Mighty_Dragon_Strike
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they like English more as masters and have made significant investments in England!
BTW, whats the expected Indian response, a defense pact with ISRL?!!!
haha... they have already a pact!!!
Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion
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they like English more as masters and have made significant investments in England!
BTW, whats the expected Indian response, a defense pact with ISRL?!!!
haha... they have already a pact!!!
mythbuster
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Body shaming not allowed , you should be cancelled.
Uzair Khan
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Come-on Saudia give us the 100 billion already. 50 would go to the development of Pakistan and paying debts. 45 for teaching Israel such a lesson that it won't ever forget and 5 for the................... . Even a car dealer takes 2 percent commission.
sutton9999
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Saudi expects US/Israel to tolerate this pact. Because while Russia gets pinned down and Iran is constrained, Turkey is the next target.
Great Israel can co-exist with Sunni/GCC, but not a vigorous Turkey or Iran.
Great Israel can co-exist with Sunni/GCC, but not a vigorous Turkey or Iran.
Goenitz
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The wording could have been better. SA can hardly fight its own war so it cannot actively support Pakistan but in terms of resources. Anyway, we shouldn't test our SA pact by fighting India etc, anyway.
The wording can be just material support in defence, and no country would support aggression. Both Yemen and India wd be relieved.
1. Pak shouldn't. That is why taking Iran into confidence is important.
2. They will not fight. The threat was a proxy war like in Syria and Iraq, which could spill over to the Bahrin crisis, and could spill SA eastern regions where Shia were a majority. Otherwise, both countries will not fight.
3. SA mustn't and Pak mustn't provoke India. @nahtanbob is right about India being the 3rd largest SA oil consumer. We shouldn't put SA economic interests in jeopardy, or this pact will fail.
4. If we were united as Pakistanis, we could make that choice. We all know nobody is fighting Israel but the US too.
chinasun
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Egypt deploys China’s HQ-9B SAM in Sinai
The HQ-9B has been operationally deployed on Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula, its radar able to look deep across Israeli airspace. Islamabad should build a live data-and-intelligence link with Riyadh, Cairo and other regional partners, steadily edging the region toward a Middle-East-style NATO that can encircle Israel.With defense as its core mission, the grouping seeks to rebalance regional power;With defense as its core mission, the grouping seeks to rebalance regional power; the key is to keep deepening Pakistan’s defense and economic partnerships with Middle Eastern states.
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mythbuster
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A wise friend of mine always says ! Everyone has an opinion and an A**le..
Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ
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Greed was the conduit... that segwayed into current pickle/predicament...
The laissez faire or head in the sand regime just got kicked in the sack and put on motion. It is either that... a path towards safety or one towards ruin. Because humanity has never faced psychopaths chasing apocalypse before, ever!
On the other end of their path is either their king, vindication and a messianic age or death, carnage and ruin.
Greed only works when someone has hope for himself or posterity... line is drawn and gauntlet thrown!
Yasser76
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‘Most cordial talks’ with Saudi prince covered regional challenges, bilateral cooperation: PM Shehbaz
Dawn.com Published September 18, 2025 Updated 25 minutes agoA day after Pakistan and Saudi Arabia signed a landmark mutual defence agreement during Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif’s visit to Riyadh, the premier on Thursday expressed gratitude for the “heart-warming welcome” given to him in the Gulf State and shared that his talks with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad Bin Salman covered regional challenges, as well as enhancing bilateral cooperation.
PM Shehbaz reached Riyadh for a day-long visit yesterday where he and Crown Prince Salman signed the ’Strategic Mutual Defence Agreement’ at the Al-Yamamah Palace in the Saudi capital.
“Deeply touched by the heart warming welcome, accorded to me by my dear brother HRH (His Royal Highness) Prince Mohammed bin Salman, crown prince and prime minister of Saudi Arabia, on my official visit to Riyadh.
“From the unprecedented escort provided to my aircraft by the Royal Saudi air force jets to the smartly turned out guard of the Saudi armed forces, this welcome reception speaks volumes about the abiding love and mutual respect between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia,” he said in a post on X.
The premier shared that his “most cordial talks” with the crown prince covered a wide range of issues, reviewing regional challenges and enhancing bilateral cooperation“.
“I deeply admire HRH’s vision and leadership that he provides to the Muslim world,” he said, adding that on the bilateral front, he “greatly valued” the Saudi crown prince’s “consistent support and his keen interest” in expanding Saudi investments, trade and business ties between Islamabad and Riyadh.
“It is my fervent prayer that Pakistan [and] Saudi Arabia’s friendship continues to flourish and attain new heights of glory. Inshallah! (God willing),” PM Shehbaz said.
According to state broadcaster Radio Pakistan, PM Shehbaz left for London after concluding his visit to Riyadh today.
Pakistan and Saudi Arab have long shared a multifaceted relationship rooted in strategic military cooperation, mutual economic interests, and shared Islamic heritage. These ties have encompassed economic assistance and energy supplies, with Riyadh being a significant source of financial aid and oil for Islamabad.
Wednesday’s agreement marks the most significant upgrade in Pakistan-Saudi defence ties in decades.
The announcement was made in a joint statement by Islamabad and Riyadh. The statement said the pact “reflects the shared commitment of both nations to enhance their security and to achieve security and peace in the region and the world”.
“[It] aims to develop aspects of defence cooperation between the two countries and strengthen joint deterrence against any aggression,” the statement said, without going into details.
Importantly, the text underscored that “any aggression against either country shall be considered an aggression against both”.
The timing of the accord, coming on the heels of an Arab summit that signalled a shift towards collective security — in the wake of Israel’s attack on Qatar — hints that it is rooted in current world affairs and reflects the defence concerns of both countries.
Official Saudi media outlets also carried reports of the signing ceremony, but they offered no further details about the accord or its provisions.
Cooperation between the two states in the area of defence dates back to 1967 and deepened after the 1979 Grand Mosque seizure, when Pakistani special forces helped Saudi troops reclaim Masjid al-Haram.
In 1982, the two sides institutionalised security ties through a Bilateral Security Cooperation Agreement that enabled Pakistani training, advisory support and deployments on Saudi soil. At times, as many as 20,000 Pakistani troops were stationed in the kingdom, and Saudi Arabia became a key purchaser of Pakistani-made arms.
In recent years, the partnership has gained urgency amid regional instability. In February, a meeting of the Joint Military Cooperation Committee in Riyadh pledged to expand training and exchanges.
The new pact formalises commitments that had long existed in practice, creating what some analysts saw as a de facto joint defensive umbrella though finer details of the agreement were not made public.
For Pakistan, the agreement offers both strategic and economic benefits. It secures vital Saudi investment and funding at a time of fiscal strain, while reinforcing Islamabad’s standing as a pan-Islamic security provider.
For Saudi Arabia, it strengthens defences against threats from Iran, Houthi militias and regional turbulence caused by Israel’s genocidal actions in Gaza and aggression against other countries in the neighbourhood. The Israeli attack targeting Hamas delegation in Doha heightened the urgency for this agreement that had been under discussion for some time.
Pakistan’s earlier defence alignments, such as Cold War-era agreements with the United States and those under Seato and Cento, have long since eroded.
Today, Islamabad’s partnerships with China, Turkey and other Gulf states remain important but lack binding mutual defence clauses.
Against this backdrop, Wednesday’s signing represents Pakistan’s most consequential formal defence commitment in decades, tying its security role inextricably to the evolving strategic architecture of the Gulf.
‘Most cordial talks’ with Saudi crown prince covered regional challenges, bilateral cooperation: PM Shehbaz
Premier's statement comes after his visit to Riyadh where he and Saudi crown prince signed landmark mutual defence agreement.
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If any country is safe from Israeli attack, it is Turkey in my opinion. Not only Turkey can defend herself, it can crush Israel single handedly and being a member of NATO, the block will be split, probably in favour of Turkey except USA, UK and Germany.
Uzair Khan
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I think the simple thing is . The purpose of this defense pact is to deter Israel from thinking of attacking KSA while Pakistan would receive economic benefits both in the defense and civil sector. Slapping India (now no one should be confused by this. The response from the world is enough to say who is a winner and who is a loser) on one side and deterring Israel on the other side is a great achievement for a nation created on the name of Islam.
Goenitz
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Anyway, everyone has a brain and freedom of speech. The thing is, opening a business, start-up or securing a pact etc, are secondary to sustaining these.
The situation is so confounding now, like a marriage. Now, we have to greet cheerfully other members' friends, which could be hostile to us.
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