Turkish Naval Programs

[Echelon1]

Go crash Israel first,tough guy. But you chicken there.

“Patience is very important. An Emir should know to be patient. A flower does not bloom before its time. A raw pear cannot be eaten, even if it is eaten, it would stuck in your throat. A sword without knowledge is like a raw pear…” Sheikh Edebali

 

[Foinikas]

“Patience is very important. An Emir should know to be patient. A flower does not bloom before its time. A raw pear cannot be eaten, even if it is eaten, it would stuck in your throat. A sword without knowledge is like a raw pear…” Sheikh Edebali

Man,come on. MMM-E used to say Turkey can take on Greece,Egypt,Israel at the same time some 2-3 years ago. He kept insisting Turkey can destroy Israel easily. It's all nonsense. Naval programs are good,but when you have a guy who isn't willing to admit any weaknesses,there's not much to discuss.

 

[Echelon1]

Man,come on. MMM-E used to say Turkey can take on Greece,Egypt,Israel at the same time some 2-3 years ago. He kept insisting Turkey can destroy Israel easily. It's all nonsense. Naval programs are good,but when you have a guy who isn't willing to admit any weaknesses,there's not much to discuss.

I don't know about MMM-E. It's just my thought on Israel, why not? Possible when it's time. Our region and people are ready for it.

 

[MMM-E]

Do you even have that in service right now?

Yes its in service right now

are FDI Frigate and MdCN Missile in invertory right now ?

 

[Foinikas]

Yes its in service right now

are FDI Frigate and MdCN Missile in invertory right now ?

Shoot down Akinci,solve the problem.

 

[MMM-E]

MMM-E used to say Turkey can take on Greece,Egypt,Israel at the same time some 2-3 years ago

When all Turkish major military projects enter service then its okey

-- KAAN , KIZILELMA , ANKA-3/4 manned - unmanned stealth Fighter Jets
-- SUNGUR , GURZ , HISAR , GOKDEMIR , SIPER Air Defense Systems ( STEEL DOME )
-- HAVASOJ , IHASOJ , AEWC
-- National Global Position System
-- 1500 km early warning AESA Radar and Space based SAR Radar
-- 8 ISTIF Frigates , 10 HISAR OPVs , 10 FACs and 8 TF-2000 Destroyers
-- REIS ( Type214TN ) and MILDEN class AIP Submarines
-- NUKDEN class nuclear Submarine
-- 285 m MUGEM Aircraft Carrier
-- 232 m TCG ANADOLU Amphibious Assault Ship
-- 185+ and 200+ km ramjet powered Air to Air Missiles GOKBORA and GOKHAN
-- RAMJET powered supersonic anti-ship Missiles
-- SCRAMJET powered Hypersonic Missiles
-- 500+ km 300-ER supersonic air launched Ballistic Missile
-- 1.000 , 2.000 km Cruise and Ballistic Missiles GEZGIN , TAYFUN B4 , CENK
-- 1.500+ km Hypersonic anti-ship Ballistic Missile with speed of mach 10
-- 100 km heavyweight Torpedo with 1.000 kg thermobaric warhead
-- Unmanned combat and kamikaze Vessels
and many more


Also if USA-Germany not blocking sale of advanced weapons to Turkiye like F-35A , F-35B , F-16V , Eurofighter

Who are you to deal with Türkiye ? which has bigger GDP than Greece+Egypt+Israel combined

 

[MMM-E]

Shoot down Akinci,solve the problem.

Your Frigates armed with only 30-50 km SAMs
AKINCI UCAVs armed with 60 - 100 - 150 - 180 - 200 km missiles / guided munitions

also 300+ TB-2 , TB-3 , ANKA , AKSUNGUR UCAVs to fire hundreds of missiles / guided munitions for swarm attack to eliminate Greek Frigates' air defense missiles


btw Turkish F-16 Fighter Jets carry KGK-82 Bombs with range of 110 km

soon KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 unmanned stealth Fighter Jets also will carry KGK-82 Bombs with RF seeker for anti-ship role

Greek Frigates can not survive even one day

 

[Foinikas]

When all Turkish major military projects enter service then its okey

-- KAAN , KIZILELMA , ANKA-3/4 manned - unmanned stealth Fighter Jets
-- SUNGUR , GURZ , HISAR , GOKDEMIR , SIPER Air Defense Systems ( STEEL DOME )
-- HAVASOJ , IHASOJ , AEWC
-- National Global Position System
-- 1500 km early warning AESA Radar and Space based SAR Radar
-- 8 ISTIF Frigates , 10 HISAR OPVs , 10 FACs and 8 TF-2000 Destroyers
-- REIS ( Type214TN ) and MILDEN class AIP Submarines
-- NUKDEN class nuclear Submarine
-- 285 m MUGEM Aircraft Carrier
-- 232 m TCG ANADOLU Amphibious Assault Ship
-- 185+ and 200+ km ramjet powered Air to Air Missiles GOKBORA and GOKHAN
-- RAMJET powered supersonic anti-ship Missiles
-- SCRAMJET powered Hypersonic Missiles
-- 500+ km 300-ER supersonic air launched Ballistic Missile
-- 1.000 , 2.000 km Cruise and Ballistic Missiles GEZGIN , TAYFUN B4 , CENK
-- 1.500+ km Hypersonic anti-ship Ballistic Missile with speed of mach 10
-- 100 km heavyweight Torpedo with 1.000 kg thermobaric warhead
-- Unmanned combat and kamikaze Vessels
and many more


Also if USA-Germany not blocking sale of advanced weapons to Turkiye like F-35A , F-35B , F-16V , Eurofighter

Who are you to deal with Türkiye ? which has bigger GDP than Greece+Egypt+Israel combined

Who is Turkey's opponent with all that shit

 

[MMM-E]

Turkish technology rules the war tactics


unmanned kamikaze vessels with warhead of 200 kg to sink enemy Warships


For the first time in the world, a swarm attack was carried out with the USV-UAV joint operation

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Game changer variant which can able to maneuver underwater
armed with 1.000 kg thermobaric warhead

 

[Foinikas]

I don't know about MMM-E. It's just my thought on Israel, why not? Possible when it's time. Our region and people are ready for it.

I agree with you on principle and if you don't know MMM-E's claims here and on the old PDF,then I understand.

 

[MMM-E]

I agree with you on principle and if you don't know MMM-E's claims here and on the old PDF,then I understand.

I always was right as like network centric warfare capabililty for BVR combat and you always spammed my informative claims

but the latest conflict between India and Pakistan proved that I was right

Now you're doing the same thing .. ok no problem ...
You can dream on 30 EXOCET Missiles for a victory against the Turkish Armed Forces

in a conflict , you also will wake up from your fantasy world just like the Indians did a few months ago

 

[Foinikas]

I always was right as like network centric warfare capabililty for BVR combat and you always spammed my informative claims

but the latest conflict between India and Pakistan proved that I was right

Now you're doing the same thing .. ok no problem ...
You can dream on 30 EXOCET Missiles for a victory against the Turkish Armed Forces

in a conflict , you also will wake up from your fantasy world just like the Indians did a few months ago

The problem with you is that you never accept another opinion. You always present the Turkish Armed Forces as unbeatable and you always imagine that in any theoretical scenario,all enemy missiles or attacks will fail,while all Turkish ones will succeed. That makes you unable to discuss with anyone in a civilized way.

 

[MMM-E]

The problem with you is that you never accept another opinion. You always present the Turkish Armed Forces as unbeatable and you always imagine that in any theoretical scenario,all enemy missiles or attacks will fail,while all Turkish ones will succeed. That makes you unable to discuss with anyone in a civilized way.

If you still dream of winning against thousands of Turkish-made missiles and guided munitions with 30 EXOCET missiles, I have nothing to say.

300+ Turkish UCAVs to carry over 2.000 missiles - guided munitions

even only one Turkish System is enough for a victory
Hypersonic anti-ship Ballistic Missile with speed of mach 10 based on TAYFUN B4 Missile which will enter the inventory in 2025

and your upcoming FDI Frigates can not stop it ..



I'm not selling dreams to you . but I'm telling you the truth
now Turkish Navy ( Frigates ) have more SAMs than Hellenic+Egyptian Navies combined

when 8 ISTIF Frigates and 8 TF-2000 Destroyers enter service , Turkish Navy will have more SAMs than Hellenic+Egyptian+French Navies combined

 

[Foinikas]

If you still dream of winning against thousands of Turkish-made missiles and guided munitions with 30 EXOCET missiles, I have nothing to say.

300+ Turkish UCAVs to carry over 2.000 missiles - guided munitions

even only one Turkish System is enough for a victory
Hypersonic anti-ship Ballistic Missile with speed of mach 10 based on TAYFUN B4 Missile which will enter the inventory in 2025

and your upcoming FDI Frigates can not stop it ..



I'm not selling dreams to you . but I'm telling you the truth
now Turkish Navy ( Frigates ) have more SAMs than Hellenic+Egyptian Navies combined

when 8 ISTIF Frigates and 8 TF-2000 Destroyers enter service , Turkish Navy will have more SAMs than Hellenic+Egyptian+French Navies combined

Man,our doctrine is purely defensive. Yours is offensive. Everybody knows Greece and Turkey have a big gap military and economically,but the way you talk is neither realistic nor truthful. It is fanboyism. Because you always pick the best scenario for Turkey.

And I'll tell you why it's unrealistic. You think that Turkey will unleash more than 300 UCAVs armed to the max with missiles and guided munitions,all at the same time? Then you take your hypothetical hypersonic ballistic missile which MIGHT enter inventory in 2025 and think you won the war already.

Then you go on with the usual bull about "more sams". "when 8 istif and 8 TF-2000 enter service...more SAMs" etc. etc.

You still haven't learned that naval battles are not won by SAM. And what if your SAM is trash quality? What if your radar is trash? Let's just say your systems are not as good as you make them out to be. What good will ALL THE SAMS IN THE WORLD do to you?

You're taking the best outcome for Turkey and always think that enemy missiles will fail 100% while Turkish missiles will always succeed 100%.

 

[MMM-E]

And I'll tell you why it's unrealistic. You think that Turkey will unleash more than 300 UCAVs armed to the max with missiles and guided munitions,all at the same time?

No need even 300 UCAVs
just 100 UCAVs are enough ....... because we will use also Fighter Jets , ground based Missiles , Warships , Submarines and unmanned combat - kamikaze Vessels at the same time

Hellenic Air Force has only 30 EXOCET anti-ship Missiles .... nothing else

Turkiye has thousands of ground and air launched Missiles / guided munitions like CAKIR , ATMACA , SOM , TOLUN-IIR , KUZGUN , 300-ER , EREN , ALPAGUT , SUPER SIMSEK , MAM-T IIR , KGK-IHA-82 , IHA-230 , KEMANKES , SLAM-ER , also soon GEZGIN , TAYFUN B4 , AKBABA , RAMJET powered super sonic anti-ship Missiles


even if we lost a few Frigates , still whole Hellenic Navy will be destroyed

I always remind you that Turkiye has the best fire power in NATO with USA