Trump ally Charlie Kirk shot at campus event in Utah

[AZ_HighCountry]

No he was an israeli agent.

Have you any credible evidence to back up that assertion?

 

[Path-Finder]

Have you any credible evidence to back up that assertion?

My X feed is filled with israeli + diaspora praising him and he was on israeli side with the genocide in Palestine/Gaza.

 

[Abdul q]

Have you any credible evidence to back up that assertion?

AIPAC funding … go find out

 

[Starlord]

No I dont recall, But my point is something else! mass shootings aside do people in the US despite the mass shooting say they will give up their rights? No! is the answer.

just focusing on mass shootings when my point is something completely different. No one wants to be on the receiving end of a mass shooting in any place of public gathering.

BUT my point is its better to be a responsible armed society then an unarmed one. Any society like Palestinians in West Bank for example who are at the mercy of israeli c^nts who come from the arse hole of Russia and drive Palestinians out of their homes at gun point!

Or in former Yugoslavia, people I spoke to from there who survived the turmoil often say they were unarmed and got mowed down.

Many other examples exist in history. To reiterate, I am for a responsible armed society that keeps any invader in check and the gormint from being benign.

No, Americans won't give up their guns and that's the whole problem, you see that one bad guy with a automatic gun can do enough damage, you are saying this because you didn't lose anyone in a mass shooting, Trust me wife of Charlie right now would give up second amendment if her kids dad return home.

You think Israeli's would be deterred by Palestinians carrying AK's? Hamas has guns and we know that Israel just carpet bombed the entire Gaza so your logic is flawed, more guns in the hands of people will not help against the State. Even Syrians were losing the war with Asshead until foreign countries intervened and start supporting fighters with heavies.

Human beings are messed up in the head, and you don't need masses of people to be irresponsible with guns, all you take is few to cause the damage, you can not have a responsible society armed to the teeth with no mass shooting, unless you vet people strictly, even then people can snap easily and can cause massive bloodbath, I give you example of Christ Church mosques shooter, Vegas shooter, Norway bombing and shooting and list goes on.

If Gormint is evil and they want to take away rights of people they have plenty of ways to do so, and specially in western countries where politicians can easily be bought via money or a massage from a underage Child on a Island, recent laws in favor of Israel is prime example, if Govt wants something they don't have to use force they can do it by passing laws.

 

[Starlord]

No he was an israeli agent.

I don't think he was a Agent but he was Evangelical Christian who believe Jews must take control over all of holy land so his messiah aka white Jesus can return to kill 1/3rd of Jews and covert the rest, he hate Muslims and Arabs his hate stems from his Christian beliefs. The romance between the Christians and Jews is because they have a common enemy aka Muslims/Islam, Christians are losing their followers to Islam in America and west, Jews are using Christian support against Muslims until they are powerful enough to held their own, EU fault lines will be exploited by Israel once they are powerful enough, and they will do the same with America... Israel wants complete world dominance and sooner or later they will come face to face with America.

 

[FarhanSiddiqui]

Have you any credible evidence to back up that assertion?

AIPAC funding … go find out

One can identify an AIPAC Zionazi agent by observing that subject's habitual statements and podcasts.

 

[Asfandyar Bhittani]

Bear in mind it wasn't that old guy

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[Path-Finder]

No, Americans won't give up their guns and that's the whole problem, you see that one bad guy with a automatic gun can do enough damage, you are saying this because you didn't lose anyone in a mass shooting, Trust me wife of Charlie right now would give up second amendment if her kids dad return home.

You think Israeli's would be deterred by Palestinians carrying AK's? Hamas has guns and we know that Israel just carpet bombed the entire Gaza so your logic is flawed, more guns in the hands of people will not help against the State. Even Syrians were losing the war with Asshead until foreign countries intervened and start supporting fighters with heavies.

Human beings are messed up in the head, and you don't need masses of people to be irresponsible with guns, all you take is few to cause the damage, you can not have a responsible society armed to the teeth with no mass shooting, unless you vet people strictly, even then people can snap easily and can cause massive bloodbath, I give you example of Christ Church mosques shooter, Vegas shooter, Norway bombing and shooting and list goes on.

If Gormint is evil and they want to take away rights of people they have plenty of ways to do so, and specially in western countries where politicians can easily be bought via money or a massage from a underage Child on a Island, recent laws in favor of Israel is prime example, if Govt wants something they don't have to use force they can do it by passing laws.

I am going to bring the conversation back down to earth. you can have your views. But I am of a Very strong view that an armed society will always be better and not at the mercy of the foes they face.

My view has been shaped after the events I saw and people I spoke to. Just like your views have been shaped against it.

Come what may when you have to protect your loved ones, are you going to throw manure at them them or having been a armed citizen put up some form of resistance?

I am asking point blank, I put a gun to your loved ones head and pull the trigger.... bang. All you can do is watch in despair. Or you are in a position to keep your loved ones safe and protected as best you can! what position do you ultimately want to be in?

 

[Path-Finder]

I don't think he was a Agent but he was Evangelical Christian who believe Jews must take control over all of holy land so his messiah aka white Jesus can return to kill 1/3rd of Jews and covert the rest, he hate Muslims and Arabs his hate stems from his Christian beliefs. The romance between the Christians and Jews is because they have a common enemy aka Muslims/Islam, Christians are losing their followers to Islam in America and west, Jews are using Christian support against Muslims until they are powerful enough to held their own, EU fault lines will be exploited by Israel once they are powerful enough, and they will do the same with America... Israel wants complete world dominance and sooner or later they will come face to face with America.

you defend the genocide and give any excuse to the occupier. That is enough to reach the end conclusion that you are in the israeli camp.

 

[FuturePAF]

Shooter was probably on the nearby roof.

Regardless of his views, this kind of violence is not acceptable and will only fuels the cycle of paranoia and violence. God forbid this becomes normalized, it will not only narrow the window for debate, especially amongst the strongest of opposing views, but make divides deeper where there shouldn’t be.

A sad day for his family, his supporters, America in general and free speech. Condolences to his wife and two very young children.

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P.S. Depending on who the shooter turns out to be, and there are some saying the suspect is a transgender individual, there is a risk this creates a cycle of violence.

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[Trailer23]

God Bless the United States of America - and the right to bear Arms.

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...again, which Amendment is it ?

So this Right-Wing nut probably got killed by a member of the NRA.

 

[That_Guy]

For someone who supposedly graduated with honors, you seem to be very naive. I referenced the Trump assassination attempt for a reason. I suspect, and as Areesh pointed out, a well trained shooter from any number of suitable positions can make that shot.

The kid who nearly assassinated Trump almost succeeded had Trump not turned his head when he did. That 130 yard shot was a chip shot in my world.

I imagine that with the right available equipment (which you can probably buy off of amazon), and enough youtube tutorials, anyone can make that shot.

 

[Starlord]

I am going to bring the conversation back down to earth. you can have your views. But I am of a Very strong view that an armed society will always be better and not at the mercy of the foes they face.

My view has been shaped after the events I saw and people I spoke to. Just like your views have been shaped against it.

Come what may when you have to protect your loved ones, are you going to throw manure at them them or having been a armed citizen put up some form of resistance?

I am asking point blank, I put a gun to your loved ones head and pull the trigger.... bang. All you can do is watch in despair. Or you are in a position to keep your loved ones safe and protected as best you can! what position do you ultimately want to be in?

See we are both talking about the world with real people, armed civilians will always cause bloodshed in some capacity, also I did mention in this very thread that living in US teaches me that you need to protect yourself in some capacity, hence I said that a Handgun is enough to protect yourself or family from any home invader. You can have Rifles and people with knife can still take you out when you are in bed so guns can no save you, also there was a story about a Indian man shot dead by cops in front of his own house when he was trying to fight off a invader.

Also your example of someone putting a gun to my family hand, bro a man can break into your house and hold your child hostage with a Freaking knife and you with all your guns and tanks and fighter jets will stand down in front of him, so please... your understanding of guns and how they work seems to be more aligned with Hollywood movies than reality.

 

[Starlord]

you defend the genocide and give any excuse to the occupier. That is enough to reach the end conclusion that you are in the israeli camp.

wait what ? LOL

 

[Liquidator]

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Ah Charlie genocide advocate and didn't believe the Palestinians should exist.

But if you were around I'd say you read carefully what Jesus Christ of Nazareth said of your likes;

"all who draw the sword will die by the sword,"