Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

[Maarkhoor]

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[arsalan345]

why trump wants bagram right now? keep a close eye on united states. either they want to put pressure on paf or might hand over bagram to israel secretly. everything is so fast. something will happen soon in this region.

 

[maxpane]

@Yasser76 whats big news we cannot comment in j 35 thread

 

[Yasser76]

@Yasser76 whats big news we cannot comment in j 35 thread

@Fatman17 Notice this thread on J-35 was closed?

 

[aurelianpilled]

As I suspected, the GCC have quietly dumped the Egyptians....

Exclusive: Egypt’s Nato-style Arab defence force proposal rejected at Doha summit​

Exclusive: Egypt’s Nato-style Arab defence force proposal rejected at Doha summit

President Abdel Fatah Sisi left Qatar 'deeply frustrated' after Gulf states rejected his bid, diplomats tell Middle East Eye

www.middleeasteye.net

I don't want to sound rude but the Egyptian leadership really sold their ass to the Americans and, to some extent, to the Israelis as well after losing Sinai in 1967 and again in the 1973 try and signing the peace treaty in 1979 (Camp David Accords).

I have always thought about that treaty and compared the 1979 accords to Pakistan's 1971 defeat. Like, Pakistan surely had options to sign an everlasting peace treaty, apart from the Shimla Agreement, with India to be India's everlasting bitch after losing the 1971 war, but we didn't. We fought the aggressors and the manipulators (India) and kept our sovereignty, honor, and integrity, but didn't sell our ass to India or even the US. Unlike Egypt, we rebuilt our military strength and pursued the nuclear deterrent vs. a 7 times larger enemy with its quite some dangerous allies.

Meanwhile, Egypt started depending solely on America after their defeat in 1967 and 1973 (strategic partial win initially but later routed by the Israeli forces) and it is because of the Israeli acceptance that they are still getting all that annual American aid/weapons.

I just did some research, Egypt has received more than $100bn in American military (FMF) and economic (ESF) aid since 1979. Bro, ~$100bn+ since that 'Egypt becoming an American client state' treaty in 1979.

 

[Mobius]

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[Yasser76]

I don't want to sound rude but the Egyptian leadership really sold their ass to the Americans and, to some extent, to the Israelis as well after losing Sinai in 1967 and again in the 1973 try and signing the peace treaty in 1979 (Camp David Accords).

I have always thought about that treaty and compared the 1979 accords to Pakistan's 1971 defeat. Like, Pakistan surely had options to sign an everlasting peace treaty, apart from the Shimla Agreement, with India to be India's everlasting bitch after losing the 1971 war, but we didn't. We fought the aggressors and the manipulators (India) and kept our sovereignty, honor, and integrity, but didn't sell our ass to India or even the US. Unlike Egypt, we rebuilt our military strength and pursued the nuclear deterrent vs. a 7 times larger enemy with its quite some dangerous allies.

Meanwhile, Egypt started depending solely on America after their defeat in 1967 and 1973 (strategic partial win initially but later routed by the Israeli forces) and it is because of the Israeli acceptance that they are still getting all that annual American aid/weapons.

I just did some research, Egypt has received more than $100bn in American military (FMF) and economic (ESF) aid since 1979. Bro, ~$100bn+ since that 'Egypt becoming an American client state' treaty in 1979.

100% This, Well said

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

hahahaha.......

Why you keep polluting the thread with LOWEST quality content. "Israel finished in 11 minutes". What a childish video. Totally immature content.

You have posted 19000 posts but you have not learned a single thing yet. Still incredibly immature. You really think United States which is present with all its glory in middle east will let you destroy its most prized ally ? Do you really think you can do ANYTHING in middleeast without their approval let alone destroying Israel ?

Why don't you try to grow up a bit. You have nominated TRUMP for peace prize. FM's biggest achievement was to have lunch with him. Offering minerals and everything and you think you can go against them and bomb Israel ??? LMAO!

Not even going to technicalities that how you are going to deal with F-35s or Planet's most advance air defense system but this is a non-starter from geo political perspective. Pakistani current regime is 100% PRO-American. They can't even think to go against the MOST VALUED US ally that's Israel.

I think the reason you're mind is not maturing because of the LOWEST quality content that you watch in youtube or social media.

Here's what this deal is all about:

Shamshad Hasan: KSA - Pakistan agreement is part of ABRAHAM accords.

General Tariq Khan: Its impossible for Pakistani military to do anything or even fly an aircraft in middleeast without US approval.

Overall, its not a bad deal. Perhaps good for us. But please don't link it against Israel. Yes it may serve as signaling to Israel from KSA's point of view at best. But nothing more then that.

answer to this will come from South China sea when PLAN will deploy J35 on its aircraft carriers

its a deal which gives a feeling, that deal have been done during Musharaf.

(i hope you can see now, why deal was not made during Musharraf era!)

 

[muhammed45]

I don't want to sound rude but the Egyptian leadership really sold their ass to the Americans and, to some extent, to the Israelis as well after losing Sinai in 1967 and again in the 1973 try and signing the peace treaty in 1979 (Camp David Accords).

I have always thought about that treaty and compared the 1979 accords to Pakistan's 1971 defeat. Like, Pakistan surely had options to sign an everlasting peace treaty, apart from the Shimla Agreement, with India to be India's everlasting bitch after losing the 1971 war, but we didn't. We fought the aggressors and the manipulators (India) and kept our sovereignty, honor, and integrity, but didn't sell our ass to India or even the US. Unlike Egypt, we rebuilt our military strength and pursued the nuclear deterrent vs. a 7 times larger enemy with its quite some dangerous allies.

Meanwhile, Egypt started depending solely on America after their defeat in 1967 and 1973 (strategic partial win initially but later routed by the Israeli forces) and it is because of the Israeli acceptance that they are still getting all that annual American aid/weapons.

I just did some research, Egypt has received more than $100bn in American military (FMF) and economic (ESF) aid since 1979. Bro, ~$100bn+ since that 'Egypt becoming an American client state' treaty in 1979.

Its unfair to compare Egypt to Pakistan. Egypt under Nasser was a great power and they fought the whole AngloSaxon front and western navies simultaneously. If it were not for treason of MB and their western supporters, today Israel couldn't exist.

Anwar Sadat was a piece of shit, its true. But Egypt as a country still has great potentials. Hope this old country with that old civilization behind itself rises again.

 

[BrigSmart]

In a close, friendly meeting with the President of the largest chamber of commerce in Pakistan today, a small focused discussion took place as a side items towards Saudi-Pakistan defense agreement.

He outlined that he was invited by the Saudi Commercial attaché to prepare business and labor proposals to be presented to the Saudi embassy within a few weeks. He specifically mentioned that at this time, he is in touch with 3 different Arab countries. They all want Pakistani labor primarily and labor from Muslim nations, but the trust from Indian labor has eroded.

He also said that these governments due to this WAPAN pact related considerations, think that integrating Pakistani labor and culture within their system is now needed so to allow easy integration of both societies. He cited an example of similar actions taken by the USA back in the late 90's allowing mass Indian migration to the US hoping they will form a defense partnership against China but India bailed out after taking the US jobs and economic help.

Cool story bro. India was under extensive US sanctions in the late 90s.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Its unfair to compare Egypt to Pakistan. Egypt under Nasser was a great power and they fought the whole AngloSaxon front and western navies simultaneously. If it were not for treason of MB and their western supporters, today Israel couldn't exist.

Anwar Sadat was a piece of shit, its true. But Egypt as a country still has great potentials. Hope this old country with that old civilization behind itself rises again.

future cannot be looked in past!

and only 'stoned' eyes can see future in the past!

because stone is not meant to have eyes!


by your logic, India should be the greatest power in South Asia!
you rightly deserve their treachery then!

 

[aurelianpilled]

Its unfair to compare Egypt to Pakistan. Egypt under Nasser was a great power and they fought the whole AngloSaxon front and western navies simultaneously. If it were not for treason of MB and their western supporters, today Israel couldn't exist.

Anwar Sadat was a piece of shit, its true. But Egypt as a country still has great potentials. Hope this old country with that old civilization behind itself rises again.

I was specifically comparing the events after a military defeat in the context of Pakistan and Egypt. To sum up my yapping, all I was referring to is how Pakistan didn't sign ANY submissive treaty with India or anyone else after the 1971 war, whereas Egypt surely did after the 1973 war, and they are submissive to this very day against America and Israel.

The difference is simple: Pakistan turned the 1971 defeat into 'Never Again' nuclear deterrence. Egypt turned the 1973 defeat into American and Israeli dependence.

I love Egypt, its people, and its history, and I would love to see them in our pact, but the Pakistani nuclear umbrella just next to or completely surrounding Israel? Highly unlikely since America would do ANYTHING to maintain the Israeli edge in the region and would pressure Egypt. I just want them to try to maintain the dependence level, JUST like Pakistan, we try to benefit from both, China and the US, and majority of Pakistanis are all happy about it.

 

[RajaBaja]

Cool story bro. India was under extensive US sanctions in the late 90s.

What does India has do with what's going on with Pakistan and the middle eastern nations? Why do you guys bring India into everything?

 

[RajaBaja]

Oh I see now! You are also the ones who are pathetically seeing everything from corrupted political angles. That's why you are doing nothing but making a joke out of yourself with your immature content.

and btw "jeans" LOL! Jahil insaan, no wonder you are producing the lowest quality content in this forum.

You are a hopeless character at this point. Seeing cheapest material / 100% lies and propaganda in youtube 24/7 has corrupted your mind beyond a chance for repair. A lost case! Just remember this. Normally I do honest effort on people so they can see beyond their narrow mindset but I can see that if you talk like that after 19000 posts then its no use here.

Gents - Please take politics outside of this threat. I dislike politics, but the truth should be told. Had this been IK gov't, Saudis would've done a pact with India like Indians were dying for. I know so many here are IK fans but you should first be honest to the nation you and your ancestors belong to. The 5 day war, would've turned into 1 day defeat because under IK's "unwilling" to fight India, they would've simply told us "we didn't have the money to put Petrol in tanks, so we couldn't defend ourselves". But let's get away from politics and contribute to the topic. It's about Pakistan!

 

[ahtan_china]

At present, Pakistan's military advantage in the Middle East is in vain. Nine years ago, Iran introduced J-10 fighter jets and negotiated with China. But Iran was more inclined towards Western weapons, resulting in the failure of negotiations. Finally, the J-10 stood out in the 5/7 air battle between Pakistan and India. There is a saying in China: choice is greater than effort. It is very suitable for use in Pakistan.