Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

Bro don't quote Pakistani journalist and politicians on this matter 99% of them are not even have knowledge of matters they are reporting. For them nuclear weapons is like Macdonald of KFC takeout food...

They don't even have the concept of escalation ladder in any event of war or attack.

They don't understand that 'nuclear weapons are not the weapons for use but weapons for deterrence only'.

Nuclear capabilities just complex the situation for aggressive party in case they plan to escalate the matter to the point where the read lines are drawn.

In most simple words now after this agreement "for Pakistan sanctity of territorial boundaries of KSA is equal to sanctity of territorial boundaries of Pakistan which means we would respond to any attempt of violation in similar manner as we responded in past when Indian tried to attack Pakistan"

This, by the way, shows that you really didn't observe or analyze who Israel did kill in its campaigns over Iran.

How the Chief of Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces (Mohamed Bagheri), C-in-C of IRGC (Hossein Salami), Commander of the IRGC Aerospace Force (Amir Ali Hajizadeh), Head of IRGC Intelligence (Mohamed Kazami), and dozens more important figures were 'almost retired age old military men killed in the street'?

And, I am not even talking about the nuclear/IT scientists killed in Israeli strikes.

Apparently, Israel targeted them with quite some precision, here, an Israeli strike that probably took out an Iranian commander in Tehran on June 13.

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I know that you are not an Iranian but if this was coming from an Iranian then I would have straight up said that this level of copium huffing is really dangerous for Iran, similar to the Indians cope, along with hopium huffing, over their pathetic air force lol.
This looks like laser guidance, indicating there must be someone working for Israel inside Iran using the laser designator on that building. Did Iran caught Indian agents working for Israel?
 
- Is this a TRUE questions? How will Zion have control? Is this really a REAL question???? A nation that controls the entire US leadership and it's military, can't get intelligence from Bagram airbase?

- Next question. Same thing, again is this a REAL question? Why do they need Afghanistan when India can do it for them? Do you not see Trump and Indian relations right now? And when US can have its own place BUILT by it already with full control, why would it go elsewhere?

Will India allow the US to keep 50 aircrafts, thousands of troops, and daily flights of dozens of airplanes in and out of its airspace? The simple answer is.... HELL NO!

Lastly, I always try to deal with people with respect. People ask questions, counter questions, etc. We are here to debate. Not verbally assault or abuse others. But it's becoming a point of frustration with you and a couple of your "homies" here.

This is like the 5th time you've tried to come across insulting along with your gang. If you don't like what I write, ignore it. Better yet, instead of trying to make someone look "BAD", try to look yourself "GOOD" by asking intelligent questions.

Focus on yourself, not on others!
Bro, people are asking "intelligent" questions but you keep providing foolish answers. 🤔

Everything you say sounds like a conspiracy theory.

Again, why does the US need the Bagram airbase to spy on Pakistan?

Does the US currently not have the ability to spy on Pakistan from the Indian ocean, Qatar and space?

If you and the darpoke @arsalan345 believe that the US and Zion are too powerful for Afghans, what makes you think Pakistan can ignore their request to station their assets at the Shamsi airbase, if that were the case?

Which YouTube channel do you guys learn these conspiracy theories from? It's very childish but I am interested.
 
Bro, people are asking "intelligent" questions but you keep providing foolish answers. 🤔

Everything you say sounds like a conspiracy theory.

Again, why does the US need the Bagram airbase to spy on Pakistan?

Does the US currently not have the ability to spy on Pakistan from the Indian ocean, Qatar and space?

If you and the darpoke @arsalan345 believe that the US and Zion are too powerful for Afghans, what makes you think Pakistan can ignore their request to station their assets at the Shamsi airbase, if that were the case?

Which YouTube channel do you guys learn these conspiracy theories from? It's very childish but I am interested.

Comon bro let him express himself. He gives detailed responses and it should be encouraged.
 
There was a discussion on this topic day before yesterday. The US will get the Bagram airbase, no questions. Israel asked the US lawmakers when Rubio and other law makers were visiting Israel the day we signed that defense contract with KSA.

It's per Israel's orders to monitor Pakistan. Since the US has critical minerals interest and they want to keep Pakistan close, they are using a baseless argument about "keeping an eye on China". But the reality is, it's just for Pakistan. To come here and go, they will use the NATO corridor we established with P-8's, RC-135, Global Hawks, flying through it covering the entire Pakistani airspace for monitoring. Bagram based sensors cover area up to Islamabad.
Are you for real raja ?.....on the one hand you are going gaga about the accomplishments of the present setup and then you are portraying them as dummies who will let the Americans takeover Bagram and keep Pakistan under check....get it in your head sir , we have been playing balls with the Americans for more than 60 years. . we never let the Americans play foul with us and get away without paying the penalty.
 
This looks like laser guidance, indicating there must be someone working for Israel inside Iran using the laser designator on that building. Did Iran caught Indian agents working for Israel?
Many people were arrested and executed sone were Iranian National, majority were Afghan refugees and as per some unauthentic reports some Indian were also arrested.

Israel had many drone factories inside Iran which were used to manufacture/ assemble drones inside Iran to attack target of interest. Iran discovered those factories after the attack
 
Saudi F-15s produced significant effects in Yemen but the KSA gave up due to the UN simping for the Houthi.
There was no ‘simping’ - the UN and international criticism of the Saudi led war in Yemen was justified given the atrocities being committed and the suffering of non-combatants.

I get that this agreement could have significant benefits for Pakistan, but lets not start justifying and excusing prior mistakes and crimes by the Saudis.
 
This also tells why pakistan has always been target of interest for anti islam. Whenever we get better days its always america and its proxies creating same issues to destabilize us pakistanis.
Seems like negotiations have started !

( This will create problems for Pakistan of course ).
 
I know that other than Indians, the followers of the Messiah Khan of Pakistan are the most disappointed ones. You know, nothing good can ever happen in Pakistan unless the Great Khan is in power. As to your post: Tell me when was the most consequential clause ever present in the past agreements??
Your post and the 'Likes' you got show how much some Pakistanis, especially the expats, are aligned with the Indians.
I wouldn’t say disappointment as much as skepticism until more tangible details or developments take place under this agreement.
 
I am talking about ground reality. I don't live in delusions like pak didn't allow NATO to settle in afghanistan hahaha. are you joking? they all left with their own will. Pak didn't force anyone to leave afghanistan. Donald trump is man of words. Few assasinations among top taliban leadership or couple of airstrikes will force taliban to give airbases to united states which uncle sam can use to spy on PAF and to provide intelligence to IDF.United states is superpower and daddy of all countries including Pakistan so please stop this assumption that pak didn't allow this, that.
The silver-lining is the Pak military knows how to hide its stuffs from the USA....
 
Surprisingly, there is not as much talk among Pakistanis about replacing, or at least reducing, the Indian labor in the Middle East while the Indian analysts/bloggers are very rightly concerned about that potential development. On the contrary, some Pakistanis still worry about the 'brain drain'?!!

I’ve been saying that Indians in Arab countries are part of the Israeli-US-Indian occupation force. Indian workers and American military bases are an integral part of Israeli control over Arab countries. It obviously follows that to liberate Muslim countries these two must go.

Regarding Pakistanis getting more jobs in Saudi Arabia, I support it. However, my issue is with the idea that we can let Pakistan remain sunk in illiteracy, corruption, and poverty while letting people go to other countries for jobs.

That’s a very moronic way of running a country. There may be 10 million Pakistanis living abroad but the country keeps begging for a couple of billion dollars from the IMF. What kind of an economy is that?

All I need to say is that Asif Ali Zardari is the President of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. That’s enough to understand how Pakistan in run today.
 
That’s a very moronic way of running a country. There may be 10 million Pakistanis living abroad but the country keeps begging for a couple of billion dollars from the IMF. What kind of an economy is that?

And the country would be begging even more had the 10 million Pakistanis not been sending the remittance to Pakistan!! The idea of the brain drain is dead brained! Pakistan has too much surplus labor, much like India and most of the poor countries. They are all desperate to 'export' their labor and the destinations are the relatively cash rich western Europe, the GCC Middle East and the Anglos countries.
Also, I don't agree with some here are implying: The expats just send money which is used in real estate investments like worthless projects. That's not what's happening. Money gets sent to families which use that in many ways, including educating their kids and the money gets pumped into different segments of the economy, creating jobs, preventing people from becoming beggars and criminals. Sure, there could be better ways to harness the huge remittance but that has to happen 'organically' and can't happen because the society, on the whole, is not smart enough for that.
But by having more educated people, with fresh ideas which the expats often bring, a smarter next generation gets formed.
 
If true than IK is a liability for the Pak Deep State for his extreme ego....
Yes, indeed. The deep state brought him into power by massively rigging the general elections of 2018 and then soon after it started regretting for their own stupidity.

During Imran Khotakhail's days in power, the deep state was responsible for ensuring the bills pass through the parliament (by forcing the small parties to support IK government) till IK was kicked out. There was nothing like a governance during his rule. He proved to be an extremely corrupt greedy dog. Also, extremely corrupt persons were deputed as chief minsters of provinces. Appointments at key positions were sold (and res-sold after a month or so). Part of proceeds allegedly was making its way to the PM house. Some bureaucrats were openly remarking that corruption was always an issue in Pakistan but these greedy dogs of IK government are doing it in such a way as if they will never get a second chance. On the external front, Pak's foreign policy almost collapsed with all Pak allies (China, Saudia, Turkiye, etc.) disgruntled even with many intentional snubs to Pak ministers (and Imran himself) by KSA and China.

But the top brass still kept it going for its own personal interests (Bajwa for extensions to complete his mission - noor? - and Faiz Hameed to become army chief and subsequently to start his own game) at the cost of national interest. Then the PAk army, in an institutional move, collectively decided in a formation commanders meeting to get neutral in political matters. So, they stopped managing the required support for IK government in the parliament. As a result, IK was soon kicked out of power through a constitutional procedure even though he tried several unconstitutional moves to defeat a looming vote counting for the no-confidence resolution in the national assembly. He also tried to stir a massive anti-America movement in Pakistan to portray that it was a regime change operation by Americans.

Bajwa and Faiz Hameed still kept moving the political strings even after the ouster of Imran's government while pursuing their personal agendas. In the meantime, a habitual offender, Imran Khotakhail, kept committing grave crimes against the state including even planning and attacking military installments in order to get into the power again.

Now that Zionist mole is rotting in jail with scores of more cases waiting for court hearings. The sick-minded criminal has committed so many crimes against the state that there is almost zero chance for him to come out of jail. He will probably die in jail if not hanged.
 
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.... Saudi F-15s produced significant effects in Yemen but the KSA gave up due to the UN simping for the Houthi. ...
I heard that RSAF's success rate of airstrikes was less than 20% at the start of the conflict. They simply didn't know how to use the high-tech weaponry to their full potential. 🤔
 

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