Z-10 ME/P deliveries Updates: Pakistan Army Aviation.

falcon34 said:
I have a question will these choppers be able to launch kamikaze drones like let's say mini Sarkash with 500km range,
Each hardpoint would be carrying 2 of these missiles total external weight carrying capacity of Z10ME is 1500kg, total 8 of these missiles per chopper.
India tries it's shannigans against us, PAF fights in the air while these choppers equipped with Sarkash will can do relentless barrage of missiles, F Series of batteries on the ground along blaze and Sarkash Ground launched batteries, the drone force, this would pack enough firepower that PAF wouldn't need to involve itself on Air to ground front, theoretically it would allow the PAF to take on A2A and DEAD/SEAD ops.
30 Z10 MEs = 240 missiles single volley, quick reload advantage,
50 F1 GMLRS launchers = 400 missiles in one volley.
Imagine the havoc it could cause among indians, the Choppers could quickly reload and pop up launch missiles. They wouldn't be needing any bases remote locations can be prepared in mints,
I refuse to believe Z10ME is just for Anti armour purposes or anti fortifications.
@Panzerkiel Sir ur thoughts on this.
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The role for these choppers is essentially the destruction of Indian armored columns and may be deal with Apache's through ATA missiles if need be. Loitering munitions can be launched from land like we did in Bunyan-um-Marsoos in much larger quantities.

We don't really need to use these limited number helos launching loitering munitions. Can they launch? Yes, if the adapters are there to connect and launch loitering munitions.

Let's take Russia-Ukraine example, Russia launches a combo of ballistic, cruise missiles plus loitering munitions around 100 or even 300, and ONLY 10-15% pass the air defenses. So these helos will focus on their key role. Loitering munition warfare is mass scale with different platforms.
 
RajaBaja said:
The role for these choppers is essentially the destruction of Indian armored columns and may be deal with Apache's through ATA missiles if need be. Loitering munitions can be launched from land like we did in Bunyan-um-Marsoos in much larger quantities.

We don't really need to use these limited number helos launching loitering munitions. Can they launch? Yes, if the adapters are there to connect and launch loitering munitions.

Let's take Russia-Ukraine example, Russia launches a combo of ballistic, cruise missiles plus loitering munitions around 100 or even 300, and ONLY 10-15% pass the air defenses. So these helos will focus on their key role. Loitering munition warfare is mass scale with different platforms.
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They can launch those munitions from different angles and positions with much greater speed than truck launched ones, pop from one attack vector and than than from another, we all know no mass armoured attack is happening, TB 2s, akinji's, WL 2 and shahpar are all there for anti tank role 2.
Utilizing them for that role in opening hours or days would increase the firepower capabilities of PA significantly.
 
to be fair this chopper looks good and sounds good

I would like to see a few dozen of these in operations

for Pakistan army we could do with 96 of these helicopters

it would really be a great thrust against the Indian heavy armoured divisions if they ever broke through our front lines

these tanker busters are lethal , flying low and the terrain is also perfect
 
falcon34 said:
I have a question will these choppers be able to launch kamikaze drones like let's say mini Sarkash with 500km range,
Each hardpoint would be carrying 2 of these missiles total external weight carrying capacity of Z10ME is 1500kg, total 8 of these missiles per chopper.
India tries it's shannigans against us, PAF fights in the air while these choppers equipped with Sarkash will can do relentless barrage of missiles, F Series of batteries on the ground along blaze and Sarkash Ground launched batteries, the drone force, this would pack enough firepower that PAF wouldn't need to involve itself on Air to ground front, theoretically it would allow the PAF to take on A2A and DEAD/SEAD ops.
30 Z10 MEs = 240 missiles single volley, quick reload advantage,
50 F1 GMLRS launchers = 400 missiles in one volley.
Imagine the havoc it could cause among indians, the Choppers could quickly reload and pop up launch missiles. They wouldn't be needing any bases remote locations can be prepared in mints,
I refuse to believe Z10ME is just for Anti armour purposes or anti fortifications.
@Panzerkiel Sir ur thoughts on this.
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Incorporating enemy capabilities and likely enemy responses as well can help you to arrive at more realistic battlefield scenarios.
 
safriz said:
This one has no radar ? Does it ?
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PAA may be going for some modified radars for them .. once tested will fitted

On other might want to integrate 3rd party radar on them instead of Chinese ones
 
falcon34 said:
I have a question will these choppers be able to launch kamikaze drones like let's say mini Sarkash with 500km range,
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Helicopter gunships have been called “treetop killers”. It's an apt term. When The helicopter gunships are positioned to dominate at low altitude.

When it is in a combat situation, it usually flies close to the ground at a very low altitude. This effectively prevents it from being detected in advance by enemy radar, but it also means that it cannot detect targets farther away. Current helicopter gunships also have a combat radius of a few hundred kilometers.

So, launching 500KM level missiles or UAVs is not its working range.
 
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