Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[NA71]

They would give anything to get a kill in air against PAF. They are desperate. Its hurting alot. First swift retort and now 7th may.

Exactly ....that's why .....they are conducting exercises near Sindh boarder twice in recent weeks.....

this is an another question why they are preferring this location?

As mention in your post, they are desperate to get a kill .....our boys should also remain cool ...no extra bravado ....no superman .....remain in the safe envelope

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

I made and make no such assumptions. Ofcoarse they could possibly come back and perform much better next time round. Where did I say they can’t? My point was that despite all the bravado and bluster they failed miserably in in 2019 and faired even worse in 2025 and are now reduced to showing how powerful they are by wiping out the ‘enemy’ in their own exercises.

Folks need to study and observe the Murad-i Ialhi. HIS JELALET and JEMALET go in cycles. Looks like the PAF is being blessed with JEMALET, and, inversely the IAF is being cursed with JELALET. Hence, a miniscule effort by the PAF gets amplified by many folds. And, a humongous effort by the IAF gets attenuated by many folds.. Therefore, the next round would produce even worse results for the IAF and better for the PAF by HIS PERMISSION....

 

[amuqeetk]

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worth listening with regards to the war between pakistan and india air battle

 

[Fatman17]

Folks need to study and observe the Murad-i Ialhi. HIS JELALET and JEMALET go in cycles. Looks like the PAF is being blessed with JEMALET, and, inversely the IAF is being cursed with JELALET. Hence, a miniscule effort by the PAF gets amplified by many folds. And, a humongous effort by the IAF gets attenuated by many folds.. Therefore, the next round would produce even worse results for the IAF and better for the PAF by HIS PERMISSION....

Bro no religious sermon please to understand

 

[airwolf137]

Expertise on declaring false flags and conspiracy theories lies with your brethren. From earth is flat, Osama was caught in California to 9/11 was done by US itself are just few examples of that expertise.
I dare not tread on your area of expertise.
I have just analysed about the possibilities of another conflict.

Yeah.. and what expertise are needed to attack a nuclear armed country without providing a shred of evidence.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Bro no religious sermon please to understand

This is no religious sermon. It's understanding the Hakikat with Hikmet. And, it's the barest minimum.....

I want to read the MIND of GOD. The rest are all details - Albert Einstein

Don't look at the headlines, see the trend line - President Bill Clinton

 

[Fatman17]

Sure and you won't find me denying that India is far behind China across almost every field (maybe cricket or chess is the saving grace haha). Facts are facts - we were caught unaware and didn't respond well to Chinese aggression and are way behind the geopolitical and technological might. Its only a US vs. China discussion. India is no where near.

Having said that, Pakistan in general hasn't learned any lessons from either China or India's rise. China focused on first becoming an economic powerhouse before projecting military power. Same with India (to a much lesser extent).

Moreover, I find Pakistan loves to play the "younger bro" (from 70s-90s it was USA as big bro now its China). Anyways, topic is Pakistan vs. India conflict so lets stick to it - shall we?

Stick to the topic please

 

[Fatman17]

IWT is definitely a visual at the moment. Any meaningful diversion of water is atleast 6-7 years away. At this time, it can only have nuisance value in terms of water data sharing putting Pakistan under difficult situation. During lean months, this could pose some difficulties. Even at this time the masses are made to believe that a catastrophe has fallen, if the gates of the dams are either closed or opened. When closed, it is called an attempt to create a drought and when opened, it is with an intent to flood. Awam (both sides) is fully convinced about these narratives. IWT would become more and more of an emotive issue, in the coming years.

370 is not just about attacks but much more. It is also not about changing the demographics as claimed by many posters incorrectly. The details of the same have been discussed in detail on the relevant thread. After all, it has been a troublesome issue for so many decades. Wounds can’t be healed in just a few years. And one Pulwama can’t derail it either.

Moreover, these are just two factors. How big or small can change with time. This is just a start.

No offtopic stuff please

 

[Pagal khaana]

Exactly ....that's why .....they are conducting exercises near Sindh boarder twice in recent weeks.....

this is an another question why they are preferring this location?

As mention in your post, they are desperate to get a kill .....our boys should also remain cool ...no extra bravado ....no superman .....remain in the safe envelope

Cause, Pak Army is sitting on Indian soil in that area called Rajasthan

 

[lightning f57]

if not all members from Pakistan had summarised that it was the last attack ever by India

This is not the case, just an Indian thought.

Pakistan has always expected trouble from Modis hindutva India including many people on this forum.

What was always expected across the board a Pakistani retaliatory proportionate response.

 

[lightning f57]

That may well be the case, but then there goes your entire doctrine of keeping under the "threshold". As I've already described, your policy of "punishing Pakistan" for your own security failures is idiotic and doomed to fail. After every attack in Kashmir you've escalated, the attacks will not stop in Kashmir and your attacks will not deter Pakistan from supporting the Kashmiri Freedom fighters. You'll have to escalate after each attack until you will be forced to breach that threshold. The only end game in sight is a full blown war, in which case it's anyone's guess what will happen.

Infact if your a Kashmiri freedom fighter and you want more muscle to help you, now you have a perfect plan, attack kill Indians let Pak take the blame and let a war start.

 

[Vkdindian1]

To achieve what exactly? What will you get by repeating the same shit for political consumption. Like seriously this is getting out of hand.

What is Pakistan trying to achieve by supporting separatists in Kashmir?
Will it ever materialise through military means? Or by force?

Similarly the current dispensation wants to increase the cost of this support. It can’t remain a low level insurgency with casualties now and then.
That seems to be the premise now. I could be wrong since I wasn’t consulted by Modi and his team.

 

[Vkdindian1]

Yeah.. and what expertise are needed to attack a nuclear armed country without providing a shred of evidence.

Nothing at all. It was proven on 7th May,

 

[lightning f57]

Best of luck with your assumptions when you start a war with Pakistan.

Trumpy wont indefinitely be in office either to say narrinder surrender.

Next time maybe it will go full nuke.

 

[Vkdindian1]

This is not the case, just an Indian thought.

Pakistan has always expected trouble from Modis hindutva India including many people on this forum.

Even this time there are many who have concluded that shooting down of IAF aircraft is a death knell on any future Indian aggression.
Earlier too there was a similar assessment that Modi and Co. have been taught a lesson.
This time Modi has just declared a pause to Op Sindoor. This has kept the doors open to press resume at any time. The scale could be bigger. Dont attack me for saying this since it just is my assumption. I don’t support or call for military action and hope for each side to sit down and resolve all the issues amicably.