Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

The number could very well be around 10-12. Another important aspect which is being ignored is - what did PAF want to shoot primarily? The answer is Rafale.

They had more planes locked and had they chosen not to discriminate between whether it was a Rafale or any other aircraft. The number on kills would be higher with same numbers of PL-15s fired. One example is that recent article stating how one Rafale managed to land back safely despite a near proximity hit.

The Rafale still has way better protection capabilities even in the terminal stage. Although they didn’t know when they were being locked and shot at however when PL-15s turned on its own seekers. The Rafales definitely knew. So yes, there were certain instances where Rafale did dodge PL-15.

I could give you a real example as well with location but let's just leave it 😊
It is really dodging though if you still get hit by proximity and forced to land? Aircraft likely written off.

What will be interesting is how aerial warfare is going to be once both sides are matched, both networked with capable BVR missiles, is it going to be a battle of simply attrition?
 
It is really dodging though if you still get hit by proximity and forced to land? Aircraft likely written off.

No - im talking about couple other instances.

What will be interesting is how aerial warfare is going to be once both sides are matched, both networked with capable BVR missiles, is it going to be a battle of simply attrition?

So far the IAF is lagging behind - im sure they are going to try on a serious note to fill in their gaps or perhaps next time they would rather choose not to display such bravados of putting up 70 aircrafts in air and sending many of them close to the border. However, the PAF would very much like to stay a step ahead of them.
 
They are preparing for strike in an area other than highlighted in recent NOTAMs.
Pakistan needs to get out of reactionary mode.

Why do we wait for Indians to first attack us before we attack them especially in the wake of all these persistent provocations. Pakistan needs to punish Indians the moment they show any signs of aggressiveness or threatening moves.

After getting punished and subsequent capitulation to Pakistan's counter attack in May, coward Hindutva terrorist Modi is continuously war mongering domestically and keeping the tensions with Pakistan simmering by continuously conducting provocative military exercises at Pakistan's borders.

A defeated and humiliated Modi might be trying to deplete Pak resources and engaging Pak military into a war of attrition. However, instead of playing Modi's ballgame, Pak needs to push the Hindutva coward into Pakistani game plan by hitting Indians in the belly first.

If Indians can stage exercises in one sector while planning to hit Pakistan in another one, why not Pakistanis take on them in their staging sector with a force that causes them real shock and awe and knocks them out before they could try to hit us.
 
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Dar on UK visit, taking no prisoners.

Dar says Pakistan buried India's false narrative of regional dominance

Terming Indian ruling leadership's rhetoric unfortunate, deputy PM advises them to accept defeat and move forward​

By
Murtaza Ali Shah
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August 20, 2025
Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Senator Ishaq Dar addressing a seminar. — PID/File
Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Senator Ishaq Dar addressing a seminar. — PID/File


  • DPM Dar says ceasefire was India’s request, not Pakistan’s.
  • Highlights Pakistan lost 90,000 lives, $192bn in war on terror.
  • Top diplomat says economy stabilising; PIA set to resume UK flights.








LONDON: Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Senator Mohammad Ishaq Dar said Pakistan had buried the false narrative propagated by the Indian media and government about its so-called hegemony and portrayal of India as the “net security provider” of the region.

Addressing a press conference in London after his official visit to the United Kingdom, and broadcast live on national TV channels, he said Pakistan had emerged victorious in its recent armed conflict with India, triggered by unprovoked Indian aggression.

“The Indian media and bureaucracy have acknowledged that their narrative proved unsuccessful. On the other hand, Pakistan’s narrative was based upon facts and truth, which was acknowledged by the world,” he added.

Dar said that after air superiority, Pakistan also settled scores with India on the ground.


He said Pakistan always stood for the respect, dignity, sovereignty and territorial integrity of all countries in the region and desired from others to do the same.

Terming Indian leaders’ statements unfortunate, he advised them to accept the defeat and move forward, stressing that Pakistan had not asked anyone to broker a ceasefire; rather, it was the Indian side that agreed to it and which was conveyed by US Secretary of State Rubio to him in the May conflict.

Dar, flanked by the Pakistan High Commission to the UK, Dr Mohammad Faisal, further said the incumbent government was committed to economic stability and prosperity, and its policies resulted in foreign reserves growth and inflation rates on a downward trend.

“Pakistan will emerge stronger. Unity will take us forward if we want Pakistan to get its due place among the comity of nations, and to join D-20,” he observed.

He said that no one should tell Pakistan to hold talks on terrorism, as they were ‘the biggest victim of terrorism, Pakistan had fought the global war of terrorism, on the front foot and sacrificed 90,000 lives besides suffering colossal losses to the tune of $192 billion in that war, he said, stressing that the world had to recognize these sacrifices, Pakistan had rendered huge sacrifices.

He said during the year 2014, terrorism had been eliminated from the country during former premier Nawaz Sharif’s tenure.

About their official visits to various countries, he said their efforts were aimed at projecting Pakistan’s candid stance on various issues, including the scourge of terrorism.

He opined that due to these efforts, the US had proscribed BLA and Majeed Brigade as international terrorist outfits who had been involved in different terrorism incidents, including train hijacking in Balochistan. Dar also advised the Pakistani diaspora not to indulge in petty politics on different national issues.

“After Indian aggression, we adopted a unanimous resolution in the parliament condemning it strongly, which also gave a message to the world about the unity of the nation,” he added.

Dar further underlined the need for the nation should move in unison to take the country on the track of progress.

To a question, he said it was unfortunate, PIA had been earning billions of rupees in revenue when it was grounded, and it took years to revive the national flag carrier.

He welcomed the EU’s decision to lift the ban on PIA in November 2024 and said the UK also followed suit. PIA authorities were in negotiation with the UK authorities to resume flights to Manchester in September under a tentative programme, which could later be expanded to London.

Dar also termed his bilateral and trilateral meetings with the UK counterparts and authorities very productive, in which all spectrums of the bilateral ties were discussed, including the Kashmir dispute and climate change, etc.

 
Good thing India has even worse clowns making absurd claims

I didnt know Pakistan made chocolates ? Ie I mean our own brands

 

PAF Inducts Bombardier Global 6000 Advanced Electronic Warfare Jet, Extends Strategic Reach Beyond 500km​


 

PAF Inducts Bombardier Global 6000 Advanced Electronic Warfare Jet, Extends Strategic Reach Beyond 500km​


Now Pakistan can blind 500 plus kms radars of enemy.
 

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