Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[hussain0216]

Please consider the irony of the above statements: What you accuse the Israelis of doing to the Palestinians, is exactly what you want done to them.

How does having the same extremist mindset for yourself that you detest in them resolve anything?

Israel is a occupational state

The PALESTINIANS have a right to resistance, you can't live with Zionists with a colonial apartheid mindset that have committed mass injustice against the PALESTINIANS

At some point the only option is total seperation of populations and the regional isolation of Israel

Negotiations with a Israel who wants to control PALESTINIANS airspace, borders, movements, foreign relations is intolerable, it's not freedom and independence but occupation by a different name

A Palestinian state needs to be unilaterally forced upon Israel and the populations separated
Jerusalem at a minimum turned into a International city and now Jew control over Palestinian lives or Al aqsa

Now more then ever a Palestinian state is needed

 

[Meengla]

What would you call the Israel airforce pilots who flew their attack helicopter to the concert site on the 7th Oct and deliberately gunned down Israeli citizens. Or how about the F-16 pilot who bombed a house knowing 10 Israeli hostages were inside and as a result killed them.

Israelis must be regretting not killed all Gazans who infiltrated Israel on October 7 even if that would mean killing dozens/hundreds of more Israeli citizens in the process. By taking the 240+ hostages into Gaza, the Gazans have prolonged the Israeli suffering: Global bad press, diplomatic backlash, huge internal dissent, prolonged economic downturn and months long costly campaign to at least try to look to be freeing the hostages.
So no wonder Israelis killed their own on October 7! The knew well otherwise!

 

[VCheng]

Israel is a occupational state

The PALESTINIANS have a right to resistance, you can't live with Zionists with a colonial apartheid mindset that have committed mass injustice against the PALESTINIANS

At some point the only option is total seperation of populations and the regional isolation of Israel

Negotiations with a Israel who wants to control PALESTINIANS airspace, borders, movements, foreign relations is intolerable, it's not freedom and independence but occupation by a different name

A Palestinian state needs to be unilaterally forced upon Israel and the populations separated
Jerusalem at a minimum turned into a International city and now Jew control over Palestinian lives or Al aqsa

Now more then ever a Palestinian state is needed

So what borders of this Palestinian state would be acceptable?

 

[hussain0216]

Israelis must be regretting not killed all Gazans who infiltrated Israel on October 7 even if that would mean killing dozens/hundreds of more Israeli citizens in the process. By taking the 240+ hostages into Gaza, the Gazans have prolonged the Israeli suffering: Global bad press, diplomatic backlash, huge internal dissent, prolonged economic downturn and months long costly campaign to at least try to look to be freeing the hostages.
So no wonder Israelis killed their own on October 7! The knew well otherwise!

They've jew'ed about 70 billion out of the U.S tax payer and European tax payers, and this does not include the billions in weapons supply they have received

That is fundamentally the main reason Israel both exists and can carry on the conflict, Israel itself is limited, very limited in its ability to carry out longer-term conflict

A post conflict resolution and free and independent Palestinian state is now closer then ever
BDS movement is essential and linking that movement with People of colour movements across the world is vital in isolating the Jews

If only the Arabs states were not such jackals especially iiiijupt and Jordan, backed by UAE and Bahrain this would b so much easier and quicker

 

[hussain0216]

So what borders of this Palestinian state would be acceptable?

A minimum of all of the west bank and east Jerusalem and Gaza

With no Jew control over Palestinian lands, lives, borders, air or sea space whatsoever

No trade, no business, no ability for Israel to have any input or influence over Palestine or islamic religious sites

Personally I wouldn't even agree to that, the presence of the Jews in the middle east needs to come to an end, the region needs to be free of these people and the wellbeing of hundreds of millions of people can't be out at risk because of the jews

 

[muhammed45]

Israelis must be regretting not killed all Gazans who infiltrated Israel on October 7 even if that would mean killing dozens/hundreds of more Israeli citizens in the process. By taking the 240+ hostages into Gaza, the Gazans have prolonged the Israeli suffering: Global bad press, diplomatic backlash, huge internal dissent, prolonged economic downturn and months long costly campaign to at least try to look to be freeing the hostages.
So no wonder Israelis killed their own on October 7! The knew well otherwise!

Spot on.

All in all, a ceasefire will take place eventually. The world cannot tolerate this ultimate savagery of western powers and Israelis.

The ceasefire that I guess will end Nethanyahu and Israel as a whole.

 

[VCheng]

A minimum of all of the west bank and east Jerusalem and Gaza

With no Jew control over Palestinian lands, lives, borders, air or sea space whatsoever

No trade, no business, no ability for Israel to have any input or influence over Palestine or islamic religious sites

And just how do you propose to get to that point?

 

[Antonius123]

A minimum of all of the west bank and east Jerusalem and Gaza

With no Jew control over Palestinian lands, lives, borders, air or sea space whatsoever

No trade, no business, no ability for Israel to have any input or influence over Palestine or islamic religious sites

Personally I wouldn't even agree to that, the presence of the Jews in the middle east needs to come to an end, the region needs to be free of these people and the wellbeing of hundreds of millions of people can't be out at risk because of the jews

These can be negotiated with Israel.

But the root cause still remains: "the disagreement of the presence of the Jews in the middle east" is not in your mind alone, but still remains in many Arabs and Palestinians, and many muslims in the world.

This will make the conflict between Palestine and Israel still continue ... although Israel has granted all you wish as mentioned above in the next accord.

As I've told you before: the ideological desire (non existence of Israel) and hatred towards jews is the main rootcause of the conflict.

 

[Mobius]

Spot on.

All in all, a ceasefire will take place eventually. The world cannot tolerate this ultimate savagery of western powers and Israelis.

The ceasefire that I guess will end Nethanyahu and Israel as a whole.

I would love to agree with this brother, but IMO, I think the conflict will unfortunately spread. The Zionists are pigheaded and hell bent in fulfilling what they believe is prophesy to establish a Greater Israel and they'll stop at nothing to achieve it. They desperately need a WW3 to collapse the US. Truly a horrid bunch of New York tunnel rats damaging world peace.
I hope I am wrong but have a strong suspicion that they're aiming for a world conflict.

 

[Indos]

These can be negotiated with Israel.

But the root cause still remains: "the disagreement of the presence of the Jews in the middle east" is not in your mind alone, but still remains in many Arabs and Palestinians, and many muslims in the world.

This will make the conflict between Palestine and Israel still continue ... although Israel has granted all you wish as mentioned above in the next accord.

As I've told you before: the ideological desire (non existence of Israel) and hatred towards jews is the main rootcause of the conflict.

I dont think Muslim hate Jews since many of our prophets are Jews including Isa/Jesus.

Jews has similar Tauhid belief like Muslim.

The hate is only due to how they treat Palestinians. Just person will hate both Israel hardliner and Hamas who dont bother targeting civilians.

 

[Indos]

Hamas and the Palestinains have every right under international law to resist the occupation violently as long as they do not target civilians.

Well you need to see the situation. Not every right thing is a good thing to do. It depends on the situation and consequences that will follow the action. In Quran Allah teach about this when prophet Musa is ordered by God to meet Khidir. Have you read the verses ?

 

[Antonius123]

I dont think Muslim hate Jews since many of our prophets are Jews including Isa/Jesus.

Jews has similar Tauhid belief like Muslim.

The hate is only due to how they treat Palestinians. Just person will hate both Israel hardliner and Hamas who dont bother targeting civilians.

Though muslim prophets were jews, they believe jews has deviated, and Muslim has had conflict with jews from the beginning.

There are verses that can be interpreted as antisemits in their holybook, and many muslims believe they will have battle with jews and exterminate them in the endtime war even till jews run and hide behind gharkad tree.

 

[Indos]

Though muslim prophets were jews, they believe jews has deviated, and Muslim has had conflict with jews from the beginning.

There are verses that can be interpreted as antisemits in their holybook, and many muslims believe they will have battle with jews and exterminate them in the endtime war even till jews run and hide behind gharkad tree.

Well regarding the hadith as I dont know about the autencity of it, but hadiths cannot violate what has been stated in Quran. As person who has read whole Quran verses more than one, I have some credibility to talk about it.

It is clear that there is war code in Islam based on Quran and Hadith. Like for example in Hadith our prophet forbid us to even destroy three. This is of course not making Muslim avoid using bomb if it is necessary, but there is lesson that the war should not destroy any living things.

There is no extermination of Jews on that hadith. I would say it is the extermination of combatan soldiers that insist to fight. Hadiths about future tend to be stated in a language of methapore, the same like Bible as well if you see the Book of Revealation.

That hadith I would say talking about the situation during intense fighting (and Muslim must not kill any non combatan during any war). If that happen, it is between combatan vs combatan. The just commander of Muslim I believe will avoid war to happen inside Israel city.

Muslim with lack of knowledge on Quran of course can possibly missinterpret it like the way non Muslim like you think. We also can see radical group like ISIS interpret Quran verses like non Muslim does, this show this group is lead by people with lack of knowledge on Islam. I have already explained the real messages of that particular verses several times in old PDF that I believe has become the religious backing of their terror action due to their own stupidity ( the verses clearly talking in the context of war ( where main message of Islam is justice and rahmat) which is then followed by other verse saying that Allah prefer Muslim to make peace if the enemy does want peace)

 

[Mobius]

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