Z-10 ME/P deliveries Updates: Pakistan Army Aviation.

[Fatman17]

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[Fatman17]

18 X rocket pod

 

[CallSignMaverick]

QRSAM is likely ineffective at very low alt at its extreme ranges.

Might be, but it was specifically made for such threats, to act as a mobile AD to provide cover to mechanised formations. And I think any gunship on opposite side wouldn't want to take the risk coming close to it's range.

 

[Lion]

The cobras are not going any where, some have been moved to the western front to supports the ground opps.
But the majority remain stationed at the eastern front. Unlike the preception here in this forum, the overwhelming majority of the cobra fleet remains operational.
Their is no scarcity of parts.
The cobras will operate in conjunction with z10. Eg their is a flight of 6 attack heles 2 will be z 10 while 4 will be cobras. The z10 will not only provide top cover but better situational awareness and target acquisition. While cobras are still deadly with with c night and tow missiles......infact wt we have learnt from the Ukraine conflict is that wire guided munitions are more accurate and deadly then fire n forget munitions, as they are prone to jamming.
This is give us the most bang for the buck for the over all fleet.

Yeah no, that’s Bullshit. Pakistan got what 50 total? At least 4 were lost in accidents, and Not even all of them were modernized. The airframes on some got so old they’ve been turned into gate guards years ago. There’s one at the Lahore museum, one at Karachi museum, one at Gujranwala garrisons Rahawali gate and at least two more somewhere else that I can’t recall the location of, that’s over 10% of the fleet just as gate guards and museum pieces, and these are just the ones I know.

So No, “overwhelming majority” of the fleet is not operational. Using an AH1 alongside a Z-10 is a great invitation to lose both, the Z-10 can engage at several times the distance AH-1 can. Why would they fly together? How would an AH-1 defend itself from threats when it has to get so close to the enemy? Who says Wire guided missiles are more accurate? What data from Ukraine proves this?

 

[hyperman]

Pakistan by the very darling Mr Trump.

different circumstances, he would probably approve it today. They were angry with Pakistan over Afghanistan going downhill back then, and mad at Turkey over Syria and the PKK. Both situations have changed dramatically. But its likely too late for the T129. Though possibly in the future other opportunities can be available for cooperation. like Upgrades and coproduction either on the Z-10 or a heavier helicopter.

 

[Dalit]

Real unfortunate the situation with the T129 engine getting blocked by the US, not sure who they were punishing with that one, Turkey or Pakistan, but good on Pakistan to acquire a new platform.

Maybe in the future when the T929 is developed with a domestic engine, some sort of joint development deal to a variant tailored for Pakistan can be studied.

The Americans were indeed punishing Pakistan and essentially blocking the sale on behalf of India.

 

[mythbuster]

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Holy shit,.....two of these monsters can potentially wipe out the entire column of tanks .

 

[Fatman17]

different circumstances, he would probably approve it today. They were angry with Pakistan over Afghanistan going downhill back then, and mad at Turkey over Syria and the PKK. Both situations have changed dramatically. But its likely too late for the T129. Though possibly in the future other opportunities can be available for cooperation. like Upgrades and coproduction either on the Z-10 or a heavier helicopter.

No he accused Pakistan if playing a double game on CT

 

[hyperman]

No he accused Pakistan if playing a double game on CT

yes but now its over, the Afghan affair is over. Now he is inviting Asim Munir to visit him and watch parades. lol

 

[hyperman]

The Americans were indeed punishing Pakistan and essentially blocking the sale on behalf of India.

I don't think its India related, its Afghanistan related. But thats over, they recently sold F-16 upgrade kits after the Ukraine weapons/shells supply from pakistan.

 

[Dalit]

I don't think its India related, its Afghanistan related. But thats over, they recently sold F-16 upgrade kits after the Ukraine weapons/shells supply from pakistan.

The US was also appeasing India. The Indians have complained every time the Americans have sold something to Pakistan. Including F-16 upgrade kits.

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[hyperman]

The US was also appeasing India.

India is not a factor in US Pakistan relations as much as people think. Atleast not yet. China maybe, but not India, india is irrelevant. They don't consult India before. US Pakistan relations are dependent on Pakistan's geography neighboring Iran and Afghanistan/central Asia and its relationship with China. Not over what India likes or doesn't like, India hasn't really come to prominence in that way. You can see this in the refusal to take the Indian line on Pahalgan, which people condemned, but no country(other than Israel) blamed Pakistan for like India did, or supported its strikes. In many way, the US intervention to get the ceasefire was more in Pakistan's favor as it upset the Indians(or atleast blowhards in Indian media).

You give them too much credit.