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If it was so ineffective, how to explain some PL-15 were found ON the ground intact ? (and now in the french, US, japanese hands).
If 10 were fired on a single jet, 9 may have been dodged or jammed, one may have found its way.
can you show me one on the ground that has a warhead? or one that is not just a spent motor casing lol
 
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Not bright are you and you wonder why your posts get deleted.

"At 1230hrs on May 7, that attack came when the IAF bombed nine sites in Pakistan with long-range Spice 2000 precision-guided bombs. "

The PAF were referring to the initial bombs that hit civilians near the border.

But carry on with the BS Rakesh, suits you and the harder you cope, the more stupid you look.....


"According to the IAF, retaliatory strikes took place at 11 different military air bases, on May 10. The bases included PAF Base Nur Khan near Rawalpindi, which was, according to the PAF, struck by Spice 2000 PGMs released by Mirage 2000s. It missed the HQ-9 missile battery at the facility"
Tarp. cover has appeared as a part of the planning to improve infra. details!

is that normal? no..

or, in other words, damage (to be hidden by tarp. cover) appeared before the planning of infra. details!!!

my reading!


just like this...


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The colour grading of the right image, especially the colour of the runway is great!
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Produce the images. BS001 is confirmed because images of it have been found out. If Pakistan claims it has humint evidence, they must present similar evidence.
Nonsense. No air force is obligated in such a way.

Moreover, you betray a lack of understanding of the average Indian mindset, where bombastic hype generated from incidents has real world consequences.

Every "shock reveal" has a cost implication in this context. If we confirm every scrap of damage caused, then Indian senior heads may roll.

Why would we want their incompetents to be replaced by someone who may be competent?

We will reveal what we need, when we need to, to inflict maximum potential ongoing damage in a sustained manner.
 
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"According to the IAF, retaliatory strikes took place at 11 different military air bases, on May 10. The bases included PAF Base Nur Khan near Rawalpindi, which was, according to the PAF, struck by Spice 2000 PGMs released by Mirage 2000s. It missed the HQ-9 missile battery at the facility"

The colour grading of the right image, especially the colour of the runway is great!
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frankly, you and your OSINT have shot themselves in the foot!

evidence is forward looking, you and your OSINT are arguing vehemently over images which were taken almost 2 years back?!!!

how is that evidence?!!


your evidence is eating is itself!


re. runway colour?!!! dude, have your eyes checked up! look for changes before and after (beside the colour!)
 
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IAF had already decided to improve infra. details at the AFB!

yeah, they could but why infra. work at this specific point, which is claimed by your adversary?!

infra. improvement work that too with tarps only at those specific points?!!


no openness, no evidence... right!

So you think that you have got hold of a straw? Finally.
Kuch to mila.

The tweet claims Apple picture showing camouflage nets in Mar 25. And now it says that the building is covered by tarps.
Before jumping on to this information with joy, did you check the Apple satellite image? I had a look at it and the entire building was covered in green colour nets even in that picture.
That’s the issue with fanboys. They seek joys of success without any hard work.
Take a pause buddy, visit those websites and have a look at those pictures.
You would yourself backdown.

Second point - How do you know the nature of any of those buildings? Even if we ASSUME that there was a strike, why would that building be occupied?
If all PAF buildings struck by IAF were magically vacant and devoid of any assets, why would that not apply to this side. Food for thought.

In any case, a building covered with a tarp is no proof of strike. It could be for N number of reasons.
You had the window to get the pictures with visible attack marks.
Please sell this chooran to your side.
 
So you think that you have got hold of a straw? Finally.
Kuch to mila.

The tweet claims Apple picture showing camouflage nets in Mar 25. And now it says that the building is covered by tarps.
Before jumping on to this information with joy, did you check the Apple satellite image? I had a look at it and the entire building was covered in green colour nets even in that picture.
That’s the issue with fanboys. They seek joys of success without any hard work.
Take a pause buddy, visit those websites and have a look at those pictures.
You would yourself backdown.

Second point - How do you know the nature of any of those buildings? Even if we ASSUME that there was a strike, why would that building be occupied?
If all PAF buildings struck by IAF were magically vacant and devoid of any assets, why would that not apply to this side. Food for thought.

In any case, a building covered with a tarp is no proof of strike. It could be for N number of reasons.
You had the window to get the pictures with visible attack marks.
Please sell this chooran to your side.


dear:


if everything rests on assumptions, then,


i'd assume that I own IBM!

now lets play, who assumes what and circle around to fool every body!

dont think we arestupid!
 

Operation Sindoor: Pakistan officially confirmed it shot down four Rafale fighter jets of the Indian Air Force​


Months before the conclusion of Operation Sindoor, officials of the Pakistan Air Force officially confirmed that during their defensive missions they succeeded in shooting down seven aircraft and one drone belonging to the Indian side, noting that four of these aircraft were French-made Rafale fighters. The announcement was specifically made by retired Lieutenant General Khalid Kidwai, who held a press conference in which he even disclosed the tail numbers of each downed aircraft: BS001, BS021, BS022, BS027.


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It is worth highlighting that this marks the first time one of the parties has officially confirmed the number of shootdowns during the hostilities, as until now there had only been speculation from open-source intelligence (OSINT) and anonymous statements by officials for media reports, complemented by vague remarks from institutional authorities of each Air Force. An illustrative example of this can be found in May, when the Director General of Air Operations (DGAO) of the Indian Air Force, Air Marshal Awadesh Kumar Bharti, stated that “losses are part of combat.”

In line with this, representatives from both forces anonymously told Reuters that the Pakistani shootdowns had been carried out using Chinese-made PL-15E missiles launched by J-10C fighters. Specifically, the Pakistani side pointed out that enemy losses were achieved by exploiting flaws in Indian intelligence, which had attributed the missile a range of around 150 kilometers when in fact it reaches 200 kilometers. This allowed long-range strikes against enemy pilots who were completely unprepared.


Furthermore, Pakistani officials emphasized that the country had successfully established an extensive network of ground, air, and space-based aerial surveillance sensors that provided comprehensive situational awareness to support its fighters. This network was referred to as “attack chains.” In detail, it was stated that China had supplied most of the equipment, which was integrated through a locally produced Data Link 17 system—yet another example of the close defense ties between the two nations. After the conflict, Beijing even dispatched one of its generals to obtain further insights on the network’s performance.

Beyond these particulars, it is also important to recall that Lieutenant General Kidwai’s revelations come as India pushes forward with its plans to acquire a major batch of 114 additional Rafale fighters, with the Air Force’s proposal currently in advanced stages of evaluation. The plan emphasizes integrating India’s domestic military-industrial complex in the manufacturing process. If finalized, New Delhi could operate a fleet of up to 176 Rafales in total, including 26 naval variants acquired to equip the aircraft carriers INS Vikrant and INS Vikramaditya. This is a significant point, considering it would allow India to form new combat squadrons—a pressing need as the Air Force is currently more than 10 operational squadrons short of its own strategic goals.

 
dear:


if everything rests on assumptions, then,


i'd assume that I own IBM!

now lets play, who assumes what and circle around to fool every body!

dont think we arestupid!

The damage can not be ascertained without a clear image from the followings days in May - move on.
 
dear:


if everything rests on assumptions, then,


i'd assume that I own IBM!

now lets play, who assumes what and circle around to fool every body!

dont think we arestupid!
You can ASSUME that there is a bomb damage below a building covered with tarp?
But any other N number of possibilities for covering a building with a tarp are not valid?
While there is a clear evidence that the same building was covered with tarps in Mar 25 too.
Please get something more reliable.
 
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"According to the IAF, retaliatory strikes took place at 11 different military air bases, on May 10. The bases included PAF Base Nur Khan near Rawalpindi, which was, according to the PAF, struck by Spice 2000 PGMs released by Mirage 2000s. It missed the HQ-9 missile battery at the facility"

The colour grading of the right image, especially the colour of the runway is great!
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meray pakistanio, we have to stop this cope- nothing was hit and it is what it is, our attack was pretty pathetic and yiha's could have been shot out of the sky with a slingshot.
 

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