Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

[Meengla]

Whatever has unfolded and is still unfolding feels like something from the twilight zone..... everything you look at was unthinkable just few months ago..... bonhomie between US and Pakistan and Pakistan playing outsized role in international politics.... providing nuclear umbrella to Saudi Arabia and no criticism from West........ honestly bro , everything is so spooky.

Indeed feels like a 'Twilight Zone' episode and it is not just PDF members who are dumbfounded--you'd see Western analysts too dumbfounded over the developments in just 2025 alone; I am sure the Kugelmans and the Christian Faire like people, who follow India Pakistan, are also scratching their heads like us!! But it was Trump who is the single handedly the most important factor in most of geopolitical events of 2025. Amazing clout just one person holds over billions of people!!!
BTW, I didn't vote for Trump because I knew he was going to be even more brutal to the Palestinians then even Biden was, and Biden was himself the lowest of the lows; and I believe my fear of Trump on that count have been borne true. But on other things, I don't mind Trump much!

 

[ghazi52]

If we lose the match on Sunday, we will not lose alone, Saudi Arabia will also lose with us.

 

[maxpane]

am no body here i just write some lines and i know its all messy . am ready to learn from you senior guys. feel free to correct me. thanks in advance
Trump cant control israel rekless behavious because strong lobby and some may be epstein files as a result reckless behaviour of israel threatend the whole middle east.
why Qatar attack is very important ?
Doha is capital and as some one pointed out that there was exerise going on and jets were in the air but still they could not do anything.
In may , india attacked Pakistani cities , there was frustration in public . now imagine frustration in gulf, it was capital and it was broad day light and israel just told that even their palaces and capital are not safe from us.
i cant say that arabs were involved but it showed that how expose they are and what people are thinking in the gulf.
so why pakistan because after attack trump allow that alliance so a third country can deter the israel reckless behaviour defensively. we all know there wnt be an offensive.
ks would buy some defensive products and trump can show the maga they ares selling and indirectly counter israel.
gulf would get reliable partner which is accepted by both powers
its not about usa, china is also involved,china wants middle eastern market . after iran ksa reconcilliation , they can extend cpec to gulf and from that to africa. they can sell defence products to Pakistan and can counter usa string attached products.
pakistan can get some relief and build economy. we have to educate our youth in science and for propsperity we need peace as operation sindoor would officially closed

 

[A1Kaid]

Pakistan needs to build 3 bases in Saudi, raise and deploy 300k troops, and a base in muscat to keep an eye on the port and provide some strategic depth.

PN will need heavy investment to secure supply routes and PAF for 5th gen capability.

They should also move 20-30 warheads to Saudi for 2nd strike.

I think we will definitely see a large military expansion and rapid modernization plan and new joint command.

 

[TAC]

Whatever has unfolded and is still unfolding feels like something from the twilight zone..... everything you look at was unthinkable just few months ago..... bonhomie between US and Pakistan and Pakistan playing outsized role in international politics.... providing nuclear umbrella to Saudi Arabia and no criticism from West........ honestly bro , everything is so spooky.

Remember Pravin saying that after botched Sindoor, Pakistan’s image has been elevated exponentially throughout the world. All these are related results.

 

[HRK]

am no body here i just write some lines and i know its all messy . am ready to learn from you senior guys. feel free to correct me. thanks in advance
Trump cant control israel rekless behavious because strong lobby and some may be epstein files as a result reckless behaviour of israel threatend the whole middle east.
why Qatar attack is very important ?
Doha is capital and as some one pointed out that there was exerise going on and jets were in the air but still they could not do anything.
In may , india attacked Pakistani cities , there was frustration in public . now imagine frustration in gulf, it was capital and it was broad day light and israel just told that even their palaces and capital are not safe from us.
i cant say that arabs were involved but it showed that how expose they are and what people are thinking in the gulf.
so why pakistan because after attack trump allow that alliance so a third country can deter the israel reckless behaviour defensively. we all know there wnt be an offensive.
ks would buy some defensive products and trump can show the maga they ares selling and indirectly counter israel.
gulf would get reliable partner which is accepted by both powers
its not about usa, china is also involved,china wants middle eastern market . after iran ksa reconcilliation , they can extend cpec to gulf and from that to africa. they can sell defence products to Pakistan and can counter usa string attached products.
pakistan can get some relief and build economy. we have to educate our youth in science and for propsperity we need peace as operation sindoor would officially closed

Possibilities are countless so are the threats .... In more simple words MENA+ region could not remain in perpetually destabilize sate but there are not many factors or forces which could stabilize it.

On the other hand there are many revisionist forces and states in the region which would always act and contribute in the destabilization of the region.

Only thing we can say for sure is that with in few years let say 3-5 years time frame MENA+ Region would not be same as it is right now

 

[HRK]

Remember Pravin saying that after botched Sindoor, Pakistan’s image has been elevated exponentially throughout the world. All these are related results.

Operation Sandoor has resulted in similar manner for India as Kargil operation resulted for Pakistan.

 

[maxpane]

thank you. i totally missed that if there possibilities then there challenges also biggest challange is can the both countries will held the pact against challenges which would come in future yeah am more passionate then reason able in that writing

 

[PakAl]

I don't think we will do a defence pact with the UAE. Those guys are too close to Indians and Israelis and they have been indirectly involved in facilitating unrest in Balochistan and elsewhere in the Middle East. I hope I'm wrong but they don't have a good reputation. Oman too has cozied up to Indians. There is some sort of Indian navy presence there. Qatar sounds way more logical here....

Saudia is also responsible for spreading monster terrorist ideology around the world, they gave majority of the funds, fake quran translations and the rest.

 

[Meengla]

Trump cant control israel rekless behavious because strong lobby and some may be epstein files as a result reckless behaviour of israel threatend the whole middle east.

Trump might be THE most pro Israel American President in history and I don't think a J.D Vance is going to be like Trump on Israel and I believe Kamala Harris, the 'communist', would have been very harsh on Israel, but we will never know that now, of course.
But Israel's real strength is its hold over the American political system and so examine that a bit: Look at who in the American Senate are voting to support a Palestinian State these days?? All Democrats or Democrat allies like Bernie Sanders. How many Republicans now or during the Biden Presidency supporting Palestinians in either the House or the Senate?? Virtually Zero!!!! But that kind of analytics was lost to the stupid Muslim Imams of Michigan who couldn't see beyond Biden's personal Zionism to think for a future beyond Biden--no wonder Israelis whoop the sorry, stupid Muslim behinds!! Otherwise, both communities have about the same percentage in American population to be a factor but one is smarter, a lot smarter.
Having said that, it is time to look to future and my hunch is that Americans, even Trump, have the 'Israel Fatigue'; a fatigue which is distracting from focusing on China. And it is a huge diplomatic Albatross on the American neck. So why not let Pakistan be a guarantor to protect the American allies like Saudi Arabia; I don't think Americans have any interest in destabilizing Saudi Arabia even if they can't control Israel due to America's domestic politics. So it is quite possible that the Saudi-Pakistan agreement is a subtle messaging from America to Israel to behave and don't upset the Applecart of the Middle East. Israel's messianic moves have already bled America too much.

 

[PakShaheen_79]

Ijaz Haider On the Pact.

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[Abdul q]

I will believe it when Arabic puppets will have PAF airbases and top notch Chinese and local equipment inside those based including J-10c …

 

[PakistaniDefender]

He has a point, she has strong MILF vibes

i wont mind her putting hand cuffs on me and torture me for being Pakistani

 

[PakistaniDefender]

we will see heavy flow of direct funds into Pakistan's defense procurements and defense industry from KSA, aiding in large ticket purchases (FGFA, naval ships, and missile systems ect). You may start seeing a significant coordination of hardware purchasing to enhance interoperability between the services.

I am hoping for F16Vs+Blk 72s and Type 52D class destroyers

 

[Goenitz]

Firstly, let's change the title if there is no clear Nuclear Umbrella deal. Lastly, I would appreciate it if we could explore how other sectors, such as agriculture and housing, can be mutually strengthened beyond defence.