Chinese SAC - FC-31/J-35 5th Gen Stealth Aircraft

SolarWarden said:
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F-22's in Kadena Okinawa
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Seriously what is it with you lazy celestials? All you have to do is google and it's right there. :rolleyes:
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Kadena Air Base only has permanent F-15s, and F-22s are only stationed on rotation.
 
LX1111 said:
Kadena Air Base only has permanent F-15s, and F-22s are only stationed on rotation.
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You posted the "F-22's don't have the range to fly into a western pacific theater."

Obviously that is not true and I corrected you.
 
LX1111 said:
At present, there are four main steps in the upgrade of WS-13.
1. 011 replaced the four-stage fan of RD-33 with the three-stage fan of the original WS-12. The new fan increase the flow rate by 6 kilograms per second, and raised the maximum thrust to 9.06 tons (88.94KN).
2.Using a brand-new 011 and a low-pressure turbine jointly developed by Klimov, the working temperature of the new low-pressure turbine can be increased by 70 degrees, and its working efficiency is also higher. With this turbine, the potential of the new three-stage fan can be better exploited. After the improvement, the maximum thrust reaches 9.28 tons (91.1KN).
3. 011 redesigned the backward combustion chamber of the RD-33, significantly reducing the problem of black smoke from the RD-33's oil-rich combustion,Greatly reduced fuel consumption and increased service life
4.011 replaced the original directionally solidified turbine blades with DD6 single crystal turbine blades, which raised the operating temperature of the turbine by another 50-70 degrees and increased the engine thrust to 9.5 tons
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This is the development history from WS-13 to WS-21 that I know of.
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The WS-13 and WS-21 series engines share a similar core structure to the original RD-33 series engines.

The main reason for this is:

They are primarily targeted at the international trade market. Their target competitors are the RD-33 series engines and their subsequent upgraded model, the RD-93 series. In addition to the JF-17, fighter jets equipped with these engines include the MiG-29 series, which has a very broad international customer base.

Thus, their basic structures remain consistent. This significantly reduces maintenance costs for their target customers. Maintenance platforms and ground crews for the RD-33/RD-93 series engines can easily transition to the WS-13/WS-21 engines in a very short period of time.

As for their performance data, I have nothing to say.
 
Michael said:
The WS-13 and WS-21 series engines share a similar core structure to the original RD-33 series engines.

The main reason for this is:

They are primarily targeted at the international trade market. Their target competitors are the RD-33 series engines and their subsequent upgraded model, the RD-93 series. In addition to the JF-17, fighter jets equipped with these engines include the MiG-29 series, which has a very broad international customer base.

Thus, their basic structures remain consistent. This significantly reduces maintenance costs for their target customers. Maintenance platforms and ground crews for the RD-33/RD-93 series engines can easily transition to the WS-13/WS-21 engines in a very short period of time.

As for their performance data, I have nothing to say.
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The design of the RD-33 engine is not very advanced. I learned from some students majoring in aeroengine that although the RD-33 structural design does not lack some advanced and sophisticated technologies, it is generally complex and backward, like a hodgepodge.
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The core engine of the WS-19/21 has been completely replaced. First of all, the combustion chamber of the J-35 does not produce as much black smoke as the MIG-29. It is said that the smoke exhaust value of the combustion chamber has been reduced by nearly 40%.The high-pressure turbine section uses 100% dd9 single crystal alloy for the working blades and guide vanes.
The high-pressure compressor section has also been reduced from seven stages to six stages.
So 011 has completely upgraded WS21
 
LX1111 said:
The design of the RD-33 engine is not very advanced. I learned from some students majoring in aeroengine that although the RD-33 structural design does not lack some advanced and sophisticated technologies, it is generally complex and backward, like a hodgepodge.
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The core engine of the WS-19/21 has been completely replaced. First of all, the combustion chamber of the J-35 does not produce as much black smoke as the MIG-29. It is said that the smoke exhaust value of the combustion chamber has been reduced by nearly 40%.The high-pressure turbine section uses 100% dd9 single crystal alloy for the working blades and guide vanes.
The high-pressure compressor section has also been reduced from seven stages to six stages.
So 011 has completely upgraded WS21
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Specific technical issues are not appropriate to discuss here.
 
SolarWarden said:
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F-22's in Kadena Okinawa
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Mostly based in. Learn to read moron.

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The implication there is that I'm referring to the US continental based F-22s don't have the range to fly anywhere near to the western pacific. There are F-22s based in Japan. That category falls under the 1-"mostly". Fucking talking to a potato here.

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F-22s based in the US indeed don't have anywhere near the range to fly into western pacific theatre.
 
Reference image of the J-35A cockpit.
Note: This is a 1:1 mockup of the J-35A fighter jet at the air show, not an actual fighter jet. This is a joint advertisement for Hongqi and the J-35A. It only has a certain reference value.
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Michael said:
Reference image of the J-35A cockpit.
Note: This is a 1:1 mockup of the J-35A fighter jet at the air show, not an actual fighter jet. This is a joint advertisement for Hongqi and the J-35A. It only has a certain reference value.
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This is the best image of the real cockpit so far

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Official News:
The J-35A has been officially named "云龙"!
Chinese Pinyin: Yun Long
English Translation: Cloud Dragon(Dragon in the Cloud)
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Note:
This refers to the J-35A, the official PLAAF version.
It does not include the naval carrier-based J-35, which is officially called the "蓝鲨(Blue Shark)."

In theory, the export version of the FC-31/J-35 will continue to use the PLAAF's nomenclature, meaning it will also be called "Cloud Dragon." However, until the official announcement is made, this is just speculation.
 
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maxpane said:
Yinglong (應龍): The Responsive Dragon, a winged creature that helped the mythical ruler Yu regulate floods and create rivers by drawing lines in the earth with its tail.
is this the one?
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In Chinese culture, dragons are a vast race, not just a single entity. Different dragons are responsible for different tasks and have different names.

There are many mythological stories about this, and it's not appropriate to discuss them here. If you're interested, you can discuss them in other threads.
 
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