Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ToddE]

That is a very shameless and revisionist take. Arabs had by and large made up with zionist entity. Neighboring states were either crippled or had accords. The remaining were heading for an Abraham Accord.
It just tells me that you do not understand the nature of the beast. Zionists are full blown cultists cultivating an apocalypse in which their main foe among the nations of the world ganging up on them is Persia! You think if shah was around they'd give Iran a pass?
They have to fight this war, for secular purposes to be the sole power in the region and create a power vacuum that collapses all regional states into their constituent parts... atomize them so they can be the big fish in the pond... as small as they are! Second, to call in their demon king to rule the messianic age for the religious ones.

Now bicker and tinker... rue the high skies... you don't want no part of it and just want the glory days. Well there is cost for that... either way... they'll manufacture their crises and their war.

Repeat with me so you get this settled in your brain. Throughout this Palestinian genocide by Israel:

- Not a single Muslim Arab country shut down its ties with Israel. Not one. Embassies, consulates, diplomatic channels all open for business as usual. Nobody even pretended to care except for Lip Service here and a "protest" there.
- Turkey kept sending 6 Billion USD worth of raw materials annually to Israel like clockwork while "Sunni" Palestinians were being shredded by IDF, Turkey didn’t stop for even a second. Erdogan barks alot for local consumption but like a loyal pet, he proved it to Jews that as long as he is sitting there, Israel has nothing to worry about North and West.
- Azerbaijan kept oil flowing to Israel, Business as usual.
- Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Central Asian and North African muslim countries did not fire a single bullet in the direction of Israel, directly or indirectly. Lip services only.

Meanwhile Iran from its own soil fired 1000+ Ballistic missiles on Israel, losing thousands of soldiers, scientists, Generals, civilians in the return. IRI wasted 500+ Billion USD of Iranian nation on raising Arab armies against Israel. Our country is under crippling sanctions for 25 years because of Ayatollah's war on Israel. Even right now Khat addicted Yemeni Houthis are firing Iranian built/supplied/funded drones and missiles at Israel. Why should Iran suffer this ? And for what? So everyone else can keep doing trade with Israel and then clap politely when Iranian nation suffers? Half of the "Islamic world" is buried under WB/IMF debts borrowing money from the same Anglo-Jewish financial institutions they pretend to oppose. Half of GDP of Turkey is built upon foreign debt, they wont do shit against Israel on ground but you expect Iran to sacrifice itself in Palestinian cause?

IRI runs at 1/10th of its real projected GDP because it can’t sell oil freely thanks to sanctions in name of "Palestine". If it could, its economy would rival France based upon second largest Hydrocarbon reserves in the world. Instead, thousands of Iranians have died because of unnecessary wars with Israel/US while everyone else from Islamic world looks the other way. We’re not even Arabs. This IRI government keeps sacrificing our people, our wealth, our society for a cause nobody else in the Islamic world truly cares about. No free oil exports, no nuclear program, no conventional military strength, no economy, educated STEM grad youth leaving in droves all in the name of Palestine while every other Islamic country is too busy sucking Jew balls for more debts and trade deals. So please explain why Iran should keep suffering alone while the rest of the Islamic world is just not bothered.

 

[ToddE]

Man these IRI/Khamenei cultists are shameless weirdos of another degree. If we counter them about failure economy, deaths of thousand Iranian women and children for no reason, failure of defence policies, they would start laughing like its a funny matter to them that our nation and nationals are being sacrificed. I wonder what happened to our nation that our women gave birth to these traitor types in bulk with low IQs? Is it self hatred ? lack of understanding of world or what ?

 

[Sarhang]

Iran's Intelligence Minister stated that the country possesses even more documents, images, and recordings, the most relevant of which have not been released and may be presented in the future if necessary.

Compared to previous "leaks," the information broadcast by Iranian TV appears very damaging.

Iranian intelligence obtained real official drawings of ships, reactors, and other equipment, as well as blueprints of the plants. Details of the scientists involved, including their passports, were also obtained. Most alarmingly, Iranian spies managed to record footage of the inside of the facilities, including the Dimona Nuclear Power Plant.

What exactly is so earth shattering and damaging here? Which part? Photos of Grossi eating a cake? Or pictures of the Mossad boss getting a dental procedure?


What value does this have? What value is there in having the addresses of Israeli scientists and then doing jackshit about it?

What can Iran possibly gain from it in the next war?


This is the problem: these guys are busy claiming victories for purely propaganda purposes while the enemy acts only for results.

 

[ToddE]

What exactly is so earth shattering and damaging here? Which part? Photos of Grossi eating a cake? Or pictures of the Mossad boss getting a dental procedure?


What value does this have? What value is there in having the addresses of Israeli scientists and then doing jackshit about it?

What can Iran possibly gain from it in the next war?


This is the problem: these guys are busy claiming victories for purely propaganda purposes while the enemy acts only for results.

Even if they show "hacked" pictures of Bibi phucking Melania on Trumps bed, what would this change? These people do not understand that public view matters none anymore otherwise Israel would not be successfully ethnic cleansing Gaza for years now despite being the most hated nation on earth. Most of these IRI officials are illiterate, they do not speak english, I am now beginning to believe they do not even use internet to see how narratives are built (Failure to counter Israeli propoganda during war) they do not have understanding of how much liberalised world has become while they were busy hanging Iranian teenagers for hejab protests. They think they just "exposed" a stupid pawn like Grossi by showing his pics and local Iranians will rally behind a failure admin.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Repeat with me so you get this settled in your brain. Throughout this Palestinian genocide by Israel:

- Not a single Muslim Arab country shut down its ties with Israel. Not one. Embassies, consulates, diplomatic channels all open for business as usual. Nobody even pretended to care except for Lip Service here and a "protest" there.
- Turkey kept sending 6 Billion USD worth of raw materials annually to Israel like clockwork while "Sunni" Palestinians were being shredded by IDF, Turkey didn’t stop for even a second. Erdogan barks alot for local consumption but like a loyal pet, he proved it to Jews that as long as he is sitting there, Israel has nothing to worry about North and West.
- Azerbaijan kept oil flowing to Israel, Business as usual.
- Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Central Asian and North African muslim countries did not fire a single bullet in the direction of Israel, directly or indirectly. Lip services only.

Meanwhile Iran from its own soil fired 1000+ Ballistic missiles on Israel, losing thousands of soldiers, scientists, Generals, civilians in the return. IRI wasted 500+ Billion USD of Iranian nation on raising Arab armies against Israel. Our country is under crippling sanctions for 25 years because of Ayatollah's war on Israel. Even right now Khat addicted Yemeni Houthis are firing Iranian built/supplied/funded drones and missiles at Israel. Why should Iran suffer this ? And for what? So everyone else can keep doing trade with Israel and then clap politely when Iranian nation suffers? Half of the "Islamic world" is buried under WB/IMF debts borrowing money from the same Anglo-Jewish financial institutions they pretend to oppose. Half of GDP of Turkey is built upon foreign debt, they wont do shit against Israel on ground but you expect Iran to sacrifice itself in Palestinian cause?

IRI runs at 1/10th of its real projected GDP because it can’t sell oil freely thanks to sanctions in name of "Palestine". If it could, its economy would rival France based upon second largest Hydrocarbon reserves in the world. Instead, thousands of Iranians have died because of unnecessary wars with Israel/US while everyone else from Islamic world looks the other way. We’re not even Arabs. This IRI government keeps sacrificing our people, our wealth, our society for a cause nobody else in the Islamic world truly cares about. No free oil exports, no nuclear program, no conventional military strength, no economy, educated STEM grad youth leaving in droves all in the name of Palestine while every other Islamic country is too busy sucking Jew balls for more debts and trade deals. So please explain why Iran should keep suffering alone while the rest of the Islamic world is just not bothered.

Listen I could care less if you bring shah or for that matter orange clown own son and install him as your leader... surrender or bend the knee.
For those who seek your mere presence as an entity WILL make a meal out of you... now you may aim to be an easy meal... the only problem with ones you're dealing with... doesn't align with their moons. Your feeble cowering ramshackled military defeated squarely in a battlefield does!

Now if a mullah sits their and call it Velâyat-e Faqih... perhaps suits them more in a diabolical sort of way... and I can share a good chuckle... it kinda matches the olden kings of yore... the bearded Persian ones or a clean shaven baby king. You'd want the later... they get more mileage out of former.

Now find a reason how you could have sold way more oil than you did... and sleep over it...

 

[ToddE]

Listen I could care less if you bring shah or for that matter orange clown own son and install him as your leader... surrender or bend the knee.
For those who seek your mere presence as an entity WILL make a meal out of you... now you may aim to be an easy meal... the only problem with ones you're dealing with... doesn't align with their moons. Your feeble cowering ramshackled military defeated squarely in a battlefield does!

Now if a mullah sits their and call it Velâyat-e Faqih... perhaps suits them more in a diabolical sort of way... and I can share a good chuckle... it kinda matches the olden kings of yore... the bearded Persian ones or a clean shaven baby king. You'd want the later... they get more mileage out of former.

Now find a reason how you could have sold way more oil than you did... and sleep over it...

ROFL copter, suddenly your focus shifted from Iran having to sacrifice itself against Israel as soon as I brought the fact that entire Islamic world (except Iran) are Jew controlled cucks run on Jew provided debts that would not do shit against Israel except for lip service while Israel turns "Sunni Arab" babies into meat shreds for fun. No more how bad Jews are? how much Iran has to do more to prove itself to you after sacrificing itself in process? lol and btw Surrender to what? Iran was the biggest Ally of US, Israel, EU. It was projected to be one of the rising great powers of the world with 12th Largest GDP backed by 2nd largest GC reserves, and 4-5th largest military on planet. Even today we produce worlds 4-5th largest STEM workforce. If sanctions and unnecessary conflict with Israel and US is removed today, Iran will return to its actual position on globe. IRI gave nothing to us, Islamism or Islamic Statehood gave nothing to Iran.

Here is a fact sheet, repeated for future reference:

Actions of Islamic Countries during Israeli holocaust over Palestinians Arab Muslims.

- Not a single Muslim Arab country shut down its ties with Israel. Not one. Embassies, consulates, diplomatic channels all open for business as usual. Nobody even pretended to care except for Lip Service here and a "protest" there.
- Turkey kept sending 6 Billion USD worth of raw materials annually to Israel like clockwork while "Sunni" Palestinians were being shredded by IDF, Turkey didn’t stop for even a second. Erdogan barks alot for local consumption but like a loyal pet, he proved it to Jews that as long as he is sitting there, Israel has nothing to worry about North and West.
- Azerbaijan kept oil flowing to Israel, Business as usual.
- Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Central Asian and North African muslim countries did not fire a single bullet in the direction of Israel, directly or indirectly. Lip services only.
- Iran from its own soil fired 1000+ Ballistic missiles on Israeli Land, losing thousands of soldiers, scientists, Generals, civilians in the return. IRI wasted 500+ Billion USD of Iranian nation on raising Arab armies against Israel. Iran faced crippling sanctions for 25 years because of Ayatollah's war on Israel. Why should Iran suffer this?

 

[Shafagh]

I think we have a government with bipolar disorder. Here is the president clearly having Difficulty concentrating or making decisions.
"Iran’s president vows never to build a nuclear bomb in his UNGA speech"
What is the purpose of acting in an Impulsive/risky behavior at the Vampire's Ball?
On one hand, Iran builds everything that an active nuclear-armed state possesses.
Then we have MPs voicing their desire to build the bomb. Finally, we have the clown president saying we will not and continues to beg for useless negotiations.

Iran’s president vows to never build a nuclear bomb in his UNGA speech

Masoud Pezeshkian accused the UK, France and Germany of acting ‘at the behest of the United States of America’.

www.aljazeera.com

That's democracy for you. Two groups going back and forth leading to no coherence.

Same as America with Obama trying to reach detente with Iran, and then in a few years, complete 180 with Trump, and then influence of deep state/outside actors.

Only thing with Iran; instead of Jewish influence, it is religious fanatic influence.

 

[Shafagh]

Please explain why you think this is major. Most likely the documents they ''captured'' are just declassified or public information. This isnt the first time VEVAK has made these claims. They pull these stunts every now and then to deflect from the real situation....a total intelligence failure by these incompetent fools.

Until now there has been no independent parliamentary inquiry into the intelligence collapse… no classified hearings, no arrests, nothing.

These announcements are purely for domestic consumption. They have zero effect on the ground.

They are literally inside Dimona and have shots from the outside filming key parts of the facility.

How is that not useful intelligence?

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

ROFL copter, suddenly your focus shifted from Iran having to sacrifice itself against Israel as soon as I brought the fact that entire Islamic world (except Iran) are Jew controlled cucks run on Jew provided debts that would not do shit against Israel except for lip service while Israel turns "Sunni Arab" babies into meat shreds for fun. No more how bad Jews are? how much Iran has to do more to prove itself to you after sacrificing itself in process? lol and btw Surrender to what? Iran was the biggest Ally of US, Israel, EU. It was projected to be one of the rising great powers of the world with 12th Largest GDP backed by 2nd largest GC reserves, and 4-5th largest military on planet. Even today we produce worlds 4-5th largest STEM workforce. If sanctions and unnecessary conflict with Israel and US is removed today, Iran will return to its actual position on globe. IRI gave nothing to us, Islamism or Islamic Statehood gave nothing to Iran.

Here is a fact sheet, repeated for future reference:

Actions of Islamic Countries during Israeli holocaust over Palestinians Arab Muslims.

- Not a single Muslim Arab country shut down its ties with Israel. Not one. Embassies, consulates, diplomatic channels all open for business as usual. Nobody even pretended to care except for Lip Service here and a "protest" there.
- Turkey kept sending 6 Billion USD worth of raw materials annually to Israel like clockwork while "Sunni" Palestinians were being shredded by IDF, Turkey didn’t stop for even a second. Erdogan barks alot for local consumption but like a loyal pet, he proved it to Jews that as long as he is sitting there, Israel has nothing to worry about North and West.
- Azerbaijan kept oil flowing to Israel, Business as usual.
- Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Central Asian and North African muslim countries did not fire a single bullet in the direction of Israel, directly or indirectly. Lip services only.
- Iran from its own soil fired 1000+ Ballistic missiles on Israeli Land, losing thousands of soldiers, scientists, Generals, civilians in the return. IRI wasted 500+ Billion USD of Iranian nation on raising Arab armies against Israel. Iran faced crippling sanctions for 25 years because of Ayatollah's war on Israel. Why should Iran suffer this?

My first reply to you where we all shared a chuckle said it all... if it didn't connect with your preconceptions doesn't affect me one bit. I never disagreed that the Arabs and or Turks were in fact supporting zion... they still are...
But where you miss the boat is the fact that Iran is (also) a cultivated enemy of zion.

The beauty of the forum is that we can come back perhaps and either laugh or moan our future selves for what could have been... without any real ability to change course.

 

[FUB]

While the Zariff clan are a on begging tour at the UN.

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[ShapurII]

My first reply to you where we all shared a chuckle said it all... if it didn't connect with your preconceptions doesn't affect me one bit. I never disagreed that the Arabs and or Turks were in fact supporting zion... they still are...
But where you miss the boat is the fact that Iran is (also) a cultivated enemy of zion.

The beauty of the forum is that we can come back perhaps and either laugh or moan our future selves for what could have been... without any real ability to change course.

Let me make it easier for you to understand our sentiments.
We're simply tired of sacrificing our own national interests for a lost cause.

I disagree that Israel is an imminent threat to us. It is a regional threat, but not an imminent threat to Iran.
First, they will have to take care of the nearby Arabs and Turkey. If it weren't for the 1979 revolution, we wouldn't have appeared on their radar anytime soon. Eventually, yes. But not before Arabs or Turks.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Let me make it easier for you to understand our sentiments.
We're simply tired of sacrificing our own national interests for a lost cause.

I disagree that Israel is an imminent threat to us. It is a regional threat, but not an imminent threat to Iran.
First, they will have to take care of the nearby Arabs and Turkey. If it weren't for the 1979 revolution, we wouldn't have appeared on their radar anytime soon. Eventually, yes. But not before Arabs or Turks.

I know... which is why I wrote what I did... know your enemy and where it takes it's impetus. Cultist colonizers are driven by an end goal. That allows you to understand their motivations... that however is just an understanding... the change needs mobilization and/or money... either or both. Which is why it has been so easy to manipulate and install regime... do regime changes or collapse states or state infrastructure.

 

[FUB]

Where are the Israel is great fan toys?
I’m sure they intercepted 90% of the incoming missiles and drones.

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[kastor ville]

.Israel is several leagues ahead of Iran in terms of intelligence capabilities (and yes, in other aspects too let's be frank).

As such, i wouldn't be surprised if they allowed Iran access to false information to begin with In order to lead them astray....let's give credit where credit is due.

You're right....when they plan something, they execute it well.....but, they're as sloppy as us, in a lot of ways. Look at the 12 day war....if they we're so smart how come they ran out of missile defense? They failed in Qatar as well. They failed on Oct 7th, they killed more of their citizens on Oct 7 than Hamas did......this shows you they're far from perfect. We give these hooligans too much credit sometimes, and we forget they have the entire CIA and even MI6 behind them giving support.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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