Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

we're talking about drones not f-35

the claim was that Iranian border guards saw drones enter Iran from Azerbaijan

Yes and the Shahrud attack their were similar claims of CMs coming from Caspian/Azeribajian

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Simply look where Sharud is on a map:
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Israel with the help of U.S. space based surveillance can see radar emissions of every single point inside Iran when Iran has powerful radars turned on blasting radiation in all directions and can then calculate where the holes are and how close fighter jets can get.

The fact is Caspian Sea and Northwestern Iran is too exposed and Iran’s mountainous terrain only helps the enemy
 
Yep. This tit for tat 10 missiles a day crap isn't going to deter anything.

Moving 200+ TELS around is too obvious to LEO spy satellites especially when the enemy knows where many of them originate out of (mountain airbases).

20 years ago the technology wasn’t there or simply too expensive to utilize, but in 2025 it is. And they been practicing their skills last 3 years in the Ukraine/Russia war. Look how many S-300/S-400 Russia lost so far. Also consider how Ukraine knew where the holes in Russian air defense systems were to target deeper into Russia.
 
If you look at that organization—the size of its population and the share of global GDP it represents—a rational Iranian government would be working around the clock to cultivate relationships and present Iran as a responsible global partner capable of bilateral trade and business. Instead, Iran has virtually no meaningful engagement with the West, aside from embezzled funds being stashed in Western banks.
You would think a high level of intellect from a so-called heart surgeon. He looks to me like a retard. I was watching a clip and he was standing on stage where he was praying like an idiot. don’t misunderstand what I’m saying. Prayer is fantastic. Faith is undeniable strength which leads ones moral compass amongst other things, but to stand in a world stage where you’re being presented and you put your head up to the sky and you’re praying ?this guy is a coke can short of a six pack. his elevator doesn’t go to the top floor.
As I said, a shameful idiot. Our Joe Biden, without pedophilia tendencies.
And he ain't the only one............
The sooner the IRGC takes over with nationalists backup the better.......
 
the reality is that if this was true Iranian radars should have picked it up and we could have presented the evidence by now

if we don't have evidence we should just ask why none of our radars worked instead
I think of that more as a way to defuse tensions, let's see what happens once they attack again
 
This is a different day...
Where is pezeshkian in this picture?
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He arrived late when everyone else showed up the day before. He also showed up late to meet Lukashenko when he went to Belarus and said it was because he was busy. It is a deliberate sign of disrespect.
That son of a wh........ should be discharged then hanged
 
The sooner the IRGC takes over with nationalists backup the better.......
Whether this happens or not, there needs to be some sort of compromise with the west in order to buy time.

Otherwise Israel will just continue attacking. If they attack once, hir them very hard, then negotiate a settlement before it escalates, drawing the U.S. in. Israelis are bitches, they will ask daddy U.S.A to intervene after just 48 hours of fighting.
 
Hang that idiot and remove reformists and dead brains from the parliament..... let them go defend LGBT rights abroad, it'll be much more secure for us all.
You cannot blame just reformists for this mess. Conservatives didn't prepare sufficiently either. Instead they played stupid games with hijab nonsense, pissing off the young people, creating completely unnecessary domestic unrest. Fortunately, they learned and things are changing. However, at this point, it is evident both conservatives and reformists are to blame.
 
another repeat of lies
he actually visit China, Russia and Turkish presidents and take some photos with Pakistan president
Hey Hack-Hook, when i posted that comment, I also gave a link to the latest IRNA website and till then there was nothing of Pezeshkian otherwise it would have been posted in the official media !!!
 
You cannot blame just reformists for this mess. Conservatives didn't prepare sufficiently either. Instead they played stupid games with hijab nonsense, pissing off the young people, creating completely unnecessary domestic unrest. Fortunately, they learned and things are changing. However, at this point, it is evident both conservatives and reformists are to blame.
And they passed the JCPOA in 20 minutes.
Let's not overlook the fact that the parliament that passed the JCPOA, with the snapback mechanism inside it, was dominated by the conservatives.
 
And they passed the JCPOA in 20 minutes.
Let's not overlook the fact that the parliament that passed the JCPOA, with the snapback mechanism inside it, was dominated by the conservatives.

It’s the whole system, much like the USSR if the system doesn’t work then everything decays. It’s not reformists, conservatives, Mullahs, etc it’s the collective at the end of the day. The reformists didn’t tell IRGC to neglect the airforce. They didn’t tell IRGC to build a ventilation shaft exposed to aerial bombers. They didn’t tell them to limit missile range to 2000KM and build everything in the west. Everyone made their own respective mistakes the past couple decades.

IR of Iran survived as long as it did from oil revenues (European/Asian nations didn’t cut Iranian oil till 2008 and beyond).

The rise of fracking oil technology also hurt iran in many ways because suddenly the U.S. was #1 in oil production and the Middle East no longer had a choke hold on oil. This meant the U.S. didn’t need the Middle East precious resource as desperately as it did in the 1970’s and 80’d. This was obvious by the Red Sea traffic being down 85% and Israel and Iran exchanging blows and oil not even crossing $90/barrel.

I am not sure if the IRI could even imagine such a day could come when it’s energy supply would be bought by only one country (China).

Right now Iran is becoming like Iraq under Saddam, Syria under imposed revolution, Afghanistan under Taliban, etc the system is barely holding it together and people are just SURVIVING not thriving. Sure Iran has made its share of advancements (Iranian ingenuity), but there is so much corruption and self inflicted wounds, we can’t all blame it on sanctions.

We have fallen behind in critical fields of the future like nuclear, fusion, semiconductor, AI hyperscalers, robotics, and more. With no strategic alliances (say China) we have no one to take our hand and raise us up economically, like the U.S. did to Japan and Korea after WW2 and Korean War respectively.

The resistance economy failed miserably, the IRGC alumni and the big factions used their power to enrich themselves from sanctions busting and supplying the people goods. Rather than squeezing other countries for money they squeezed the people.

Toman today is 100x worse off than 20 years ago (100,000 vs 900). This whole thing is unsustainable.

I think reformists are no different then the voices in the USSR that realized fighting the West and spending like the Empire on things like space race and massive military footprints was not sustainable under a communist system that didn’t have the same innovation and industrial production density as the American empire.

Iran too is learning that it cannot stand up forever against the West and be shunned out of the global economy and expect to not decay and spiral downward on the backs of corruption and theft.

There were always only two real options:

1) fight a pre emptive war where you inflict enough damage on the enemy to demonstrate your strength and negotiate a permanent solution on equal footing (ie after Hamas October surprise or in 2020 before losing Solemani)

2) Capitulation and a grand agreement where you drop the animosity and reform and reintegrate. Khamenai never wanted this because an Iran that is at peace with America and Israel is a republic that cannot survive because its entire existence was predicted on perpetual Cold War like conflict with these two countries.

Nukes wouldn’t have solved either situation it would have only prolonged the problem and in the end you would have to negotiate your nukes away to get any tangible agreement like Ukraine did or turn into North Korea and become a hermit country.

Right now it appears Iran’s plan is to hope the U.S. collapses in the next 5 years or some incompetent leader comes in and bows to Iranian pressure. Neither seem realistic.

Getting nukes now wouldn’t get the sanctions or embargo off us, would likely make it worse. At best we would have to negotiate those away as well.
 
realistically when is the chance of next round happening in this conflict?
What's happening in the actual capitals and decision making?
 
And they passed the JCPOA in 20 minutes.
Let's not overlook the fact that the parliament that passed the JCPOA, with the snapback mechanism inside it, was dominated by the conservatives.
Some IRGC guy who initially said it was a good deal came out and said he thought that based on zarif's description of it lol. Very few majlisis read it and understood what it actually said. Only in Iran would a Parliament pass something they have no understanding of...
 
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The Guy with the "4th grade education" ,unlike the Surgeon, was able to keep the lights on!
Dig him and put him in the chair..... let's put all of those monkies in power....the best idea, that way we can speed up the implosion of the country.
 
Some IRGC guy who initially said it was a good deal came out and said he thought that based on zarif's description of it lol. Very few majlisis read it and understood what it actually said. Only in Iran would a Parliament pass something they have no understanding of...

Parliament in Iran is nothing more than a rubber stamp body, nothing happens unless the higher ups give their approval. It was going to pass the second Zarif and Company signed.
 

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