Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

@Sinnerman108

She is YOUR pilot, and you have not been able to show her in your own country.

If she is in your custody, how can we? You can release her and prove a point to the whole world.

Regards
Curious when any one from the Pakistani defence establishment claimed that not-so-impressive "lady" was in our custody.
In fact that "lady" is very likely a propaganda prop. She was never a pilot, or anything else: other than probably a sanitation worker in the air-base billets.
The enemy has a habit of putting dubious female characters in uniform to showcase gender equality.
The fact that she has disappeared entirely is probably due to a fall out on remuneration paid out to her in the acting role, and she found a better paying job as an extra in the Bollywood pot boilers. There is no record of any lady by this name in the NDA graduation batch or in the Airforce Academy at Begumpet,
 
(Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Mao Ning’s remarks on 7 November 2024)

New York Times: I have two questions. First, Mr. Trump has said he would impose across-the-board tariffs on Chinese goods. How will China respond? Second, Mr. Trump has stated that China will not “invade” Taiwan. What is your comment?

Mao Ning: On your first question, we do not answer hypothetical questions. As a matter of principle, let me reiterate that there will be no winner in a trade war, and it will not benefit the world.

On your second question, the Taiwan question is the most important and most sensitive issue at the heart of China-U.S. relations. China firmly opposes any form of official exchanges and interactions between the United States and Taiwan. This position is consistent and clear-cut. The U.S. government should strictly abide by the One-China principle and the provisions of the three China-U.S. joint communiqués, handle Taiwan-related issues with prudence, and avoid causing serious damage to China-U.S. relations and peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait.


http://us.china-embassy.gov.cn/lcbt/wjbfyrbt/202411/t20241107_11522924.htm
 
As I’ve already mentioned, whether it’s India or Pakistan, neither government nor military will ever openly admit their losses—whether it’s one aircraft or ten. That’s just the reality of how both sides operate. Pakistan will never accept or acknowledge their losses during the war.

The only real way to counter false claims is with evidence. If Pakistan now claims, three months later, that it has video proof, then the simplest way to end the debate is to release it publicly. That would directly challenge Modi and put Indian media in a spot. It’s the easiest solution—show the evidence.
Very well-said there. They should just release evidence and stop playing.
 
I’ve seen those discussions, and what was said is that the government should provide details to silence Pakistan’s claims. But at no point did anyone acknowledge Pakistan’s version as correct, nor did they accept it.

As I’ve already mentioned, whether it’s India or Pakistan, neither government nor military will ever openly admit their losses—whether it’s one aircraft or ten. That’s just the reality of how both sides operate. Pakistan will never accept or acknowledge their losses during the war.

The only real way to counter false claims is with evidence. If Pakistan now claims, three months later, that it has video proof, then the simplest way to end the debate is to release it publicly. That would directly challenge Modi and put Indian media in a spot. It’s the easiest solution—show the evidence.

Look at the Indian government’s approach: when they struck targets in Pakistan, they released evidence of the damage. But when it comes to claims of shooting down Pakistani fighters, they’ve provided no proof. And honestly, even as an Indian, I can’t trust such claims without evidence.

The same standard should apply to Pakistan. If their government claims to have shot down Indian aircraft, then it’s on them to present credible evidence. Without it, why would anyone accept those claims?

Independent sources in India have already confirmed the loss of three aircraft—that much seems credible. But if Pakistan wants to go beyond that number, they’ll need to back it up with proof. Otherwise, it’s difficult for anyone to take those extra claims seriously
You are playing words gymnastics again, as usual.
Instead of good a full paragraph you could have answer shortly. But it's a good way to dodge the real answer.
Well we have seen vidoes of at least 4 different IAF jets downed and you guys are still at denial. I am not inya illusion that you guys will accept if more videos are released.
Denial is in your DNA.
 
I’ve seen those discussions, and what was said is that the government should provide details to silence Pakistan’s claims. But at no point did anyone acknowledge Pakistan’s version as correct, nor did they accept it.

As I’ve already mentioned, whether it’s India or Pakistan, neither government nor military will ever openly admit their losses—whether it’s one aircraft or ten. That’s just the reality of how both sides operate. Pakistan will never accept or acknowledge their losses during the war.

The only real way to counter false claims is with evidence. If Pakistan now claims, three months later, that it has video proof, then the simplest way to end the debate is to release it publicly. That would directly challenge Modi and put Indian media in a spot. It’s the easiest solution—show the evidence.

Look at the Indian government’s approach: when they struck targets in Pakistan, they released evidence of the damage. But when it comes to claims of shooting down Pakistani fighters, they’ve provided no proof. And honestly, even as an Indian, I can’t trust such claims without evidence.

The same standard should apply to Pakistan. If their government claims to have shot down Indian aircraft, then it’s on them to present credible evidence. Without it, why would anyone accept those claims?

Independent sources in India have already confirmed the loss of three aircraft—that much seems credible. But if Pakistan wants to go beyond that number, they’ll need to back it up with proof. Otherwise, it’s difficult for anyone to take those extra claims seriously

They will be released whenever Pakistan deems right.
 
You should also mentioned about the cowardly attacks you did 0045 minutes to 0060 minutes after the ceasefire was implemented, again to Bholari and couple of other installations, both military and PAF.

To which, we notified Rubio and told him we'd respond in kind. He spoke to Trump and some channel back to India and told us if we can respect the ceasefire, they would appreciate it as it was on Trump's word due to mediation by the US. We respected it and stood down. The entire world saw our maturity and we were told by so many countries that they appreciated our efforts to control the escalation.

Mind you, that was the LAST time that maturity was shown. Next time, come at your own risk. The risk is from East to West this time.
We did that too Indian Kashmir's CM posted about it on X.
Also when modi was giving his we did it again I am interested in the Second wave of attacks can't ask panzerkiel for like an year.
 
Why is the interior minister doing the job of ISPR, Defence, Foreign and I&B Ministers, but not his own ? Shouldnt he be dealing with the flash floods that are ravaging his country ?
 
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Rambabu was from Army Aviation not IAF S-400.

Firstly, Rambabu died on 12 th May.

Secondly, he was attached to an Army Aviation Corps UAV detachment. The unit is mentioned here.

Third, S-400 isn’t a motor bike that anybody can operate them. How will an Army personal be part of S-400 crew?
 
So where are the wreckage of PAF jets
This joker is still raking it in by blabbering lies and nonsense that Indians want to listen .

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There was o dogfight over Srinagar.
The wreckage was of drones and Barak-8 missile parts.

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There was o dogfight over Srinagar.
The wreckage was of drones and Barak-8 missile parts.

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You Dumb Ass Indian, do you even know what a dog fight is?
 

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