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[maverick]

It speaks of competence of both the nations and its people.

"Have we become so weak?" Congress MP Sukhdeo Bhagat on Trump's 25% tariff on India​

"Have we become so weak?" Congress MP Sukhdeo Bhagat on Trump's 25% tariff on India

Congress MP Sukhdeo Bhagat has criticised PM Modi's silence on the 25% tariff imposed by the US, questioning the government's vulnerability to US interference in strategic matters. Trump's announcement of tariffs and threats of further penalties for importing Russian oil have sparked concern...

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India has 49% tarrif on US imports, so why should US give any concessions to india anymore… do the indians realize how ungrateful they are to US?

 

[Dalit]

India has to follow consensus in BRICS and help create alternative world currency and bank payment system. Anything less than that would mean that other BRICS countries will not trust India. US has already made their threats. Let’s see India sinks in the middle or becames cuck for Trump or stands with BRICKS till the end.

Do you really see India standing with BRICS? What are the infamous words of Indian members on PDF? "Saaaar, Indian interests come first!" We all know what Indian interests are and these don't align with the Global South. India is a member of QUAD and BRICS. The most contradictory stance any country can take.

 

[PakFactor]

In Pakistan the poverty levels are still much better compared to superpower India.

Analysts would match the population as closely as possible to make a proper comparison between the two nations and measure the metrics. About two months ago, I had a long debate with another member in this forum.

When we compare the national poverty line, international poverty line, and multidimensional poverty (besides income, this also includes access to health, education, and living standards), Pakistan, on average, fared twice or more worse than India.

In the data sets, even Bangladesh was better than Pakistan.

 

[Dalit]

For proper comparison between two nations analysts would bring the the population and measure the metrics. I had a long debate with another member in this forum about two months ago.

When we compared the national poverty line, international poverty line, and multi dimensional poverty (besides income this also includes access to health, education, and living standards). Pakistan on average fared twice or more worse than India.

With a population of almost 1.45 billion people that is very hard to believe. Not so long ago India had more than 400 million people living below the poverty line. Call me sceptical, but I am not willing to believe that India waved a magic wand and these poor Indians suddenly disappeared.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

With a population of almost 1.45 billion people that is very hard to believe. Not so long ago India had more than 400 million people living below the poverty line. Call me sceptical, but I am not willing to believe that India waved a magic wand and these poor Indians suddenly disappeared.

Also, the definition of "poverty line" is different in different countries. There is no universal agreement and it varies between nations. For example what is considered severely poor in Iran may be considered okay in india. Also, you rely on government figures for each country which opens it up to severe manipulation. Can you actually trust the governments of all nations?.

 

[PakFactor]

With a population of almost 1.45 billion people that is very hard to believe. Not so long ago India had more than 400 million people living below the poverty line. Call me sceptical, but I am not willing to believe that India waved a magic wand and these poor Indians suddenly disappeared.

That's not what I said. When you use the scaling formula and compare a population-to-population, India and Bangladesh do far better than Pakistan.

Many structural changes and economic policies set by Manmohan Singh lifted a large portion of the population out of rural poverty, invested in Tier 1, 2, and 3 cities, and created quotas for poor households to have seats in higher learning institutions. The Modi Regime, till this day, is riding on his economic policies, with investments in infrastructure.

For what it's worth, Pakistan still suffers from chronic poverty, weak literacy, agricultural stagnation, and educational growth. The FDI between both countries, outside of MOUs, shows the stark comparison.

Not saying India has eliminated it, but they are doing far better.

I would have you do homework and compare infant and child mortality, using the scaling formula, and see where India and Pakistan stand.

Metric	India (Actual)	India (Scaled to 241M)	Pakistan (Actual)
Extreme Poverty Rate ($3/day)	5.3%	~12.8 million	~39.8 million
Lower-Middle-Income Poverty ($4.20/day)	23.9%	~57.6 million	~107.9 million
Multidimensional Poverty	15.5%	~37.4 million	Not officially reported, but likely >50 million

 

[PakFactor]

indians will NEVER EVER stand with BRICS. You have to remember, indians have an abnormal obsession with the white european races and worship them. Hence their pro-western stance. Also for whatever reason, indians have a visceral hatred towards ALL non-whites who are not indian and consider themselves to be superior to them. For example, indians believe they are superior and more intelligent than the Chinese EVEN though the evidence points to the exact opposite. Have no idea why this is.

Brother, the same can be said about Pakistan with its pro-Western stance and white worship. You and I both live in the West, and have seen that Pakistani's do not act so differently.

But do remember, BRICS is an economic organization; it's not a military organization or an ideological organization spanning multiple continents. It's make-up and each nation's independent policies that align with the West, hardly make it anti-West, etc.

 

[Dalit]

That's not what I said. When you use the scaling formula and compare a population-to-population, India and Bangladesh do far better than Pakistan.

Many structural changes and economic policies set by Manmohan Singh lifted a large portion of the population out of rural poverty, invested in Tier 1, 2, and 3 cities, and created quotas for poor households to have seats in higher learning institutions. The Modi Regime, till this day, is riding on his economic policies.

For what it's worth, Pakistan still suffers from chronic poverty. It still suffers from weak literacy, agricultural stagnation, and educational growth. The FDI between both countries, outside of MOUs, shows the stark comparison.

Not saying India has eliminated it, but they are doing far better.

I would have you do homework and compare infant and child mortality, using the scaling formula, and see where India and Pakistan stand.

Metric	India (Actual)	India (Scaled to 241M)	Pakistan (Actual)
Extreme Poverty Rate ($3/day)	5.3%	~12.8 million	~39.8 million
Lower-Middle-Income Poverty ($4.20/day)	23.9%	~57.6 million	~107.9 million
Multidimensional Poverty	15.5%	~37.4 million	Not officially reported, but likely >50 million

I don't want to drag this discussion, but let me reply. Pakistan is by no means an example. Neverthless, it has a fraction of Indian population. It takes an enormous effort and time to pull people from poverty.

Let's get real. The existing Indian caste system doesn't allow the poor to thrive. The rich are extremely rich. Wealth doesn't trickle down. The contrast between rich and poor is extreme in Hindustan. You have slums on one side and luxurious mansions on the other.

If you want to talk about real poverty reduction, China would be a more suitable example. Despite enormous economic rise, even China is till this day developing and moving people out of poverty. India has a very long way to go.

 

[arjunk]

In international politics - there is no friends.

It's all depends on national interests. If interest of two nations get aligned - than, there is possibility of partnership, or stragic relationship etc.

And india having very good relationship with most of the countries in the world - including arab countries to Africans, western to eastern.

Tomato Tomato.

If Indian interests do not align with anyone it will have an impact on the depth of its alliances.

China and the US both have an interest in strengthening Pakistan's economy and stability, and propping it up as at least an equal to India. This aligns with Pakistan's national objectives, we have no ambition beyond securing freedom for our own people within our own borders (including Kashmiris).

On the other hand, literally nobody wants a world where India is a supa powa. Not even Bangladesh.

 

[r3alist]

Tomato Tomato.

If Indian interests do not align with anyone it will have an impact on the depth of its alliances.

China and the US both have an interest in strengthening Pakistan's economy and stability, and propping it up as at least an equal to India. This aligns with Pakistan's national objectives, we have no ambition beyond securing freedom for our own people within our own borders (including Kashmiris).

On the other hand, literally nobody wants a world where India is a supa powa. Not even Bangladesh.

This whole notion of super power is crippling India.

 

[FarhanSiddiqui]

India is a member of QUAD and BRICS. The most contradictory stance any country can take.

That is why India is not trusted by either BRICS nor QUAD. It stood defeated and friendless after Kashmir clash and now Trump is mocking India daily.

 

[PakFactor]

I don't want to drag this discussion, but let me reply. Pakistan is by no means an example. Neverthless, it has a fraction of Indian population. It takes an enormous effort and time to pull people from poverty.

Let's get real. The existing Indian caste system doesn't allow the poor to thrive. The rich are extremely rich. Wealth doesn't trickle down. The contrast between rich and poor is extreme in Hindustan. You have slums on one side and luxurious mansions on the other.

If you want to talk about real poverty reduction, China would be a more suitable example. Despite enormous economic rise, even China is till this day developing and moving people out of poverty. India has a very long way to go.

Again, for its size and economy, India did far better than expected. Do not forget that Pakistan was ahead in development from the 1960s to the 1980s compared to India, but the reversal came in the late 1990s. If you look at the sectoral economic composition makeup of the three countries, Pakistan and India align more than India and China. Hence, the comparison is very valid in this case; the societal makeup is similar.

China has a different sectoral economic makeup, but remember that it has had direct funding from the West since the 1970s. It is a one-party rule with a target to achieve. It had the bureaucratic stability that neither Pakistan nor India had. The West opened its educational institutes to the Chinese, and many educated Chinese returned to build their nation. Compared to the former two countries, China focused more on industry and services. But even before that, it had Soviet Union inputs that allowed China to lay the foundations.

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The Indian economy is making inroads into pharmaceuticals, services, and manufacturing. It will take time for it to adjust to the market away from a heavy agricultural base economy from 17% of GDP down to 5-7% and increasing the other sectors' contribution to the economy. It's doing it, but it takes time to build the required chain.

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Your middle paragraph can be reflected on Pakistan, almost mirror-like, by using its own characters. While we do not have a strong caste-based system, there are biases that affect Pakistan just as equally. I've seen places that resemble slums in Pakistan, and you can see the wealth disparity between the two.

 

[Baibers_1260]

Is anyone in the USA experiencing rise in the prices of edible goods imported from India at the Indian grocery stores?
I went to the local Patel Grocery stores and found a substantial increase in the prices of specialty foods imported from India.

• A bottle of Maggi sauce was priced a dollar higher ( $3.99 instead of $2.99 )
• The Dahi Vada kit was also $1.00 more. ( now $3.99)
• Haldi Ram snacks were $1.25 more,
• A bottle of Deep Mango Pickle 283 gm is $3:29
• Worst hit were the Rice and Atta bags all 25% up:
  • 10 lb Tilda Basmati Rice is now $11:99
  • 40 lb Swad Basmati Rice is now $34.99
  • 20 lb Swad Chakki Atta is now $19.99.

As ex-pat Indian families almost exclusively cook food at home, with groceries bought from specialty stores the rise in prices of imported Indian items may be affecting their budget.

 

[RafaleSlayer]

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Shekar Gupta is having a meltdown.

Not long ago he said this

"From there, we have reached a place where America is a ‘natural strategic ally’. The alliance is growing into the Quad. India is also eyeing entry, at some point, into the elite Five Eyes grouping. The promise is of building a $5 trillion economy sooner than you imagine. The aspiration is to be a global power, economically, strategically and morally, the Vishwaguru." Shekar Gupta 2021

How times change

All oil is fantasy till someone drill and find it. Doesn't mean it doen't exist lol

please don't post this forever constipated liar

 

[Vkdindian1]

please don't post this forever constipated liar

Only Praveen Sawhney is the good guy, because he says only the stuff liked by you all.
Propagater of any other thought or idea is always a liar, anti-national, RAW agent, Nooni, Zionist and dimwit.