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[Michael]

Pakistan should get something like S-400s. Does China have an alternative to this like HQ-9s?

China purchased four to six S-400 air defense systems. One system equals one air defense battalion (compared to a regiment in Russia).

China's actual test results:
The S-400 air defense system is characterized by its long detection range. However, its radar resolution is relatively poor, and its anti-interference capabilities are relatively weak. In other words, it can detect targets at great distances, but it cannot distinguish their types.

China's HQ-9 series air defense systems have a much shorter detection range than the S-400. However, their radar resolution is stronger, and their anti-interference capabilities are even better. In other words, once detected, they can accurately determine the target's type.

Because China faced significant threats at the time and its own HQ-9 production capacity was insufficient, it purchased the S-400 from Russia for key area air defense. However, actual testing results were unsatisfactory. Subsequently, China deployed all S-400 air defense systems to low-threat areas. The HQ-9 was responsible for air defense in high-threat areas.

Some analysts believe that China was attracted by the interceptor missiles of the S-400 air defense system. ------ Its interceptor missiles are indeed quite good. But its radar and analysis systems are terrible. Russia's electronics and information technology sectors have stagnated for years.

Objectively speaking, the S-400 is stronger than the HQ-9, but the S-400 is prone to misjudgment. The HQ-9 has a much higher cost-effectiveness.

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For Pakistan, purchasing Chinese air defense systems is a better option. If Pakistan wants to research the S-400 system, it can go directly to China. Alternatively, it can communicate directly with its Chinese counterparts.

If Pakistan truly wants to purchase used S-400s, it can try to negotiate with China. After all, the S-400s in China's possession are of little value. We only need to retain one or two for research and as a simulated enemy force.

 

[Yasser76]

Add photos of remaining tail numbers as well, 28 of them

You are not making any sense or any point now.

BS001, BS021, BS022, and BS027

Just show us the planes now and win the argument for all time....

 

[White Privilege]

"Mock Drill", need to put this up there with "Lahore Port".....

'Mock drills' are publicized so that real casualty evacuation can be masked. Simple but brilliant strategy....

 

[Ali_Baba]

This is probably a very dumb question,but what if Turkey and Russia came to an agreement to sell the S-400s to Pakistan? Would India be able to block that sale? Would it be of little importance to Pakistan since,supposedly Indians have it as well?

Pakistan would never go for them. The HQ9B's are pretty close to them in capability, and the HQ9C will be a lot better than the S400. It is China who has the money to invest into its products, that is the trend line of where the best products will come from and integrating new chinese products is alot easier than a new type from a country that has never supplied anything to Pakistan before.

Türkiye is better of using them to try and rebuild Syrian IADS instead if it does not want them. Best not to sell them to Russia, in case India then buys them!

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

100% this. I have been saying this on many threads.

We actually all know who the culprits are too. We all knew the Warns articles would cause them immense heart burn, and I suspected it would be derailed.

a willing individual, who is willing enough to justify his/her opinion would start by giving explanations or justifying views based on the experience

but, no..

these trolls start to thrash argument with terms like 'echo chamber'

term specifically designed to make one feel, as if he/she is living in a vacuum (like a caged animal)

this much thought, seen again and again, looks outrightly planned and actions are only being simulated here!

I could be wrong, but, it feels that way!

 

[ThrustVector998]

Add photos of remaining tail numbers as well, 28 of them

Try bringing them within 150km again and maybe we will

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

China purchased four to six S-400 air defense systems. One system equals one air defense battalion (compared to a regiment in Russia).

China's actual test results:
The S-400 air defense system is characterized by its long detection range. However, its radar resolution is relatively poor, and its anti-interference capabilities are relatively weak. In other words, it can detect targets at great distances, but it cannot distinguish their types.

China's HQ-9 series air defense systems have a much shorter detection range than the S-400. However, their radar resolution is stronger, and their anti-interference capabilities are even better. In other words, once detected, they can accurately determine the target's type.

Because China faced significant threats at the time and its own HQ-9 production capacity was insufficient, it purchased the S-400 from Russia for key area air defense. However, actual testing results were unsatisfactory. Subsequently, China deployed all S-400 air defense systems to low-threat areas. The HQ-9 was responsible for air defense in high-threat areas.

Some analysts believe that China was attracted by the interceptor missiles of the S-400 air defense system. ------ Its interceptor missiles are indeed quite good. But its radar and analysis systems are terrible. Russia's electronics and information technology sectors have stagnated for years.

Objectively speaking, the S-400 is stronger than the HQ-9, but the S-400 is prone to misjudgment. The HQ-9 has a much higher cost-effectiveness.

========================================

For Pakistan, purchasing Chinese air defense systems is a better option. If Pakistan wants to research the S-400 system, it can go directly to China. Alternatively, it can communicate directly with its Chinese counterparts.

If Pakistan truly wants to purchase used S-400s, it can try to negotiate with China. After all, the S-400s in China's possession are of little value. We only need to retain one or two for research and as a simulated enemy force.

Agreed with you that Pakistan should purchase the Chinese variants because it is cost effective.

The Pakistani economy is bad when compared to Japan's, South Korea's, or Taiwan's.

 

[maxpane]

can anyone tell about the serial num of rafale which shivangi was flying?

 

[ThrustVector998]

can anyone tell about the serial num of rafale which shivangi was flying?

022 from what I've heard. They did a program some time ago interviewing her and showing her Rafale

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[Yasser76]

022 from what I've heard. They did a program some time ago interviewing her and showing her Rafale

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Yeah, my guess is if 4 Rafales went down with PL-15 shots, chances are at least one or two pilots did not eject successfully right?

Very strange she has gone into hiding but they are giving out medals to almost their entire air force....

 

[CallSignMaverick]

You are not making any sense or any point now.

BS001, BS021, BS022, and BS027

Just show us the planes now and win the argument for all time....

Just show us the aftermath of inside the hangars after the missile strikes, and prove us wrong

Try bringing them within 150km again and maybe we will

They did come on 10th May though, that day Nur Khan and Sargodha were hit by them.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

022 from what I've heard. They did a program some time ago interviewing her and showing her Rafale

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so 22 and shivangi, both were there when camera was around!

that makes it more likely (but not a certainty!)

 

[TallGuy]

LOL.
your heightened patriotism makes you say anything without proof.

it goes both ways..

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Just show us the aftermath of inside the hangars after the missile strikes, and prove us wrong

They did come on 10th May though, that day Nur Khan and Sargodha were hit by them.

shut your echo chamber!

 

[ThrustVector998]

They did come on 10th May though, that day Nur Khan and Sargodha were hit by them.

Get your facts right. IAF resorted to launching A2G munitions from standoff ranges over central IAF bases after "realizing their mistake" ~ CDS Anil Chohan