Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

NA71 said:
Boss there is no next time in war.....they took out Nur Khan AB ....we missed a massive strike on their key AirBases ...

Time will come when we really start discussing our response on May 10 ...with open heart .
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Can you post some links to the evidence that confirms this?
 
samsite84 said:
For all the Pakistani members asking for "proof" of Pahalgam, they don't somehow need "proof" of it being an "inside job". Double standards much...

Also, in the same vein, is it ok if I say that every terrorist action in Pakistan is an inside job and Pakistan Army wants a "cover your backside" story
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The problem with this approach is that there is proof of nothing, neither an "inside job", nor an "externally facilitated attack".

When there is proof of nothing, using this brain fahrt as cassus belli against a sovereign nation state is amateurish, hence the world laughs. Even Russia has better hard evidence for attacking Ukraine.

The world laughed a second time when this so-called sindoor pigment of justice resulted in multiple IAF jets being downed.

Pakistan offered a joint/3rd party investigation into a criminal act. In retrospect, Delhi should have accepted this on good faith.

Of course, some would argue that Delhi never actually wanted the Pahalgam case to actually be solved in a legal sense.
 
samsite84 said:
In words of a certain mod: "don't try to be cute"

India's response has no bearing on whether proof needs to be provided or not. A proof needs to be provided for ANY claim you make, whether or not you respond.

Pahalgam is not new or one-off, and government would have engaged and provided proof to the right stakeholders. Same with 26/11, Pathankot, Uri etc.
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You have basically said that proof is not required.
 
fan boys have now 'Bollywood Patches' for the air force which was virtually inactive after 7th May!!!!

like 'AMRAM Dodgers' patches in olden days!

how can one have 'patches' which was defeated?!
 
samsite84 said:
1. Pakistan launched missiles at Indian military installations in response to Pakistan's violation of sovereignty by Indian forces - that's fair but dangerous game and frankly Modi's assertion (or more likely drama) that he didn't expect a response made me chuckle

2. Its way too personal than the picture you've laid out.

3. Nah - For better or worse, Indians don't believe there will be a nuclear war because Indian's don't believe our govt will threaten Pakistan's existence. I have mentioned it before, most Indians recognize Pakistan as a sovereign entity and want to do "nothing" with it.
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I am still waiting for your proof for Pakistan's involvement in Pahlagam.
And yet your country make attack on a sovereign nation, launched advanced missiles and martyred her innocent civilians. This is such a big crime that even if your country was nuked in response most of the the world would have justified it.
Don't talk much.... Give us proof. You bragged on this forum for too long.
 
As soon as flood season is over, Pakistan should bomb the Indian Dams in Kashmir so as to get out of the water blockade by India and there is nothing to stop Pakistan as India does not have air craft to counter Pakistani air craft and it has already revoked the Indus Water Treaty.
 
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"A bad workman always blames his tools"..

The Rafale is a good platform. It is not as good as the Eurofighter.
 
NA71 said:
Boss there is no next time in war.....they took out Nur Khan AB ....we missed a massive strike on their key AirBases ...

Time will come when we really start discussing our response on May 10 ...with open heart .
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My foot , for whatever reason you are always making these ridiculous claims .
I personally witnessed the attack on Nur Khan. Two detonation, first a small one which I assumed was the interception and some 15 seconds later a larger one when the war head impacted on the ground .
Next morning I saw the usual traffic of C-130s landing and taking off .
 
samsite84 said:
For all the Pakistani members asking for "proof" of Pahalgam, they don't somehow need "proof" of it being an "inside job". Double standards much...

Also, in the same vein, is it ok if I say that every terrorist action in Pakistan is an inside job and Pakistan Army wants a "cover your backside" story
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India failed to give proof, less than 24 hrs after suspended IWT which points to a planned coordinated action. The attackers not caught infact they seem more like a ghost, so yes points to an inside job. Issue is Indians fallen for modis trick.
 
samsite84 said:
I understand that's Pakistan's perspective. Indian perspective is different.

1. For Indians, most attacks have emanated from terrorists groups such as LeT, Jaish. There is ample evidence (according to Indian sources) about the presence of key leadership and assets in Pakistan.

2. India provided proofs of past attacks to Pakistan government and didn't see a fitting response.

3. This policy changed under the regime, where every terror act will be responded to by taking our terrorists (personnel and infrastructure). That policy has been implemented since 2016 (not just Pakistan but also Myanmar)

4. Pahalgam is the latest episode in the policy's execution. GoI attacked what it believes is terror infrastructure and made it clear. Pakistan responded as it saw fit, India retaliated we got ceasefire in a short time. Both people on India and Pakistan wanted "more" and a few were relieved that it ended sooner rather than later

5. There is no blatant hate of Muslims (as much few Pakistani members here would like to be true) - we are all Indians and being Muslim, Hindu, Parsi, Sikh etc doesn't matter.

Now did India violate Pakistan's sovereignty - yes. Did it have repercussions for broader geopolitical and diplomatic situation - yes and for once I think India didn't come up "Trumps". How much did it impact India is a matter of debate and also has a different answer by vector (economy, diplomatic, military)

About being "international clowns" - sure some might say that, I can say the same thing for Pakistan when the foreign minister agrees to being a "Lackey" of US or Hina Rabbani Khar or Bilawal Bhutto get "taken to task" by journalists.
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Its the worlds perspective not just Pakistans. India is internationally isolated.
 
samsite84 said:
For all the Pakistani members asking for "proof" of Pahalgam, they don't somehow need "proof" of it being an "inside job". Double standards much...

Also, in the same vein, is it ok if I say that every terrorist action in Pakistan is an inside job and Pakistan Army wants a "cover your backside" story
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Errr….. Pakistanis have said it’s an inside job but they didn’t just go and attack their neighbour over it without proof - India accused Pakistan without proof but then proceeded to attack and kill on that basis - do u see the difference u 🤡 & understand why it is nothing like double standards?
India got handed the epic humiliation it deserved for such reckless actions so only backsides being covered are Modi and his DGMO’s who along with the shameless service chiefs are somehow trying to change what is a humbling defeat into a hollow victory, through outright lies, half truths and ‘operation is ongoing’.
 
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