Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Hack-Hook]

You know I have no love for the Russians, in fact I hate Russian politicians to be more precise, but would he do the same if he was meeting with Macron, for example?

What had Lukashenko done to him? lol

Are you sure he was late for that visit

 

[Sarhang]

Tell me how did Israeli jets drop those bombs precisely on those areas if they didn’t penetrate the airspace?

The copium on here is that no Israeli jets got deep within Iran. And that everything was drones, internal crews, and BMs lobbed from Iraq. I don’t believe that copium one bit.

Yea but these are the same guys that gave a large, sophisticated country like Iran a militia alike army. They cut the wings of the IRIAF and reduced everything to militia group tactics and weaponry.

The same ones who glorified human wave attacks on Iraqi positions claiming thousands of innocent lives like it was nothing. These people are completely nuts, they have hijacked the country and they need to be removed before they destroy Iran.

 

[ShapurII]

They need to be removed before they destroy Iran.

Too late for that. These fools can no longer be removed from power without consequences.

 

[Persian Gulf]

that's for the dinner party
the official answer was he was not present at the party due to alcohol being served there

this woman can attend but our heart surgeon cannot ? and he can't take the photo and then leave? or simply request not to drink alcohol ? this excuse doesn't add up.

 

[Immortals]

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[Qaraca]

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Israel had been practicing this for years. Attacking from Azeribajian. Raisi was also killed while flying over the mountains in that same region.

Iran spent so much time and effort focused on the Western border of Iran that they left North/Northwest border regions weak to intrusion.

The attack on Shahrud during the True Promise events also was rumored to have been cruise missiles coming from Caspian Sea.

The fact that had not completely saturated that region with radars and jammers shows the gross incompetence of this government.

Larijani, Secretary of the Supreme National Security Council:

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[Persian Gulf]

Larijani, Secretary of the Supreme National Security Council:

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the reality is that if this was true Iranian radars should have picked it up and we could have presented the evidence by now

if we don't have evidence we should just ask why none of our radars worked instead

 

[Shafagh]

— / NEW: The Telegraph reports that Iran has various 'ultra-secure' underground nuclear sites that are even more resistant to strikes than the infamous Fordow facility, which the U.S. struck with B-2 stealth bombers back in June

In specific, they point to a mountain complex located near the enrichment facility at Natanz, which is reportedly more than 160 meters deep, almost twice as deep as Fordow, which took a dozen GBU-57 'MOP' bunker busters to destroy — with the results of the strike still heavily debated to this day.

The Telegraph writes that 'Pickaxe mountain' could be a perfect hiding spot for Iran's highly enriched uranium, and that the tunnels are so deep and so hardened that they could even survive a nuclear blast.

Iran also has another ultra deep facility near the uranium conversion facility at Esfahan, which the United States failed to destroy during their strikes on the complex back in June.

@Middle_East_Spectator

 

[kastor ville]

He was widely reported to be a candidate for next supreme leader. His death proceeded the pager attack on Hezbollah. Raisi also had such a pager.



3 helicopters went into that fog, yet only hit the mountain. These helicopters including Raisi’s were piloted by some of Iran’s best helicopter pilots.

If Raisi was killed by Israel, Iran would never admit it. Just like how Tehrani Moghdamm was murdered as well and his brother even said it and was forced by this incompetent government to retract it.

If they admitted Israel killed the President then they would have to go to war and if they didn’t….well you would realize how useless and weak they are.

Do you think in this day and age, if a projectile, or a bomb brought down that chopper, people like me who investigate aircraft accidents wouldn't be able to tell?
This is how conspiracy theories run amok....when people who lack the necessary knowledge about an issue come up with a hypothesis, even if that hypothesis is highly improbable. There are people who still think the 9/11 Pentagon bombing was not done by an Arab terrorist...they dispute the aircraft hitting it, saying it was a coverup by the US govt. Never mind that we have radar evidence and missing aircraft and its debris. Oh, also the fact it happened on 9/11 at the same time as the world trade center attack.....what can you say? When you nutjobs that like this kind of stuff. Now if you ask me about the Lebanon port explosion, I would 100% agree that was Israel....why? Because it's highly plausible, they have spies in Lebanon and they had prior knowledge of all of that seized fertilizer sitting there for years. It could even be that it was an Israeli operation that sent it there, and then refused to pay for the cargo, knowing it would be seized. But the fact that they knew Raisi would be on that chopper and that there would be heavy fog on that day and that hour, and they somehow positioned assets in the area at the right time to take that one chopper down and leave the other 2 untouched, is too much. The last part is my first argument, most airframes will show explosion marks,.fragmentation shards, even chemicals signatures on the metal and entry points....there are many forensics tests we can conduct to see if there are traces of TNT, Semtex, C4, RDX..etc

 

[Persian Gulf]

— / NEW: The Telegraph reports that Iran has various 'ultra-secure' underground nuclear sites that are even more resistant to strikes than the infamous Fordow facility, which the U.S. struck with B-2 stealth bombers back in June

In specific, they point to a mountain complex located near the enrichment facility at Natanz, which is reportedly more than 160 meters deep, almost twice as deep as Fordow, which took a dozen GBU-57 'MOP' bunker busters to destroy — with the results of the strike still heavily debated to this day.

The Telegraph writes that 'Pickaxe mountain' could be a perfect hiding spot for Iran's highly enriched uranium, and that the tunnels are so deep and so hardened that they could even survive a nuclear blast.

Iran also has another ultra deep facility near the uranium conversion facility at Esfahan, which the United States failed to destroy during their strikes on the complex back in June.

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this article is more than a month old and that facility in Natanz has been under construction for many years and is not active yet

sounds like they are trying to create justification for round 2

 

[Immortals]

the reality is that if this was true Iranian radars should have picked it up and we could have presented the evidence by now

if we don't have evidence we should just ask why none of our radars worked instead

Because an F-35 with its RCS you aren’t reliably picking it up till maybe 50KM away assuming no jamming or ECW/EW by the enemy. And Azerbaijan with it’s weak IADS doesn’t have the capability to even know if F-35 came into its airspace.

So you could have F-35 penetrate thru Iraq terrain hugging thru northern iran into Armenia and Azeribajian and release their payloads over the Caspian towards Tehran and its surrounding then leave.


Even Patarames claims that Israel was using its stealth drone bomber over Caspian to launch 200KM ranged cruise missiles.

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[StrategicBear]

Round 2 must be decisive so Iran must hit back with everything it has. Let them regret even thinking about it.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Because an F-35 with its RCS you aren’t reliably picking it up till maybe 50KM away assuming no jamming or ECW/EW by the enemy. And Azerbaijan with it’s weak IADS doesn’t have the capability to even know if F-35 came into its airspace.

So you could have F-35 penetrate thru Iraq terrain hugging thru northern iran into Armenia and Azeribajian and release their payloads over the Caspian towards Tehran and its surrounding then leave.
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Even Patarames claims that Israel was using its stealth drone bomber over Caspian to launch 200KM ranged cruise missiles.

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we're talking about drones not f-35

the claim was that Iranian border guards saw drones enter Iran from Azerbaijan

 

[Immortals]

Do you think in this day and age, if a projectile, or a bomb brought down that chopper, people like me who investigate aircraft accidents wouldn't be able to tell?

Why do you assume the only way that chopper was brought down by bomb or projectile? Do you think if Mossad was going to do such an operation on a world leader they would pick such an obvious tactic? And the ones who did investigation were who? IRGC and its affiliates? Was black box recording ever released?

The facts are 3 helicopters went into the same fog at the same time. And all the other pilots managed to navigate it just fine except the presidents.

Do you also believe that Rafsjani died from a heart attack in his pool?

Do you also believe the port explosion (similar to Beruit) that took place weeks before the war was also human error?

 

[Shafagh]

Round 2 must be decisive so Iran must hit back with everything it has. Let them regret even thinking about it.

Yep. This tit for tat 10 missiles a day crap isn't going to deter anything.