Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Repeat with me so you get this settled in your brain. Throughout this Palestinian genocide by Israel:

- Not a single Muslim Arab country shut down its ties with Israel. Not one. Embassies, consulates, diplomatic channels all open for business as usual. Nobody even pretended to care except for Lip Service here and a "protest" there.
- Turkey kept sending 6 Billion USD worth of raw materials annually to Israel like clockwork while "Sunni" Palestinians were being shredded by IDF, Turkey didn’t stop for even a second. Erdogan barks alot for local consumption but like a loyal pet, he proved it to Jews that as long as he is sitting there, Israel has nothing to worry about North and West.
- Azerbaijan kept oil flowing to Israel, Business as usual.
- Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Central Asian and North African muslim countries did not fire a single bullet in the direction of Israel, directly or indirectly. Lip services only.

Meanwhile Iran from its own soil fired 1000+ Ballistic missiles on Israel, losing thousands of soldiers, scientists, Generals, civilians in the return. IRI wasted 500+ Billion USD of Iranian nation on raising Arab armies against Israel. Our country is under crippling sanctions for 25 years because of Ayatollah's war on Israel. Even right now Khat addicted Yemeni Houthis are firing Iranian built/supplied/funded drones and missiles at Israel. Why should Iran suffer this ? And for what? So everyone else can keep doing trade with Israel and then clap politely when Iranian nation suffers? Half of the "Islamic world" is buried under WB/IMF debts borrowing money from the same Anglo-Jewish financial institutions they pretend to oppose. Half of GDP of Turkey is built upon foreign debt, they wont do shit against Israel on ground but you expect Iran to sacrifice itself in Palestinian cause?

IRI runs at 1/10th of its real projected GDP because it can’t sell oil freely thanks to sanctions in name of "Palestine". If it could, its economy would rival France based upon second largest Hydrocarbon reserves in the world. Instead, thousands of Iranians have died because of unnecessary wars with Israel/US while everyone else from Islamic world looks the other way. We’re not even Arabs. This IRI government keeps sacrificing our people, our wealth, our society for a cause nobody else in the Islamic world truly cares about. No free oil exports, no nuclear program, no conventional military strength, no economy, educated STEM grad youth leaving in droves all in the name of Palestine while every other Islamic country is too busy sucking Jew balls for more debts and trade deals. So please explain why Iran should keep suffering alone while the rest of the Islamic world is just not bothered.

Listen I could care less if you bring shah or for that matter orange clown own son and install him as your leader... surrender or bend the knee.
For those who seek your mere presence as an entity WILL make a meal out of you... now you may aim to be an easy meal... the only problem with ones you're dealing with... doesn't align with their moons. Your feeble cowering ramshackled military defeated squarely in a battlefield does!

Now if a mullah sits their and call it Velâyat-e Faqih... perhaps suits them more in a diabolical sort of way... and I can share a good chuckle... it kinda matches the olden kings of yore... the bearded Persian ones or a clean shaven baby king. You'd want the later... they get more mileage out of former.

Now find a reason how you could have sold way more oil than you did... and sleep over it...

 

[ToddE]

Listen I could care less if you bring shah or for that matter orange clown own son and install him as your leader... surrender or bend the knee.
For those who seek your mere presence as an entity WILL make a meal out of you... now you may aim to be an easy meal... the only problem with ones you're dealing with... doesn't align with their moons. Your feeble cowering ramshackled military defeated squarely in a battlefield does!

Now if a mullah sits their and call it Velâyat-e Faqih... perhaps suits them more in a diabolical sort of way... and I can share a good chuckle... it kinda matches the olden kings of yore... the bearded Persian ones or a clean shaven baby king. You'd want the later... they get more mileage out of former.

Now find a reason how you could have sold way more oil than you did... and sleep over it...

ROFL copter, suddenly your focus shifted from Iran having to sacrifice itself against Israel as soon as I brought the fact that entire Islamic world (except Iran) are Jew controlled cucks run on Jew provided debts that would not do shit against Israel except for lip service while Israel turns "Sunni Arab" babies into meat shreds for fun. No more how bad Jews are? how much Iran has to do more to prove itself to you after sacrificing itself in process? lol and btw Surrender to what? Iran was the biggest Ally of US, Israel, EU. It was projected to be one of the rising great powers of the world with 12th Largest GDP backed by 2nd largest GC reserves, and 4-5th largest military on planet. Even today we produce worlds 4-5th largest STEM workforce. If sanctions and unnecessary conflict with Israel and US is removed today, Iran will return to its actual position on globe. IRI gave nothing to us, Islamism or Islamic Statehood gave nothing to Iran.

Here is a fact sheet, repeated for future reference:

Actions of Islamic Countries during Israeli holocaust over Palestinians Arab Muslims.

- Not a single Muslim Arab country shut down its ties with Israel. Not one. Embassies, consulates, diplomatic channels all open for business as usual. Nobody even pretended to care except for Lip Service here and a "protest" there.
- Turkey kept sending 6 Billion USD worth of raw materials annually to Israel like clockwork while "Sunni" Palestinians were being shredded by IDF, Turkey didn’t stop for even a second. Erdogan barks alot for local consumption but like a loyal pet, he proved it to Jews that as long as he is sitting there, Israel has nothing to worry about North and West.
- Azerbaijan kept oil flowing to Israel, Business as usual.
- Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Central Asian and North African muslim countries did not fire a single bullet in the direction of Israel, directly or indirectly. Lip services only.
- Iran from its own soil fired 1000+ Ballistic missiles on Israeli Land, losing thousands of soldiers, scientists, Generals, civilians in the return. IRI wasted 500+ Billion USD of Iranian nation on raising Arab armies against Israel. Iran faced crippling sanctions for 25 years because of Ayatollah's war on Israel. Why should Iran suffer this?

 

[Shafagh]

I think we have a government with bipolar disorder. Here is the president clearly having Difficulty concentrating or making decisions.
"Iran’s president vows never to build a nuclear bomb in his UNGA speech"
What is the purpose of acting in an Impulsive/risky behavior at the Vampire's Ball?
On one hand, Iran builds everything that an active nuclear-armed state possesses.
Then we have MPs voicing their desire to build the bomb. Finally, we have the clown president saying we will not and continues to beg for useless negotiations.

Iran’s president vows to never build a nuclear bomb in his UNGA speech

Masoud Pezeshkian accused the UK, France and Germany of acting ‘at the behest of the United States of America’.

www.aljazeera.com

That's democracy for you. Two groups going back and forth leading to no coherence.

Same as America with Obama trying to reach detente with Iran, and then in a few years, complete 180 with Trump, and then influence of deep state/outside actors.

Only thing with Iran; instead of Jewish influence, it is religious fanatic influence.

 

[Shafagh]

Please explain why you think this is major. Most likely the documents they ''captured'' are just declassified or public information. This isnt the first time VEVAK has made these claims. They pull these stunts every now and then to deflect from the real situation....a total intelligence failure by these incompetent fools.

Until now there has been no independent parliamentary inquiry into the intelligence collapse… no classified hearings, no arrests, nothing.

These announcements are purely for domestic consumption. They have zero effect on the ground.

They are literally inside Dimona and have shots from the outside filming key parts of the facility.

How is that not useful intelligence?

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

ROFL copter, suddenly your focus shifted from Iran having to sacrifice itself against Israel as soon as I brought the fact that entire Islamic world (except Iran) are Jew controlled cucks run on Jew provided debts that would not do shit against Israel except for lip service while Israel turns "Sunni Arab" babies into meat shreds for fun. No more how bad Jews are? how much Iran has to do more to prove itself to you after sacrificing itself in process? lol and btw Surrender to what? Iran was the biggest Ally of US, Israel, EU. It was projected to be one of the rising great powers of the world with 12th Largest GDP backed by 2nd largest GC reserves, and 4-5th largest military on planet. Even today we produce worlds 4-5th largest STEM workforce. If sanctions and unnecessary conflict with Israel and US is removed today, Iran will return to its actual position on globe. IRI gave nothing to us, Islamism or Islamic Statehood gave nothing to Iran.

Here is a fact sheet, repeated for future reference:

Actions of Islamic Countries during Israeli holocaust over Palestinians Arab Muslims.

- Not a single Muslim Arab country shut down its ties with Israel. Not one. Embassies, consulates, diplomatic channels all open for business as usual. Nobody even pretended to care except for Lip Service here and a "protest" there.
- Turkey kept sending 6 Billion USD worth of raw materials annually to Israel like clockwork while "Sunni" Palestinians were being shredded by IDF, Turkey didn’t stop for even a second. Erdogan barks alot for local consumption but like a loyal pet, he proved it to Jews that as long as he is sitting there, Israel has nothing to worry about North and West.
- Azerbaijan kept oil flowing to Israel, Business as usual.
- Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Central Asian and North African muslim countries did not fire a single bullet in the direction of Israel, directly or indirectly. Lip services only.
- Iran from its own soil fired 1000+ Ballistic missiles on Israeli Land, losing thousands of soldiers, scientists, Generals, civilians in the return. IRI wasted 500+ Billion USD of Iranian nation on raising Arab armies against Israel. Iran faced crippling sanctions for 25 years because of Ayatollah's war on Israel. Why should Iran suffer this?

My first reply to you where we all shared a chuckle said it all... if it didn't connect with your preconceptions doesn't affect me one bit. I never disagreed that the Arabs and or Turks were in fact supporting zion... they still are...
But where you miss the boat is the fact that Iran is (also) a cultivated enemy of zion.

The beauty of the forum is that we can come back perhaps and either laugh or moan our future selves for what could have been... without any real ability to change course.

 

[FUB]

While the Zariff clan are a on begging tour at the UN.

 

[ShapurII]

My first reply to you where we all shared a chuckle said it all... if it didn't connect with your preconceptions doesn't affect me one bit. I never disagreed that the Arabs and or Turks were in fact supporting zion... they still are...
But where you miss the boat is the fact that Iran is (also) a cultivated enemy of zion.

The beauty of the forum is that we can come back perhaps and either laugh or moan our future selves for what could have been... without any real ability to change course.

Let me make it easier for you to understand our sentiments.
We're simply tired of sacrificing our own national interests for a lost cause.

I disagree that Israel is an imminent threat to us. It is a regional threat, but not an imminent threat to Iran.
First, they will have to take care of the nearby Arabs and Turkey. If it weren't for the 1979 revolution, we wouldn't have appeared on their radar anytime soon. Eventually, yes. But not before Arabs or Turks.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Let me make it easier for you to understand our sentiments.
We're simply tired of sacrificing our own national interests for a lost cause.

I disagree that Israel is an imminent threat to us. It is a regional threat, but not an imminent threat to Iran.
First, they will have to take care of the nearby Arabs and Turkey. If it weren't for the 1979 revolution, we wouldn't have appeared on their radar anytime soon. Eventually, yes. But not before Arabs or Turks.

I know... which is why I wrote what I did... know your enemy and where it takes it's impetus. Cultist colonizers are driven by an end goal. That allows you to understand their motivations... that however is just an understanding... the change needs mobilization and/or money... either or both. Which is why it has been so easy to manipulate and install regime... do regime changes or collapse states or state infrastructure.

 

[FUB]

Where are the Israel is great fan toys?
I’m sure they intercepted 90% of the incoming missiles and drones.

 

[kastor ville]

.Israel is several leagues ahead of Iran in terms of intelligence capabilities (and yes, in other aspects too let's be frank).

As such, i wouldn't be surprised if they allowed Iran access to false information to begin with In order to lead them astray....let's give credit where credit is due.

You're right....when they plan something, they execute it well.....but, they're as sloppy as us, in a lot of ways. Look at the 12 day war....if they we're so smart how come they ran out of missile defense? They failed in Qatar as well. They failed on Oct 7th, they killed more of their citizens on Oct 7 than Hamas did......this shows you they're far from perfect. We give these hooligans too much credit sometimes, and we forget they have the entire CIA and even MI6 behind them giving support.

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Persian Gulf]

Ghalibaf says Iran is capable of producing advanced air defences but struggles to produce enough of them considering the size of Iran

 

[Persian Gulf]

I know a lot of people don't like him because he's corrupt, but he's one of the only Iranian officials who doesn't embarrass himself and Iran whenever he speaks. he actually knows what he is talking about.

he doesn't make up stories like Russia gave Israel all our air defence data, Russia sent us su-35s already, we just tested an ICBM, etc.

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[ShapurII]

I know a lot of people don't like him because he's corrupt, but he's one of the only Iranian officials who doesn't embarrass himself and Iran whenever he speaks. he actually knows what he is talking about.

he doesn't make up stories like Russia gave Israel all our air defence data, Russia sent us su-35s already, we just tested an ICBM, etc.

He actually was a great mayor for Tehran.
He's a realist and pragmatist figure in the Islamic Republic.
We don't have many such people in the system.