Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[samsite84]

Don't see any Indian offensive happening. There is no casus belli (if you will).
Also, given India's infrastructure/chain of command, it will take at least a few days to react. That IAF is seething from losses and wants revenge of sorts is bunkum. That's not how a military operates and there is no precedence of IAF doing that. The level of high alert can be exhausting for both forces though.

 

[Oscar]

Don't see any Indian offensive happening. There is no casus belli (if you will).
Also, given India's infrastructure/chain of command, it will take at least a few days to react. That IAF is seething from losses and wants revenge of sorts is bunkum. That's not how a military operates and there is no precedence of IAF doing that. The level of high alert can be exhausting for both forces though.

Ironically that “wants revenge” is well documented in many of the books written about conflicts by Indian military authors when speaking of feelings after a PAF attack and so on.

That is typical of wanting to show capability.

However at an operational level it cannot translate to a willy nilly movement and needs political support which however can be driven by irrationality regardless of causus belli or not.

 

[Olympus81]

A surprise attack by India is very much on the cards. Considering some success their supersonic missiles had, looks very likely they will start the attack with firing salvos of Brahmos on PAF HQ and AFBs.

Pakistan would be well served to be on high alert and any signs of Indian incoming missiles needs to be met with Fatah II, Ra’ad, Babar in central India and the nesting area of RSS extremists.

As a short term measure, Pakistan will be well advised to purchase C400AKG supersonic missiles in bulk from China.

This NOTAM games by India will go on until elections in Bihar.

 

[baqai]

i think Modi is in the boat "hum tu dobay tumhain bhi lai dobain gai sanam" and will do something which bypasses any of his past stupidities

 

[Baibers_1260]

If anything, they will try to take out PAF with an overwhelming attack while making some ground gains.

PAF is not their priority anymore. The priority is to kill civilians and destroy mosques.
The enemy has 2500 Brahmos missiles of which 513 have been used in May 2025. There are ample stocks to saturate a large number of selected targets with about 20 missiles to a target .That's about 10 MT of explosives which is roughly equivalent to the tonnage delivered on targets selected and destroyed by groups of B-17 and Lancaster bombers over Germany in 1944.
The enemy is planning a "Dresden " over Pakistan.

 

[Oscar]

PAF is not their priority anymore. The priority is to kill civilians and destroy mosques.
The enemy has 2500 Brahmos missiles of which 513 have been used in May 2025. There are ample stocks to saturate a large number of selected targets with about 20 missiles to a target .That's about 10 MT of explosives which is roughly equivalent to the tonnage delivered on targets selected and destroyed by groups of B-17 and Lancaster bombers over Germany in 1944.
The enemy is planning a "Dresden " over Pakistan.

Ive dispelled the Brahmos number myth in an earlier post.
Nor did they use this many missiles. Total exaggeration.

 

[arjunk]

The main diplomatic leverage the Indians have is their economy. Destroy this, and they are just another worthless brown country in the eyes of the int'l community.

The reason the Americans wanted a ceasefire was because if the war escalated, it would be bad for US shareholders if their Indian cash cow was slaughtered.

Pakistan made a huge blunder by showing its EW cards, failing to make use of the air superiority it gained, and allowing the Indians to regroup. The Indians will definitely come back for another round, their economy can handle a US trade embargo far longer than ours can. And if they win, the world will be more than happy to look the other way as they genocide us.

Playing by the Indians' rules and engaging in a prolonged conflict with US stepping in to save India and allowing it to implement lessons learnt after ever round is suicidal.

Next time, either finish the job, or the Indians will.

 

[pwfi]

Kashmir is more important. Iran, Turkey and China must all focus on Kashmir.

Palestine should ask Modi for help. Clearly our Kashmir, our suffering didn't matter at all.

This rascal (Mehmood Abbas) don't represent Gaza, in fact he's the friend of zionists and wage war against Hamas, and all those are against Israel

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

i never thought, I would see air battles in my life time. That is over...

its time for naval battle now

 

[Psyko70]

This rascal (Mehmood Abbas) don't represent Gaza, in fact he's the friend of zionists and wage war against Hamas, and all those are against Israel

We will never leave support for palestine and kashmir. This person is indeed representation of palestine.

 

[NA71]

It is likely a diversion for naval attack.
The enemy can justify an attack ANYWHERE in Pakistan saying "terrorists " are hiding there, Clifton or Lalazar in Karachi could be leveled by saturation Brahmos attacks on the same rationale.
The enemy is likely to be attacking the homes of air force officers, army officers and defense personnel. These are far easier targets to hit.

Hitting "terrorists " is sometimes a tried and tested reason for genocide.

Remember the diversion they used in strikes in previous episode ...they fired five missiles on Indian side of Punjab and after 1 hrs their actual strikes on Pakistan were started .but this time....they will go straight to business ....no false flag ops ....

Their easiest target is port ....from two sides...... bhuj and naval front....this is the 2nd time in month they issued Notam for the same area.

 

[arjunk]

PAF is not their priority anymore. The priority is to kill civilians and destroy mosques.
The enemy has 2500 Brahmos missiles of which 513 have been used in May 2025. There are ample stocks to saturate a large number of selected targets with about 20 missiles to a target .That's about 10 MT of explosives which is roughly equivalent to the tonnage delivered on targets selected and destroyed by groups of B-17 and Lancaster bombers over Germany in 1944.
The enemy is planning a "Dresden " over Pakistan.

PAF is their priority uno

IAF Israeli/western/russian equipment on paper is equal or superior to PAF's. India wants PAF to keep showing its cards so that IAF can learn to use its equipment. With PAF gone Pakistan is gone. The Israelis and Indians will begin 24/7 lobbying for the US to seize Pakistan's nukes and prevent it from attacking India after.

In the future, if PAF shows its cards, it should only be to utterly decimate India to the point either Kashmir is liberated or India's software will be reset to its factory default of licking Muslim invader boots.

This rascal (Mehmood Abbas) don't represent Gaza, in fact he's the friend of zionists and wage war against Hamas, and all those are against Israel

Until the Arabs (including Palestine) and Persians rescind their recognition of India (settler colonial rapist state), we have no reason to not recognize Israel.

 

[Baibers_1260]

The main diplomatic leverage the Indians have is their economy. Destroy this, and they are just another worthless brown country in the eyes of the int'l community.

Economy is secondary to India's strategic location vis-a-vis China.
In theory India, is poised to threaten both, China's maritime trade in Indian Ocean Arabian sea , and China's South Western link with Pakistan and access to the Persian Gulf countries
The West wants India to take on China, India's economy is the result of investment and support from the West.
However recent events have revealed that India has been deceiving the West and is in no mood to fight China on behalf of the West but would like to fight Pakistan instead.
India wants the West to destroy Pakistan's nuclear assets just as the USA destroyed Iran's nuclear assets.

 

[arjunk]

Until the Arabs (including Palestine) and Persians rescind their recognition of India (settler colonial rapist state), we have no reason to not recognize Israel.

Of course, we can continue issuing strongly worded letters against Israel (the way Arabs do with India) or lobbying to cover up Israeli atrocities at OIC and UN (the way Persians do with India)

 

[NA71]

i never thought, I would see air battles in my life time. That is over...

its time for naval battle now

Air battle will not come into play from IAF .....they will avoid it ....but PAF will be on A2G and naval missions....