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[Meengla]

But the question still remains, why would DT do anything of that sort?
To extract what from India? India is not Iran, Russia or Venezuela.
Let me also clarify that, if he keeps issuing threats on Twitter, then any chances of India accepting an unfavourable trade pact would vanish in thin air. India has been holding out in the negotiations and knows very well the possibilities of failed talks.
But coercion? I don’t remember India capitulating to coercion.

I think you are deluded that India can show much spine against America. Trump kept insulting India over the recent arranged ceasefire between India and Pakistan and it took a long time for India to show some 'spine' on that and that too after immense domestic pressure. But that prudence was a symptom of India's weakness. Definitely.
Indian planners are not stupid. They know their vulnerabilities all too well.

 

[吃瓜群众]

Earlier - Trump is dictating everything to India. India is a lackey of the US. This statement emanated, probably from their own past experiences.

Then- Now see, how India falls in line. Since 25% Tariff and penalty due to trade with Russia would be doomsday for India. India has no option but to fall in line.

Later- WTH, DT is mighty unhappy with India. He doesn’t like those who question his authority. As India showed two fingers, the feeling of disbelief and hurt was seen going through the roof. Scores and scores became spokesmen of DT and started conveying his displeasure with India.

Right Now - Mass scale burn has been seen spreading all over. Burnol was seen flying off the shelves.

Likelihood - We will see mass exodus of these experts, very soon, till a new thread starts about imminent Indian downfall.

India is acting quite tough now, but don't just talk later, to be consistent with words and deeds, if words and deeds are inconsistent, bragging is bragging, bragging in China is the most shameless behavior and the most incompetent performance, I think China and India can become friends, after all, they are both neighbors and Asian countries, in fact, Westerners still discriminate against us Asians, we must also unite to fight against Westerners' discrimination against us, don't think that your India is not discriminated against by the former suzerain, No matter how well you India does in the eyes of Westerners, it will not be valued, so we in Asia must unite, including Pakistan and all countries in South Asia and East Asia

 

[onlinpunit]

Relatively speaking, it’s better than what India has been able to do. India faces 25% plus additional penalties.

Ok. What can I say!

 

[Vkdindian1]

deluded

We will see.

In fact many people with Pak flag keep using this word and they have started believing in it.
Can you give me one example when India capitulated to coercion?

Trump kept insulting India

Trump has said and done many things and the tag of “stupid” or “divine” depends on which side one is looking from.

I disagree with the assessment that US was the main broker of the ceasefire. Even your EAM has acknowledged calls from few countries in the middle east to describe the sequence of events that lead to ceasefire. One call by Rubio was definitely not the main precipitator of those events.

Trump is in the habit of saying things on social media. He has said against Xi too. Have you ever heard Xi, answering him back? Has any world leader worth his salt tried to engage with him on Twitter? So, this lack of spine logic is good enough only for these page. Nowhere else.
Indian statement against US doing trade with Russia is lack of spine?
We can agree to disagree in this, since I have read your views on this matter.

Trump had made a comment about Pakistan, terrorism and US being made a fool. Has that fact become a lie now? Was that statement divine or stupid?

You are right to say that we have many vulnerabilities. Fighting headlong into US wouldn’t be a smart idea. But, mark my words - India isn’t going down this fight easily.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

China will support India on this issue.

In fact, a lot has changed in recent months between China and India. While the two sides continue to argue in public opinion, they have actually taken many concrete steps to improve economic and trade relations.

China will not allow the United States to defeat India through a tariff war.

There is a reason why Trump called India a dead economy. If the US doesn't carry it someone else will have to...
If you had read one of my previous posts I had noted exactly that... China will have to carry both Russia and Iran by default but India is not that easy... however it will be a default position for China.

As you can see orange man isn't using much rhetoric against China although it does the same... i.e. buy Russian oil. China is consequential and in this equation it makes only two camps... US and China... anyone who feels like a victim, by default in Chinese camp.
However, your take is more emotional than realistic as Trump is not doing that to throw India into Chinese camp... NO! He is doing it for quite the opposite, make India his side chick(use expletive of choice) AGAINST China. And coming days and weeks will make that very clear to all of us... so don't catch that hot potato just yet!

 

[Indos]

We will see.

In fact many people with Pak flag keep using this word and they have started believing in it.
Can you give me one example when India capitulated to coercion?

Trump has said and done many things and the tag of “stupid” or “divine” depends on which side one is looking from.

I disagree with the assessment that US was the main broker of the ceasefire. Even your EAM has acknowledged calls from few countries in the middle east to describe the sequence of events that lead to ceasefire. One call by Rubio was definitely not the main precipitator of those events.

Trump is in the habit of saying things on social media. He has said against Xi too. Have you ever heard Xi, answering him back? Has any world leader worth his salt tried to engage with him on Twitter? So, this lack of spine logic is good enough only for these page. Nowhere else.
Indian statement against US doing trade with Russia is lack of spine?
We can agree to disagree in this, since I have read your views on this matter.

Trump had made a comment about Pakistan, terrorism and US being made a fool. Has that fact become a lie now? Was that statement divine or stupid?

You are right to say that we have many vulnerabilities. Fighting headlong into US wouldn’t be a smart idea. But, mark my words - India isn’t going down this fight easily.

Trump threaten to stop tarrif negotiation, the same thing happen between Thai and Cambodia. It is not Malaysia who made the war stopped, but Trump.

PAK - India case is similar as both still negotiate during the war with Indians I see have expected good deal that later end up failed in last day(End of July)

 

[Michael]

There is a reason why Trump called India a dead economy. If the US doesn't carry it someone else will have to...
If you had read one of my previous posts I had noted exactly that... China will have to carry both Russia and Iran by default but India is not that easy... however it will be a default position for China.

As you can see orange man isn't using much rhetoric against China although it does the same... i.e. buy Russian oil. China is consequential and in this equation it makes only two camps... US and China... anyone who feels like a victim, by default in Chinese.
However, your take is more emotional as Trump is not doing that to throw India into Chinese camp... NO! He is doing it for quite the opposite, make India his side chick(use expletive of choice) AGAINST China. And coming days and weeks will make that very clear to all of us... so don't catch the hot potato too soon!

This isn't just emotional talk.
This is international political strategy. If you don't understand the rationale behind this strategy, I don't recommend you discuss international politics.
==========================
Two beasts were fighting in the forest.
One beast, gathering immense energy, launched a fierce attack on the other.
However, the other beast dodged, unharmed. However, this powerful attack injured numerous smaller animals watching nearby. Many of them quickly fled the battlefield, clutching their wounds.
At this moment, a larger animal launched a counterattack against the beast...

If you were the other beast, what would you do?
1. Kick the larger animal away and continue fighting?
2. Support the larger animal in its fight?

The essence of the political game is actually very simple, but many people are blinded by it.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

political strategy

Well in this case your whole "political strategy" draws a conclusion from a flawed scenario. You assume the one muddied with you is a natural ally. It isn't... the larger animal is drawing it's own pound of flesh... while you are the real victim.

India is being used to corner Russia... in their Ukrainian theater. It is a card out of the set available... even though it was US that allowed India to do it in the first place!!! Buy cheap Russian energy and deliver it to Europe. Total loss of Russian energy from global markets would have risen costs and possibly dragged the global economy into a recession. India obliged...!
Now this public theater is to put pressure on Russians though the dynamic remains the same... it is a pressure tactic that may never go through... except for its rhetoric. However, India unlike China has NO cards... and China though willing cannot carry the Indian burden... it is the US that carries a consumer economy NOT China. For China it is a loss of cold hard cash in lieu of nothing in substance to protect an adversary who's been playing games to curb China and its rise.

 

[FuturePAF]

Offtopic but I don't think Munir will be replaced with some 'democratic replacement'. This is a long term policy in Pakistan to have an undeclared Martial Law for the next several years with focus on the economic revival. Pakistan's benefactors are tired of bailing Pakistan out every few years and so what we have is going to persist for many years: A façade of 'democracy' with focus on reviving the economy.
Pakistan had come very close to a fiscal default just 3-4 years ago, which would have horrible consequences for Pakistan given Pakistan's very vulnerable geopolitical location, which this forum should know all too well.

Before the end of Trump’s term, I’m sure the the corp commanders will have to see where the wind is blowing and shuffle the deck to play the geopolitical situation they see emerging.

Btw on the Indians and the Tibetan op on behalf of the Americans; as the Dalai Lama prepares for his eventual morality to close out his rule, that maybe one failed point of Indian usefulness that the US is also accounting for.

 

[FuturePAF]

That’s been the pattern for since 1947.

But, unlike many others, I wouldn’t judge Pakistan for this.

They can do whatever, floats their boat. If this system works for Pakistan, then so be it.

It works for the generals, which is why there are large protests over the country. No one likes uncertainty, and while Pakistan looks turbulent, it is wobbling its way towards some balance, geopolitically and domestically.

 

[Taimoor]

Imran Khan’s failure as a leader was largely due to his lack of understanding of how international politics works. He was more focused on pleasing the local audience with populist statements, even if it meant damaging Pakistan's relationships with other countries.

Under Imran Khan, even ties with long-time ally Saudi Arabia weakened so much that the Army Chief had to step in. That’s a clear sign of failed diplomacy and poor leadership.

Such short-sighted behavior—driven by vote politics and local popularity—comes at a heavy cost on the global stage.

A true national leader cannot afford to act that way. Diplomacy requires restraint, strategy, and long-term thinking. Without that, failure is inevitable

You Indians are like frogs in the well. You understanding is very limited on how other nations deal with geopolitics, at best, you lot look at others as how you deal with your affairs .

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Now back to the topic.

 

[Taimoor]

'Don't burn ties with India': Nikki Haley accuses Trump of favouring China while threatening Delhi over Russian oil​

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https://www.moneycontrol.com/world/don-t-burn-ties-with-india-nikki-haley-accuses-trump-of-favouring-china-while-threatening-delhi-over-russian-oil-article-13397065.html

These Indians masqurading as Americans/westerns are feeling the pain. Wonder where is rishi ki pisshi the so called ex PM of UK these days? He was very active in supporting India during May hostilities.

 

[Taimoor]

India ‘pretends to be a friend’ while blocking US goods & 'cheating' on immigration, says Trump aide

Don't screw with Trump. Pakistan should nominate Trump for the Nobel Prize.

This "cheating on immigration" comment is very interesting. Have a feeling H1B days are coming to an end and this will have cascading impact on other western economies.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

The other approach is to make India's policy inconsistent like burger flipper.

If Modi is going down, then they will elect Rahul Gandhi of the Congress, another clown whose puppeteer is the US Democrat.

From a Pakistani perspective, Congress is a real long-term challenge . They are very patient.

BJP on the other hand is only a threat, not a challenge that Pakistan can't manage. Just like how we've managed their policy to isolate Pakistan internationally. They seem bamboozled.

 

[El Sidd]

But, mark my words - India isn’t going down this fight easily.

It's the world's largest democracy going up against the most powerful democracy.

There seems to be tacit support for Indian resistance against USA from organisations like BRICS.

India has called out the bluff that America reigns supreme as the sole superpower of the world.