Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

[atmi_bum]

Ahh, yes, you cite a 50+ year story of a local uprising in Jordan to imply Pakistan crushed the Palestinians. No such thing. A local uprising was put down--didn't matter who that would be. But in 1973 war between Israel and the Arabs, Pakistan showed its real commitment. Where was India then? Showing a 'concern' like it shows when Gazans are killed, when Iran is bombed, when Qatar is attacked? When does India directly blame Israel???!! Hypocrites!! I hope every Arab and every Persian is reading my post here!

Also, you should not quote BS events from decades ago to cover your bases. India and Indian bloggers have absolutely proven themselves to be the biggest hypocrites on the Israel-Palestinian conflict and the saner elements in the Indian blogspace are very concerned about that. But I think you know what I am saying here yet choosing to deflect and obfuscate. I have no problem to India being pro Israel--every nation has a choice to make--but be open about your choices.

No matter who pulled the trigger, Pakistan was involved. Why deny it?

As for 1973, the Arabs lost just like they lost every war with Israel. Pakistan's involvement did not change that.

As for India not criticizing Israel, it can be explained by the changing geopolitics. India, under Congress rule, supported the Palestinians, including not even recognizing Israel (which happened under Modi). At the time, the Palestinians were led by secular, Marxist groups like the PLO and PFLP. Today, things have changed significantly. Hamas is in charge, and Congress has given way to Modi and the BJP. Why would India support an organization like Hams, which not even Arabs like?

Personally, I don't care about Israelis or Palestinians. I have no stake in this conflct.

 

[atmi_bum]

Not by anyone of consequence,

You are right. When Arabs don't care about Palestinians, why should others?

 

[_Arabia_]

I think China would like to have its AWACS flying around in the northwestern part of Saudi, where it is less than 500KM away from Israel's F-35s.

Haql (google the city), an ancient seaside resort in northwestern KSA, next to the Red Sea, is 31.5 km away (in direct flight) from Eilat/Ilat. 51.5 km by road when taking the Aqaba route. In fact you can from Haql (I have been there, a very nice area), see the nearby coastline of Egypt (Sinai), Jordan and Palestine (Israel).

Also the main military base in Northern KSA is not in Al-Jawf province but in Tabuk (another very beautiful and ancient region of KSA). King Faisal Air Base. Less than 400 km distance to Al-Quds.

The closest main population center (Al-Qurayyat) to Al-Quds is about 250-280 km by car driving through Jordan (obviously).

KSA is a huge country (12th largest in the world) so depending where you are in KSA, you are much closer to neighbouring countries x or y than other areas of KSA but this is similarly the case with China.

 

[Cash gk]

Both Pakistanis and Indians are exaggerating the scope of this agreement.
Indians are panicking and asking Saudis to understand sensitivity - Modi really did screw up. India has more than enough existing goodwill and resources to recover but it gave the window to Pakistan to edge itself in. Result is that eventually India will be back to its level but the Pakistani relationship is the net gain. India is net neutral in terms of loss and gain after Sindhoor.

🫩 don’t make sense. The defeat that India suffered in the four-day war against Pakistan was not just a military setback, it was a diplomatic disaster that shattered India’s standing. It wasn’t simply about losing four Rafale jets — the real blow was to the entire European defence structure. Rafale and Eurofighter are the two major pillars of the Western defence system, and at the very top stood Rafale. When Rafale took such a heavy hit, it sent shockwaves through that whole structure. After this, even the Arab states began to place their trust in Pakistan, gaining confidence in its power. That is why your argument makes no sense. If you remember, I had already said during that war that India would have to pay the diplomatic price of this defeat for the next fifty years.

 

[Taimoor]

Thick Indian accent: "Saaaar, ghus ke maarenge and two phrant waar has taken a new dimension!"

Their two phraant has just become three phraant.

 

[the vicious kind]

Just one of Pakistan's many delusions over the years. This agreement has no bearing on India's relationship with the Middle East, which is robust.

The only delusional state left in the region is India. Over the past four months, Modi has been caught with his pants down numerous times. Not a single country, including India’s closest allies, implicated Pakistan in the Pahalgam attacks. Unlike during the Mumbai incident, New Delhi couldn’t even manage to get Pakistan named in joint statements or press briefings this time around.

The QUAD is failing, U.S. India relations are in a downward spiral, China is already building an bases in Bangladesh, and now India’s largest energy partner, Saudi Arabia, has signed a mutual defence pact with its biggest adversary. Talk about robust relations. Apart from probably Russia, maybe Israel , India has none left.

 

[Tamerlane]

At the risk of increasing some people's stress to heart attack levels, I will say that what has happened is that Pakistan has just signed on to be an active participant in what is called Armageddon by Christians and Al-Malhama Al-Kubra by Muslims. I welcome it.

The Jews have been planning world domination for centuries. They've managed to take over the Christian West and create Israel. There's a clear trajectory of their rising control over America, from just after WW2 when ships with Jews were turned back to now when their control is 100%. Only a few days ago on Judge Napolitano's show Max Blumenthal said that Trump is scared s**tless of Netanyahu. They spy on him and can eliminate him if he doesn’t do what he’s told. That’s how much control they have over the US.

Having enslaved the US and, therefore, the whole West, Netanyahu is going for broke. He's been able to mostly destroy Hamas, Hezbollah, and softened up Iran. With three years of Trump remaining he thinks that it's now or never to go for Greater Israel. Their prophecies say that the Jews will rule the world.

With the centuries of hard work, and seeing their destination so close, the Jews are not going to just abandon it all because Pakistan and Saudi Arabia signed a deal. They're going to try to come up with a plan to deal with it and keep moving forward with their plan.

So, whether we like it or not, WW3 is coming just like it has been prophesied. It is a battle between the Romans (West/NATO) and Muslims. And now Pakistan is going to be in the thick of it.

I welcome it because if we are Muslims then we must do our bit.

 

[Cash gk]

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This fu…. Munira is lucky…

 

[Cash gk]

In all seriousness, Indian diplomacy has been very good last 20 years. Last 6 months a total disaster, Jaishanker and Indian Defence Minister nowhere to be seen

Pakistan in last 2 months

CAS - US visit, China visit, Saudi visit, Turkiye visit
COAS - 2 US visits (with Trump), China visit, Qatar visit, Turkiye visit, Iran visit, UK visit
FM Dar - US visit, UK visit, China visit, Turkiye visit, Iran visit, Qatar visit, EU visit, UAE visit

Just really weird last few months Indian COAS, FM nowhere to be seen globally....

If you remember my article during May conflict, I said India will pay the prize diplomatically next 50 years

 

[Watandar]

At the risk of increasing some people's stress to heart attack levels, I will say that what has happened is that Pakistan has just signed on to be an active participant in what is called Armageddon by Christians and Al-Malhama Al-Kubra by Muslims. I welcome it.

The Jews have been planning world domination for centuries. They've managed to take over the Christian West and create Israel. There's a clear trajectory of their rising control over America, from just after WW2 when ships with Jews were turned back to now when their control is 100%. Only a few days ago on Judge Napolitano's show Max Blumenthal said that Trump is scared s**tless of Netanyahu. They spy on him and can eliminate him if he doesn’t do what he’s told. That’s how much control they have over the US.

Having enslaved the US and, therefore, the whole West, Netanyahu is going for broke. He's been able to mostly destroy Hamas, Hezbollah, and softened up Iran. With three years of Trump remaining he thinks that it's now or never to go for Greater Israel. Their prophecies say that the Jews will rule the world.

With the centuries of hard work, and seeing their destination so close, the Jews are not going to just abandon it all because Pakistan and Saudi Arabia signed a deal. They're going to try to come up with a plan to deal with it and keep moving forward with their plan.

So, whether we like it or not, WW3 is coming just like it has been prophesied. It is a battle between the Romans (West/NATO) and Muslims. And now Pakistan is going to be in the thick of it.

I welcome it because if we are Muslims then we must do our bit.

Good write up. I am just wondering if this isn't another "qayamat kee nishani" that Pakistanis seem to spot everywhere

 

[Cash gk]

Why we even discussing India in this equation this agreement against Israel right?

 

[Blain2]

This fu…. Munira is lucky…

Luck only goes so far. If one stops looking at everything from the PTI lens, there are quite a few positive developments that required diplomacy and alignment. Nothing of this complexity happens with luck.
It is unfortunate that we have domestic political turmoil which should be sorted out, but all Pakistanis should hope for the best. Pakistan is more than the persons of Munir, Shareef, and Khan.

 

[Cash gk]

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[Cash gk]

Luck only goes so far. If one stops looking at everything from the PTI lens, there are quite a few positive developments that required diplomacy and alignment. Nothing of this complexity happens with luck.
It is unfortunate that we have domestic political turmoil which should be sorted out, but all Pakistanis should hope for the best. Pakistan is more than the persons of Munir, Shareef, and Khan.

He is enjoying the fruits of the brave sons of the soil who were flying the J-10 and JF-17 fighters.

 

[Cash gk]

According to this agreement, Saudi Arabia has indirectly become a nuclear power. Do you agree with this opinion