Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[TopGun786]

Again, proofs would have been provided to the "relevant" stakeholders. Indian government provided proofs to Pakistan government for 26/11, Pathankot etc.

Over the years, many such dossiers have made their way across the borders and that is how international relations/diplomacy works

GoI or GoP is not going to provide proofs for my or your consumption. The way members here assess it being an "inside-job" is hurtful but more so shows double standards.

If you want to understand Indian perspective, you have it there... If you don't - your choice, don't need to engage

Again you are trying to get smart.
I asked for proof. Did you people gave any proof of Pahlagam attack by Pakistan?????
Also don't talk about terrorism. Everyone knows India is sponsoring terrorism all over Pakistan especially Baluchistn. Too many proofs handed over to India... What about those?
What about Kalbushan Yadav and his confessions???
Don't deviate from the main topic.
We asked you for the proof of "Pahlagam attack" involvement of Pakistan. Provide it or leave the thread.
And i am not going to spare you until I clean you by treating properly.
@Fatman17

 

[TopGun786]

Again, proofs would have been provided to the "relevant" stakeholders

No proofs has been handed over to Pakistan or any other foreign authority/UN.
Now talk further what you say.

 

[Musings]

In words of a certain mod: "don't try to be cute"

India's response has no bearing on whether proof needs to be provided or not. A proof needs to be provided for ANY claim you make, whether or not you respond.

Pahalgam is not new or one-off, and government would have engaged and provided proof to the right stakeholders. Same with 26/11, Pathankot, Uri etc.

Listen
You attack a sovereign nation and are still to provide proof of who did what. Once again your intel has been unable to provide any evidence for your claims. Why is it beyond Indian comprehension - you cant attack a nation for sheer blatant hate of Muslims. Lashing out makes you look like international clowns

 

[samsite84]

Listen
You attack a sovereign nation and are still to provide proof of who did what. Once again your intel has been unable to provide any evidence for your claims. Why is it beyond Indian comprehension - you cant attack a nation for sheer blatant hate of Muslims. Lashing out makes you look like international clowns

I understand that's Pakistan's perspective. Indian perspective is different.

1. For Indians, most attacks have emanated from terrorists groups such as LeT, Jaish. There is ample evidence (according to Indian sources) about the presence of key leadership and assets in Pakistan.

2. India provided proofs of past attacks to Pakistan government and didn't see a fitting response.

3. This policy changed under the regime, where every terror act will be responded to by taking our terrorists (personnel and infrastructure). That policy has been implemented since 2016 (not just Pakistan but also Myanmar)

4. Pahalgam is the latest episode in the policy's execution. GoI attacked what it believes is terror infrastructure and made it clear. Pakistan responded as it saw fit, India retaliated we got ceasefire in a short time. Both people on India and Pakistan wanted "more" and a few were relieved that it ended sooner rather than later

5. There is no blatant hate of Muslims (as much few Pakistani members here would like to be true) - we are all Indians and being Muslim, Hindu, Parsi, Sikh etc doesn't matter.

Now did India violate Pakistan's sovereignty - yes. Did it have repercussions for broader geopolitical and diplomatic situation - yes and for once I think India didn't come up "Trumps". How much did it impact India is a matter of debate and also has a different answer by vector (economy, diplomatic, military)

About being "international clowns" - sure some might say that, I can say the same thing for Pakistan when the foreign minister agrees to being a "Lackey" of US or Hina Rabbani Khar or Bilawal Bhutto get "taken to task" by journalists.

 

[Yasser76]

I understand that's Pakistan's perspective. Indian perspective is different.

1. For Indians, most attacks have emanated from terrorists groups such as LeT, Jaish. There is ample evidence (according to Indian sources) about the presence of key leadership and assets in Pakistan.

2. India provided proofs of past attacks to Pakistan government and didn't see a fitting response.

3. This policy changed under the regime, where every terror act will be responded to by taking our terrorists (personnel and infrastructure). That policy has been implemented since 2016 (not just Pakistan but also Myanmar)

4. Pahalgam is the latest episode in the policy's execution. GoI attacked what it believes is terror infrastructure and made it clear. Pakistan responded as it saw fit, India retaliated we got ceasefire in a short time. Both people on India and Pakistan wanted "more" and a few were relieved that it ended sooner rather than later

5. There is no blatant hate of Muslims (as much few Pakistani members here would like to be true) - we are all Indians and being Muslim, Hindu, Parsi, Sikh etc doesn't matter.

Now did India violate Pakistan's sovereignty - yes. Did it have repercussions for broader geopolitical and diplomatic situation - yes and for once I think India didn't come up "Trumps". How much did it impact India is a matter of debate and also has a different answer by vector (economy, diplomatic, military)

About being "international clowns" - sure some might say that, I can say the same thing for Pakistan when the foreign minister agrees to being a "Lackey" of US or Hina Rabbani Khar or Bilawal Bhutto get "taken to task" by journalists.

Lots of words to basically say sweet f**k all.

You are just wasting our time here now

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

For all the Pakistani members asking for "proof" of Pahalgam, they don't somehow need "proof" of it being an "inside job". Double standards much...

Also, in the same vein, is it ok if I say that every terrorist action in Pakistan is an inside job and Pakistan Army wants a "cover your backside" story

Uri, pahalgam, pulwama, all done by Kashmiris. If India had any proof of cross border militants they would scream from their rooftops, remember Kasab?

 

[I*R*A]

GoI or GoP is not going to provide proofs for my or your consumption. The way members here assess it being an "inside-job" is hurtful but more so shows double standards.

modi did all that drama to deceive the gullible, the deluded, the superstitious, little chicken legs common chaddi.

We understand you love your country, but what I said is a fact. That guy has been playing with your emotions and selling you some stupid dreams.

You should be asking your government

1. Why did we attack a sovereign nuclear nation?

Your mosi, your aunt, your cousins or even your own family may still be living in india, within reach of Pakistani nuclear missiles, just imagine while sitting in the US, one fine morning your turn on tv and see big huge mushroom clouds in subcontinent .. how would you feel? All lost, why because you were busy arguing with Pakistanis and not asking tough questions from your indian government. Sad scenario very sad scenario .. mosi gone, cousins gone, ram ram sattay

2. Why is there need for op sindoor to continue? Pakistanis do not give two hoots if it still ongoing, but you know who benefits? modi and his lot .. they hide behind this so they do not have to answer the difficult questions.

You do love your mosi and cousins right? If yes, then ask your government these questions, do not waste time arguing with us terrorist Pakistanis, we love death anyways, clock is ticking. Mosi cousins radiation very sad sad scenario. Just because Samsite was busy arguing with Pakistanis and defending his / her country's honor online.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Any update on the status of the current NOTAM ?? Is it over?
What's next on the notams ??
How fast are they(india) getting the replenishments of the weapons?

This will give us a idea of their "preparations" for future.

Replenishments of weapons is not a problem, they did not expend that much other than the Israeli drones. Stock levels of weapons is not what stopped the conflict, it was the PAF. The problem for India is the non-functional war fighting doctrine of the IAF. The PAF has the drop on the IAF both through the PL15 and also its multi-domain concepts. This will take India a few years to fix. I don't see India picking another aerial battle with the PAF as it wont go very well for them. I therefore, don't see any future conflict in the near term until the IAF fix their issues, as the PAF owns the skies right now and if you own the sky, you own the whole battlespace.

 

[samsite84]

Uri, pahalgam, pulwama, all done by Kashmiris. If India had any proof of cross border militants they would scream from their rooftops, remember Kasab?

Sure. For India, the larger question is not the "origin" of terrorists but how these terrorists are armed and trained. And let me give you an equivalence here:

1. Lets say Indian entity named XYZ provides arms, ammunition and finance to BLA. Would you hold India responsible or not?

2. Similarly, if terrorists are being provided arms, ammunition and finance from across the border (by state agencies or otherwise), would you not hold them accountable?

3. Indian citizens don't have ready access to arms, ammunition and there are no terror training camps on Indian side of the border so clearly this is emanating from outside India. No proof required here.

4. In case of India, there are "targets" that can be hit - where according to India terrorists are trained. I am not sure, if Pakistan government/military has a view on "targets" to be hit in India to punish India for terrorism in KPK/Baluchistan. Time will tell...

Hope this clarifies an Indian members perspective

 

[TopGun786]

I understand that's Pakistan's perspective. Indian perspective is different.

1. For Indians, most attacks have emanated from terrorists groups such as LeT, Jaish. There is ample evidence (according to Indian sources) about the presence of key leadership and assets in Pakistan.

2. India provided proofs of past attacks to Pakistan government and didn't see a fitting response.

3. This policy changed under the regime, where every terror act will be responded to by taking our terrorists (personnel and infrastructure). That policy has been implemented since 2016 (not just Pakistan but also Myanmar)

4. Pahalgam is the latest episode in the policy's execution. GoI attacked what it believes is terror infrastructure and made it clear. Pakistan responded as it saw fit, India retaliated we got ceasefire in a short time. Both people on India and Pakistan wanted "more" and a few were relieved that it ended sooner rather than later

5. There is no blatant hate of Muslims (as much few Pakistani members here would like to be true) - we are all Indians and being Muslim, Hindu, Parsi, Sikh etc doesn't matter.

Now did India violate Pakistan's sovereignty - yes. Did it have repercussions for broader geopolitical and diplomatic situation - yes and for once I think India didn't come up "Trumps". How much did it impact India is a matter of debate and also has a different answer by vector (economy, diplomatic, military)

About being "international clowns" - sure some might say that, I can say the same thing for Pakistan when the foreign minister agrees to being a "Lackey" of US or Hina Rabbani Khar or Bilawal Bhutto get "taken to task" by journalists.

Don't waste time.
I asked you a very simple question.
Where is the proof of Pakistan's involvement in Pahlagam attack???

 

[El Sidd]

I understand that's Pakistan's perspective. Indian perspective is different.

1. For Indians, most attacks have emanated from terrorists groups such as LeT, Jaish. There is ample evidence (according to Indian sources) about the presence of key leadership and assets in Pakistan.

2. India provided proofs of past attacks to Pakistan government and didn't see a fitting response.

3. This policy changed under the regime, where every terror act will be responded to by taking our terrorists (personnel and infrastructure). That policy has been implemented since 2016 (not just Pakistan but also Myanmar)

4. Pahalgam is the latest episode in the policy's execution. GoI attacked what it believes is terror infrastructure and made it clear. Pakistan responded as it saw fit, India retaliated we got ceasefire in a short time. Both people on India and Pakistan wanted "more" and a few were relieved that it ended sooner rather than later

5. There is no blatant hate of Muslims (as much few Pakistani members here would like to be true) - we are all Indians and being Muslim, Hindu, Parsi, Sikh etc doesn't matter.

Now did India violate Pakistan's sovereignty - yes. Did it have repercussions for broader geopolitical and diplomatic situation - yes and for once I think India didn't come up "Trumps". How much did it impact India is a matter of debate and also has a different answer by vector (economy, diplomatic, military)

About being "international clowns" - sure some might say that, I can say the same thing for Pakistan when the foreign minister agrees to being a "Lackey" of US or Hina Rabbani Khar or Bilawal Bhutto get "taken to task" by journalists.

Why are you calling your own government as a 'regime'?

 

[Falcon26]

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50 launched, only 11 hit?

The Indians are so coping with fake celebrations even after having 5 of their jets shot down. Imagine if they shot down even 1 PAF jet. They would have gone nuts.

 

[samsite84]

modi did all that drama to deceive the gullible, the deluded, the superstitious, little chicken legs common chaddi.

We understand you love your country, but what I said is a fact. That guy has been playing with your emotions and selling you some stupid dreams.

You should be asking your government

1. Why did we attack a sovereign nuclear nation?

Your mosi, your aunt, your cousins or even your own family may still be living in india, within reach of Pakistani nuclear missiles, just imagine while sitting in the US, one fine morning your turn on tv and see big huge mushroom clouds in subcontinent .. how would you feel? All lost, why because you were busy arguing with Pakistanis and not asking tough questions from your indian government. Sad scenario very sad scenario .. mosi gone, cousins gone, ram ram sattay

2. Why is there need for op sindoor to continue? Pakistanis do not give two hoots if it still ongoing, but you know who benefits? modi and his lot .. they hide behind this so they do not have to answer the difficult questions.

You do love your mosi and cousins right? If yes, then ask your government these questions, do not waste time arguing with us terrorist Pakistanis, we love death anyways, clock is ticking. Mosi cousins radiation very sad sad scenario. Just because Samsite was busy arguing with Pakistanis and defending his / her country's honor online.

Good response and valid questions.

1. I have mentioned this in one of the earlier posts, but Indian population at large has been exhausted (tired) of no action on terrorism even when all other govts have been claiming we "know" where terrorists are, we "know" how they are trained etc. Right, wrong or indifferent - that's where majority stands as of 07/26/2025 - can it change - sure

2. This one is pure cosmetics - no sane minded Indian believes this - there is no higher state of readiness in citizens etc.

I wouldn't go into all the "personalization" you've done.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Sure. For India, the larger question is not the "origin" of terrorists but how these terrorists are armed and trained. And let me give you an equivalence here:

1. Lets say Indian entity named XYZ provides arms, ammunition and finance to BLA. Would you hold India responsible or not?

2. Similarly, if terrorists are being provided arms, ammunition and finance from across the border (by state agencies or otherwise), would you not hold them accountable?

3. Indian citizens don't have ready access to arms, ammunition and there are no terror training camps on Indian side of the border so clearly this is emanating from outside India. No proof required here.

4. In case of India, there are "targets" that can be hit - where according to India terrorists are trained. I am not sure, if Pakistan government/military has a view on "targets" to be hit in India to punish India for terrorism in KPK/Baluchistan. Time will tell...

Hope this clarifies an Indian members perspective

We caught Yadav who provided arms and support to BLA. What does India have?

Its not a big deal to get hand on some AK-47.

India also have other dozen internal conflicts going on, Manipur is locked down since 3 years. Where do they get AK-47?

Kashmiri militants started attacking Indian civilians post article 370 removal as game is clear, ethnic cleansing with settler colonialism in disputed region.

Modi not only revived Khalistan movement but also IoK militancy which was almost dead by end of 2014.

 

[Musings]

I understand that's Pakistan's perspective. Indian perspective is different.

1. For Indians, most attacks have emanated from terrorists groups such as LeT, Jaish. There is ample evidence (according to Indian sources) about the presence of key leadership and assets in Pakistan.

2. India provided proofs of past attacks to Pakistan government and didn't see a fitting response.

3. This policy changed under the regime, where every terror act will be responded to by taking our terrorists (personnel and infrastructure). That policy has been implemented since 2016 (not just Pakistan but also Myanmar)

4. Pahalgam is the latest episode in the policy's execution. GoI attacked what it believes is terror infrastructure and made it clear. Pakistan responded as it saw fit, India retaliated we got ceasefire in a short time. Both people on India and Pakistan wanted "more" and a few were relieved that it ended sooner rather than later

5. There is no blatant hate of Muslims (as much few Pakistani members here would like to be true) - we are all Indians and being Muslim, Hindu, Parsi, Sikh etc doesn't matter.

Now did India violate Pakistan's sovereignty - yes. Did it have repercussions for broader geopolitical and diplomatic situation - yes and for once I think India didn't come up "Trumps". How much did it impact India is a matter of debate and also has a different answer by vector (economy, diplomatic, military)

About being "international clowns" - sure some might say that, I can say the same thing for Pakistan when the foreign minister agrees to being a "Lackey" of US or Hina Rabbani Khar or Bilawal Bhutto get "taken to task" by journalists.

Yaar im tired.
Indian posters on here are not able to site 1 piece of evidence for any attack on i dian soil. Now please stop doing a circular argument.