PA MLRS, Self Propelled and towed artillery [BM-11, Fatah-I GMLRS, Fatah-II] - News, Updates & Discussions

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Pakistan’s Heavy Industries Taxila (HIT) has marked another milestone by successfully developing the "Advance Infantry Mortar System (AIMS)" – a cutting-edge weapon designed to enhance the firepower, accuracy, and mobility of infantry units on the battlefield.

This new system is a major leap forward in modern artillery, offering improved targeting, rapid deployment, and precision strike capability. AIMS is built to support Pakistan Army’s evolving operational requirements in both conventional and asymmetric warfare, especially in mountainous and rugged terrains where traditional artillery faces limitations.
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The chases is really light, seems like its designed for a quick shoot and scoot type ops. I'd like to see MRAP's with this system for better protection of our soldiers.


I hope that HIT or GIDS are working on TOT of Type 625-E like SHORADS based on Buk or Pantsier. We need a local SHORAD and LOMAD mass produced urgently.
 
Michael said:
There is absolutely no similarity between the two, except for the same words in the names.

PA ARFC
It is a tactical force.
It is an independent unit under the PA (in this respect, it is somewhat similar to the PLAAF's Airborne Corps and the PLA Navy's Marine Corps).
It primarily uses MLRS and short-range missiles as its strike force.

PLARF
It is a strategic force.
It is an independent strategic force directly under the Central Military Commission. Since its inception, it has been a fourth service branch, operating in parallel with the PLAGF, PLA Navy, and PLAAF.
It primarily uses medium- and long-range missiles and intercontinental missiles as its strike force. It primarily relies on nuclear strikes, supplemented by strategic-level conventional strikes.

In the PLAGF, the MLRS is primarily deployed by group army artillery brigades.
It should be noted that the PLA does not currently have a dedicated short-range ballistic missile in its arsenal. However, the PLA's MLRS includes highly accurate and powerful guided rockets, as well as short-range tactical missiles launched from MLRS launchers.
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You are right, however if Pak Mils RF is armed with 750+km ranged land attack missiles we may see a slight upgrade and perhaps even a hypersonic or supersonic cm too... Id imagine them getting missiles like SMASH etc too.

MBRLs etc are part of artillery in Pak army and not a seperate arm/corps.
 
Sam6536 said:
Well BSF does use some camel mounted mortars divisions lol.

I don't know how do you stabilise it after each shot.
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:giggle: No different than mule trains we use for our artillery needs in high altitude. The camel/mule gets the mortar to the position, the actual firing etc. takes place on the ground.
 
Blain2 said:
System is platform agnostic. It is the capability of the mortar system itself that is being touted as "cutting edge".
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It would still not be "cutting edge" Such systems have existed for decades so what is the intention there?
 
I don't mind this system

Can we mount it on a heavier more armoured vehicle, sure.
But that would mean a cost increase and a larger,slower more fuel inefficient vehicle.

There is space for that kind of system and I'm not sure what we use to fulfill that role, but I think their is space for this type of lighter vehicle that can be deployed quickly, is faster and more maneuverable and can deliver a punch.


I am unhappy with HIT, POF marketing, it's generally very poor and we need to aggressively market these products to the global South where militaries from countries like Somalia or sudan or Kenya etc may require this type of cheaper system that's still useful
 
@Fatman17
Every military hardware have different task and purpose. Misuse and of it like for example fitting same hardware in every doctrine makes it bad.

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Light weight, mobile vehicles are much safer to use in rocky terrain rather then heavy, slow moving armour. Speed is your security. Likewise if you won't do route clearance of IED infested area with light skinned vehicles.
 
Blain2 said:
System is platform agnostic. It is the capability of the mortar system itself that is being touted as "cutting edge".
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Cutting edge could be marketing or perhaps it has a good, updated ballistics/FCS radar integrated. I don't know the details of the system itself but just suggesting the "cutting edge" does not come from the platform it is deployed on (Toyota Hi-Lux in this case). We could move this mortar system on mule trains and it would still be cutting edge if it delivers on the next generation mortar capability.
 
HRK said:
M113 integrated with somewhat Amos Artillery style turret develop inhouse would help full both in conventional role against India and in sub-conventional role in Balochistan and former FATA region
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The most fired ordnance in Ukraine is mortars(*citation needed) and the self propelled Polish and Finnish 120mm SP mortars are being delivered to Ukraine.

The Russians already deploy them as they had them in inventory.
 
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