Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

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An unlikely scenario given the zionist state is a project from the onset to dispossess the inhabitants of the land replace them with pretenders.

That being said Pakistan's founding principle is that the existence of such an entity is an abomination and those who wish to live on the land must love amongst Palestinians as equals in one state and not as rulers nor apartheid colonizers as they are right now.

That position is a principled stance irrespective of whims of Palestinian administration(s), authority or state of transition on a given day under duress or other compulsions that only they endure and are privy to... should not force Pakistan to concede.

 

[_Arabia_]

Speaking about the devil (Zionists/Israel), this Twitter feed by this Zionist academic was created exactly 1 week ago.

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He posted the same information in Hebrew 2 days prior.

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Long Tweeter feed but no coincidence and the timing is uncanny.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

"Pleaj saaaar, keep sensitivities in mind!!!"

Hindutva ideology claims the entire Arab pennisuala was Hindu lands! And, it wants it back!!

 

[Meengla]

Why would Pakistan choose to align with Iran, a state currently struggling for its very survival? With Assad’s Syria dismantled, Hezbollah in ruins, and Iraq’s PMU militias restrained by Ayatollah Sistani from intervening against Israel in the recent conflict, it is fair to say that Iran is effectively out of the Middle East equation.

Iran is not out of the Middle East at all. It suffered a lot from the Israeli sabotage and acts of terrorism, followed by the bombing, but I believe if Iran had not retained considerable amount of hypersonic missiles by the time the staged attacks were arranged then the bombing of Iran would have continued. And not to be discounted is that the Arab countries had jointly decided to not aid the Americans in bombing Iran and that made the bombing of Iran much more difficult.
Iran is in the rebuilding mode: Acquiring weapons, flushing out the spies, creating alliances and I am sure China is working behind the scene to help Iran, Pakistan, Turkey and Arab countries on diplomatic fronts.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Off topic but indirectly related. This is going to hit india’s global standing and economy:

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It'll be very difficult to hire H1Bs unless it's deducted from their wages! Oh no, the current workers have to work even more or train the folks graduating from other disciplines.....

 

[r3alist]

It'll be very difficult to hire H1Bs unless it's deducted from their wages! Oh no, the current workers have to work even more or train the folks graduating from other disciplines.....

It's only fair since Americans once upon a time trained them

 

[PakAl]

 

[Meengla]

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I know that other than Indians, the followers of the Messiah Khan of Pakistan are the most disappointed ones. You know, nothing good can ever happen in Pakistan unless the Great Khan is in power. As to your post: Tell me when was the most consequential clause ever present in the past agreements??
Your post and the 'Likes' you got show how much some Pakistanis, especially the expats, are aligned with the Indians.

 

[alphapak]

it would be mad but i believe 120 j 20 is must. 80 in middle east and 40 in pakistan i know people are thinking that am mad

The J20 fighter is not for export. The Saudi's need to phase out their Tornado fighter jets
with J10C and then also go for J35.

Pakistan needs to get J35 asap.

 

[Meengla]

PA doesn't move an inch without Pentagon approval.

Google some.
2011

Before a Senate hearing on Thursday, Admiral Mullen stated definitively that Pakistani intelligence was supporting militant extremists in Afghanistan as they launch attacks on US forces there.
"The Haqqani network, for one, acts as a veritable arm of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence Agency," said Adm Mullen.
"

 

[maxpane]

The J20 fighter is not for export. The Saudi's need to phase out their Tornado fighter jets
with J10C and then also go for J35.

Pakistan needs to get J35 asap.

zardari visited Chengdu and he was briefed on j10 jf 17 and j20. am not saying is available but may be some exception be made.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

There is a difference.

A common Saudi is quite tribal and religious and the government fears them and often they are under pressure not to do anything crazy like becoming part of the Abraham Accords etc. When Pakistan tested its nuclear tests a common Saudi was celebrating it like a Pakistani was celebrating it. Those sentiments are still fresh.

The UAE is like 10% native and 90% expats and they've welcomed Indians in open arms so much so that literally the Indians have them by their balls due to massive investments. All these Emirates care about is doing business. They are more than content to sleep with the devil.

Also I would like to bring up Egypt here. I know people keep saying their government is illegitimate and corrupt and pro Israel etc etc. But if you ever go to Egypt and interact with Egyptians literally they are a combo of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Their government too won't do anything crazy like UAE and they actually did fight a war against Israel in the past so things cannot change that easily.

My point is if UAE want similar deal then Pakistan should go ahead, it will bring economic and diplomatic benefits. Its defence pact, not anti-India alliance.

 

[lightning f57]

Pak and SA should not look to expand this defence pact, atleast for now.

Focus should be on putting in place a command, communication structure which is ready to kick in when there is a threat on the horizon. They need to put in place infrastructure, equipment so they have interoperability and can fight together. They should as I mentioned earlier lobby China hard and get a customised J35 made for them both.

This will take some years, first become a potent defensive force then consider expanding. No point becoming an OIC 2.0 which is a waste of time unfortunately these days.

 

[alphapak]

zardari visited Chengdu and he was briefed on j10 jf 17 and j20. am not saying is available but may be some exception be made.

Don't think China will ever export J20 just like USA does not export F22.

Both Pak and Saudi should go for J35.

 

[RealNapster]

Back to the topic brothers.
There needs to be a focus on rapid mobilisation and routes which can be used to aid one another very quickly secure.


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The distance is small and the nations lie more or less parallel to each other. Air corridors are straight forward, the Pakistan and Saudi navy can look at establishing a joint presence in maybe Oman to reduce logistical spread.

2 bases one close to Israel and one in-between Mecca and Madina. Both capable of accommodating 8000-10000 normal and 20 thousand maximum soldiers along with runways and 2 Squadrons per base. And add one naval base.