India Foreign Policy Thread

[Master Chief]

TBH establishment was in need of money for the rocket force they needed someone to invest in manufacturing of these missiles, like Babur and conventional versions of Shaheen series, I think that's why they did this. But there were other ways of getting them to invest we could have shared TOT, trained their air force instead we have dragged them with us in conflict with India and I can tell you with 100% certainty they will never attack India for us they will do the exact opposite, they will try to rein us in and I fear we might just give in.
This was a bad bet all along, Israel will now be more involved with indians more than ever, we could partnered with turkey, east Asian states and with gulf for production and development of lon range missiles, this entire pact would give us nothing but some toys that will never be used.

We don't actually need Saudi military support against Hindustan.

There was enough on display this summer to tell me that Pakistan only really needs Pakistanis to stand up and be counted (as long as we have the right kit and the right mastery of that kit) when the hour comes. Indeed, it has always been this way.

That said, the Saudis can certainly pull all sorts of economic levers to put Hindustan in a quandary. And we already know the baniya qom has a penchant for such matters.

Those masters of civilisational transcendence to our east are in a real fix. There is no doubting this fact. The evidence is in front of you. Every 5 minutes they are still barking about "sindoor", while we drew a comprehensive line under that a long time back.

 

[harpy1]

The only thing useful that Pakistan can possibly give Saudi is internal security man power to deal with internal threats

External threats Saudi is decades ahead in equipment and has USA military umbrella including USA personal real time Intel logistics and leaders to help and guide

Saudi is western equipped doctrine military
Not Chinese

For Pakistan it's bigger diplomtic role voice in region and potential funds financial but this the have always given you from years so nothing new

India will almost certainly be telling them buddy Saudi and India trade is 45 billion a year and will double in next five years

For a country to the massive Indian market it's good thing ...The saudis will act as a good mediator in long term and actually prevent sindoor two imo

Imo Pakistanis and Indians are too hot headed will need calm minds in future
Asim munir v modi is volcano guys and certain nuclear

 

[fitpOsitive]

I have feeling these Saudis will hinder our retaliatory response to India in future conflicts. Anything we do now have to be delegated with the fluffing Saudis, what if they are not on board, we threw ourselves in the crossfire's for no reason at all. Should have made a pact with china instead.

Not like that.
Our war with India will be Pakistan-india war only.
Saudias war with Israel will be Pakistan-Saudia-Israel war.
What Pakistan will get then?
Dollars. That's it.

 

[Broghil]

Many people here doesn't seem to understand that this Saudi Pak deal is a deal made out of necessity for both countries. If Saudia wants one thing it will have to give something worthwhile in return. Otherwise how long this one way traffic can last?

Plz consider that there was an opening for a regionally strong military to provide some security assurances. If not by Pakistan than someone else would have filled this void. And that would have been very very bad for Pakistan.

Doing nothing and letting someone else in would have been very detrimental for our standing in my humble opinion.

 

[Watandar]

Not like that.
Our war with India will be Pakistan-india war only.
Saudias war with Israel will be Pakistan-Saudia-Israel war.
What Pakistan will get then?
Dollars. That's it.

Oh yaar when will you realize GCC are collaborators with Israel. The only difference is who is open about it like UAE or Bahrain and who is still hiding in shadows like Oman or Saudi. There is no Saudi Israel war or conflict on the horizon just some bukake theater.

 

[r3alist]

India will almost certainly be telling them buddy Saudi and India trade is 45 billion a year and will double in next five years

Will laser eyes go over the spreadsheet himself with mbs?

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@hydrabadi_arab

Hydra bro,

Without USA India GDP would be half of what is now and on IMF program.

You could have stayed allied to US and your GDP today would have been double of what it is today. Maybe you could still course correct?

Regards

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

@hydrabadi_arab

Hydra bro,

Without USA India GDP would be half of what is now and on IMF program.

You could have stayed allied to US and your GDP today would have been double of what it is today. Maybe you could still course correct?

Regards

But Pakistan couldn't compromise on nukes, Afghanistan, India hegemony etc Now its time to get back to business with USA now that they have accepted Pakistan as regional power and net security provider in west asia.

 

[MS Sandhu]

emotional damage seems irreparable!

I'm afraid the emotional damage will be irreparable for Pakistanis who are over hyping this Pak Saudi deal once Saudis award some shit to modi chai wala.

 

[MS Sandhu]

Once KSA starts giving money, it is unlikely to come at no other cost. Strings could be attached and that too strong ones.
Considering the state of the Pak economy, KSA may be a little more demanding than otherwise.
Many people are celebrating as if KSA will give billions without asking any questions and fill Pak coffers.

KSA has shown in the past that they can tighten the leash if they feel that Pakistan is doing anything that is against KSA’s interests. Last time they had demanded return of a loan and refused to grant an extension and also withdrawn their aircraft that had flown IK to US. Reason- Pakistan was trying to drum up a coalition with Malaysia that KSA didn’t like.

Geopolitics has strange ways of playing out. A little caution may be advisable before bursting all the crackers in celebrating too early.

There is nothing significant in that deal to celebrate.
Just a formal paper work with some mirch masala.
Nothing serious

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

no Saudi Israel war

That may be true... but no regional power in Mideast all on its own can ensure stability. For a while Arabs had Iraq as the strongest Arab military but no one wanted or supported him in becoming the king of the region... based on Arab nationalism it had not one but two enemies zionists and Iranians. Second, it was secular and it didn't settle with the peninsular Arabs. The rest are just ragtag remnants of an empire whose region has still to recover from the power vacuum left by its parting. The colonizers did the dutiful and partitioned the region that no sole leader could emerge and zion could rule the ashes.

Pakistan provides some of that impetus to the Saudi sails. However falling short of true security provider/stabilizer for the region... for that it would have to ensure bilaterally to each on its periphery the terms of deal or read the riot act. However, as long as US is there it will ensure that the rabid dog is the top dog to the detriment of the people in the region and their own eventual reconciliation.

Indians in this have way too much on the line... their economic future... possibility of facing off potential Saudis in a battlefield, Pakistani use of Saudi equipment... which, in the case of the US they'd been previously been able to raise ruckus on Pakistani purchases and terms of use of equipment. The future of IMEC and zionist umbilical connection with India... etc

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

I'm afraid the emotional damage will be irreparable for Pakistanis who are over hyping this Pak Saudi deal once Saudis award some shit to modi chai wala.

You dont need to tag or quote me.

this is a defense deal.

meant to be secretive.

 

[r3alist]

I'm afraid the emotional damage will be irreparable for Pakistanis who are over hyping this Pak Saudi deal once Saudis award some shit to modi chai wala.

There is nothing significant in that deal to celebrate.
Just a formal paper work with some mirch masala.
Nothing serious

You're talking as if India flaunting it's civilizational weakness and insecurity is nothing.

Land of Bharat

 

[Dalit]

Why do Indians always use Anglo-Saxon names on PDF?

I have another example.

Which part of this terrorist looks like Lawrence to you guys?

 

[Dalit]

More than Muslim lives in Pakistan, actually lives in India, so I don't think we need approval from anyone else.

The world knows how those Indian Muslims are treated. You love them very much.