decline, stagnant economies, filled with immigrants, loss of employments and shit life standards in general, is happening. Even worse is the rot in the population due to uber fast food gobbling, becoming obese gamers and social media psychos and mental health sufferers. Anxiety, Depression, and broken family system has already messed them up, covid19 further destroyed their societies. One more extreme push/shove and they collapse. So the only thing is left is to go gather money from those who still have some left. India is a poor country in itself and if it loses its "billions" to usa with all this shopping, so be it. The usa did it with the arabs recently with getting trillions from them already.
It won't end well for anyone to think that wars/conflicts won't spread.....once the flashpoints ignite, it may be a chain reaction and will consume everyone. Specially when restraints are off the next time and escalation is immediate.

PAF with its current J10C and JF17-B3 doesn't have much to worry about for a long while as the indians are just incompetent and stupid. They will always be afraid and wary of Pakistan now (militarily). If they thought that Pak was a weak state militarily and in defense, they got a rude awakening. India is on its way to implosion from within whether they like it or not, due to their own shit internal and external policies of the hindutva/rss/moditva etc
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You question the price of freedoms……..keeping our planes battle ready is the price of freedom. If you want to see what the cost is of not paying the price of freedom go speak with, Iran, Syria and India.

Ghana’s kheiyan gay pur …….

Kv
 
Mighty_Dragon_Strike said:
irony is, it is now, harder to know the 'actual count' of damaged/destroyed jets..

very convenient seeking act this!
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On May 8th, @TallGuy had said upto 14+ aircraft were impacted with 5 confirmed at that time. If they were Su30s, they can absorb a lot of damage. So a proximity hit may have not brought the aircraft down but damaged it badly. They may have limped back home.
 
vasanthm said:
So even if we go with your version of events, doesn’t change the fact that India hit your training infrastructure across the border, and will do it again if needed. Can you say you have created a deterrence? it clearly didn’t stop us, and it won’t stop us next time either. If the cost of creating this new normal is losing 10 planes due to tactical mistakes, so be it. Pretty sure folks at your GHQ are just hoping some nutjob doesn’t screw things up again and force another response.
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Classic diversion as usual. We are talking about AIR CRAFT losses.
Significantly President Trump didn't mention "destruction of air bases and terrorist camps wiped out " ( without mentioning the country of course. )
  1. If the cost of the "new normal" is delivery of a $1 billion destruction of assets and humiliation of a $5 trillion economy nation by a "bankrupt nation " them so be it.
  2. Can you say you have created a deterrence? There were so called "terrorist" attacks less than two weeksc after the "pause" in operation blundoor in the Kishtewar area sending at least one Indian Army jawan to Veergati . There wasn't any response to any job by this nutjiob
Anxiously awaiting the NEXT new normal operation Karwa Chauth. Our iron clad ally China wants us to test hypersonic DF-17s on your GHQ . We won't disappoint them
 
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