Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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I tend to think Israel was almost brought to its knees by late 2024 but then the northern fronts folded and Trump was elected. And grudgingly: Kudos to Netanyahu for resisting many top Israeli politicians for not stopping the war on Gaza and for working to elect Trump--Netanyahu maybe a Devil but also a Visionary.
No, my friend: all of this is pre-planned. The Biden administration gave the most money and weapons to Israel in history, Trump is only an other puppet. The Zionist Jew controls the US and the West.
 
If Hamas accepts, it's because it was all set up. Hamas was created by Israel in 1988 to provide a new pretext for the Palestinian Holocaust, which began with the Nakba in 1948. If Hamas accepts, it proves that everything was planned to exterminate the Palestinian cause and try to drag the ayatollahs along with it.
 
No, my friend: all of this is pre-planned. The Biden administration gave the most money and weapons to Israel in history, Trump is only an other puppet. The Zionist Jew controls the US and the West.

A lesson in politics--and for the 100th time here: A President's personality plays a huge role in US foreign policy! Biden was personally a Zionist and supported Israel more than any other POTUS in American history before him. Trump, Zionist or not, is even worse, if that possible: He simply doesn't care how much Netanyahu inflicts pain on the Palestinians. But the main difference is: The Democratic Party has enough people who want a more 'balanced' approach while the Republican Party has far fewer. The NY Times in just last couple of days ran an article saying that for the very first time in history, there is more support for Palestinians in the Democratic vote bank then for Israel. So who would a President Harris listen to vs who would a President Trump listen to??!! And yet there were the stupid Muslim Imams taking the selfies with the Candidate Trump because he said a year ago he was going to 'stop' the war in Gaza.
The simplistic approaches the Muslims electorates do is the very reason the Muslims countries are a mess: Lack of objectivity and critical thinking!
 
I’ve read it.

Whether October 7 happened or not still does not excuse it. Israel is committing genocide not because of October 7, it is committing genocide because it is in their expansionist agenda.

If Hamas did not exist today, it will always find a boogeyman to commit its atrocities. While maybe not on this massive scale, it is still killing with impunity in West Bank, building illegally settlements, and strangling them to force them to leave. THIS WILL ALWAYS LEAD TO RESISTANCE.

When people in West Bank have had enough and see the hopelessness of their situation and resist, would you say if they had shut their mouth then maybe more won’t die?

It’s either be killed slowly or die resisting for your freedom. That’s the only cards they have.

It’s easy for you to sit there and judge but you are NOT living their situation. Those that resisted are the sons of refugees in their own homeland who have been expelled, killed, or both.
Moreover. In West Bank no Hamás, "no mama, no papa no whiskey soda..." and 1000 casualties from 7O. So what the hell with Hamás??? It is because they're Palestinians!!!!.
 
I tend to think Israel was almost brought to its knees by late 2024 but then the northern fronts folded and Trump was elected. And grudgingly: Kudos to Netanyahu for resisting many top Israeli politicians for not stopping the war on Gaza and for working to elect Trump--Netanyahu maybe a Devil but also a Visionary.

I never once thought Israel was brought to its knees; it was as if they anticipated actions on the northern front and had contingencies in place. Once the pagers went off in Lebanon and decapitated many fighters before a frontal assault, I said, the victory is sealed. Hezbollah wasn't able to recover from that.

What surprised me was their reach into Iran, but this is particularly Iran's fault for being infiltrated to the extent they were. Thus, for me, their striking Qatar was a normal act, and acceptable, as Israel set the new rules of engagement in the region.

At this point, the rest of the GCC and Pakistan knew they had nothing to counter Israel, and it was best to sit down and come to an acceptable solution, though it was not favorable.
 
I never once thought Israel was brought to its knees; it was as if they anticipated actions on the northern front and had contingencies in place. Once the pagers went off in Lebanon and decapitated many fighters before a frontal assault, I said, the victory is sealed. Hezbollah wasn't able to recover from that.

By the Fall of 2024, Israeli press of full of prominent people asking to stop the conflict in Gaza, the press was full of dire economic conditions, of businesses shut down, of no tourism, of airlines cancelling flights, full of the civil unrests, the flight of people and Capital from Israel, full of daily deaths of the Israeli soldiers. The biggest weakness of Israel/is flight of people and this thread as well as the Israeli press was full of such stories. IMO, if Hezbollah had persisted, the Assad regime was still in place, then those two factors would have been enough to keep giving the Israelis nightmares and perhaps even make Israel come to a real, just compromise. But then... Israel had a Superpower and its allies behind it so...

But, yes, the Pagers' attack, the decapitation of Hezbollah leadership, the toppling of Assad, and the retrenchment of Iran, along with the election of Trump, which the Israelis and the Jewish Americans worked hard for, ensured that by early 2025 the Gaza conflict was effectively over.
 
I’ve read it.

Whether October 7 happened or not still does not excuse it. Israel is committing genocide not because of October 7, it is committing genocide because it is in their expansionist agenda.

It does not matter what moral principles the world claims to hold. It is run on the interests of bastards who have the power to run it. Morality has nothing to do with the excuse Israel was given by Hamas. The hyaena will always see you as food, letting it loose inside your home is not wise.


If Hamas did not exist today, it will always find a boogeyman to commit its atrocities. While maybe not on this massive scale, it is still killing with impunity in West Bank, building illegally settlements, and strangling them to force them to leave. THIS WILL ALWAYS LEAD TO RESISTANCE.

Not on this massive scale is all I am after. If you see yourself achieving something from resisting then God Speed. I hope to be of some help that day. But if you don't, then please sit down and spare as many kids as possible the unnecessary horrors that they have endured.....until the time that you can achieve something.

When people in West Bank have had enough and see the hopelessness of their situation and resist, would you say if they had shut their mouth then maybe more won’t die?

It’s either be killed slowly or die resisting for your freedom. That’s the only cards they have.

It’s easy for you to sit there and judge but you are NOT living their situation. Those that resisted are the sons of refugees in their own homeland who have been expelled, killed, or both.

You are romanticizing what happened, again. The common people of Ghaza were not a part of Hamas' decision to conduct an operation for the release of its men. We don't see the common Ghazans out resisting. They are busy dying in "safe" camps. This was not righteous resistance...at the very best, it was an idiotic operation at the behest of a self-serving organization that decided to throw their civilians to the wolves for nothing. Ask yourself...what was Hamas aiming to achieve for the people of Ghaza or the resistance on Oct 7? What have the tens of thousands of Ghazan deaths served for the resistance? Was there anyone in the world who did not foresee the Israeli response and the Palestinian helplessness against it?

Again, fighting for the sake of just resisting, which I do not believe was Hamas' aim, while forsaking tens of thousands of your kids to a genocide is selfish and serves nothing. Spare those kids and they might achieve what you cannot.

Moreover. In West Bank no Hamás, "no mama, no papa no whiskey soda..." and 1000 casualties from 7O. So what the hell with Hamás??? It is because they're Palestinians!!!!.

How many in Ghaza?
 
By the Fall of 2024, Israeli press of full of prominent people asking to stop the conflict in Gaza, the press was full of dire economic conditions, of businesses shut down, of no tourism, of airlines cancelling flights, full of the civil unrests, the flight of people and Capital from Israel, full of daily deaths of the Israeli soldiers. The biggest weakness of Israel/is flight of people and this thread as well as the Israeli press was full of such stories. IMO, if Hezbollah had persisted, the Assad regime was still in place, then those two factors would have been enough to keep giving the Israelis nightmares and perhaps even make Israel come to a real, just compromise. But then... Israel had a Superpower and its allies behind it so...

But, yes, the Pagers' attack, the decapitation of Hezbollah leadership, the toppling of Assad, and the retrenchment of Iran, along with the election of Trump, which the Israelis and the Jewish Americans worked hard for, ensured that by early 2025 the Gaza conflict was effectively over.

Indeed. I will also mention a fact of the Hezbollah-Israel II War, many members on this forum were smiling that Israel was being pushed back and not coming in deeply as they did in 2006. However, as is typical of our people, they do not read the maps and topography, nor do they understand how Israel adapts and evolves its strategy after every conflict, unlike us. Israel was aiming to occupy high points and call in air strikes and artillery, which forced Hezbollah back into their holes, and allowed Israel full top view and the elimination of their infrastructure.

The key region was the Beqaa Valley, Lebanon, which was pummeled, eliminating the group's large arms caches. This valley is the central key point of bringing in arms into Lebanon from Syria, and the IAF was picking off supply trucks during the day and at night. Thus, you had Hezbollah, which was effectively an army without arms. This led to them folding as quickly as they did.


@LeGenD @RescueRanger
 
Indeed. I will also mention a fact of the Hezbollah-Israel II War, many members on this forum were smiling that Israel was being pushed back and not coming in deeply as they did in 2006. However, as is typical of our people, they do not read the maps and topography, nor do they understand how Israel adapts and evolves its strategy after every conflict, unlike us. Israel was aiming to occupy high points and call in air strikes and artillery, which forced Hezbollah back into their holes, and allowed Israel full top view and the elimination of their infrastructure.

The key region was the Beqaa Valley, Lebanon, which was pummeled, eliminating the group's large arms caches. This valley is the central key point of bringing in arms into Lebanon from Syria, and the IAF was picking off supply trucks during the day and at night. Thus, you had Hezbollah, which was effectively an army without arms. This led to them folding as quickly as they did.


@LeGenD @RescueRanger

Good post. I remember you posting something like that before about Israel vs Hezbollah in the recent conflict.
 
BOMB! Trump's peace plan, besides destroying the Palestinian people, leaving Israel occupying Gaza together with the USA, Tony blair of dictator... he also says that Netanyahu can no longer be prosecuted for genocide in any international court, and his arrest warrant must be annulled with Palestinians saying that he never commits genocide!
 
It does not matter what moral principles the world claims to hold. It is run on the interests of bastards who have the power to run it. Morality has nothing to do with the excuse Israel was given by Hamas. The hyaena will always see you as food, letting it loose inside your home is not wise.




Not on this massive scale is all I am after. If you see yourself achieving something from resisting then God Speed. I hope to be of some help that day. But if you don't, then please sit down and spare as many kids as possible the unnecessary horrors that they have endured.....until the time that you can achieve something.



You are romanticizing what happened, again. The common people of Ghaza were not a part of Hamas' decision to conduct an operation for the release of its men. We don't see the common Ghazans out resisting. They are busy dying in "safe" camps. This was not righteous resistance...at the very best, it was an idiotic operation at the behest of a self-serving organization that decided to throw their civilians to the wolves for nothing. Ask yourself...what was Hamas aiming to achieve for the people of Ghaza or the resistance on Oct 7? What have the tens of thousands of Ghazan deaths served for the resistance? Was there anyone in the world who did not foresee the Israeli response and the Palestinian helplessness against it?

Again, fighting for the sake of just resisting, which I do not believe was Hamas' aim, while forsaking tens of thousands of your kids to a genocide is selfish and serves nothing. Spare those kids and they might achieve what you cannot.



How many in Ghaza?
If Palestinians do not have a genuine alternative for their freedom, self determination, etc their will always be armed resistance.

Israel creates the conditions that sets up this armed resistance. Before October 7, nothing was achieved nor any Muslim nations put pressure on USA to force Israel to a just solution. Israel also does not want a solution either so this cycle will unfortunately keep happening.
 
Seems like trumpy and yahu may just be fooling everyone into thinking they tried before they carry on with the genocide to annex gaza. Yahu saying today there will be no Palestinian state and israeli terror troops wont be withdrawing. The pair of these guys lie so much I dont know how anyone can believe anything they say.
 
Who could have imagined this sick-minded and arrogant Zionist war criminal Netanyahu, who didn't even blink for or care about his condemnation by the whole the world for Zionist genocide of Palestinians, would be forced to tender his apology for a missile strike on Qatar.

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ATTENTION, BOMB ! As I have said here before, the media is "inverting the information" but maintaining the pro-Zionist agenda while claiming to be against Israel! I said this about the Pakistan-KSA agreement, and here the news is even worse: it was reported in the media that Italian ships went to sea to help and protect the FLOTILLA to reach Gaza and break the embargo, but those inside the FLOTILLA send messages saying something else :

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Flotilla accuses Italian frigate of trying to sabotage mission to Gaza

Organization claims Italian Navy is trying to demobilize volunteers and reaffirms trip to break Israeli blockade of Palestinians


The Global Sumud Flotilla (GSF) accused the Italian Navy on Tuesday (30) of trying to sabotage its humanitarian mission to the Gaza Strip. In a statement released to the press, the organizers stated that an Italian frigate accompanying the ships will issue a radio call offering participants the "opportunity" to abandon the trip before reaching the so-called "critical zone" — an area under threat of an Israeli blockade.

"Let's be absolutely clear: this is not protection. It's sabotage. It's an attempt to demoralize and fragment a peaceful humanitarian mission that governments have refused to undertake," the statement reads.
The coalition states that each participant is aware of the risks and that the decision to proceed is based on humanitarian principles: "It is far more dangerous to remain silent in the face of genocide, famine, and collective punishment than to set sail carrying humanitarian aid."

According to the organization, Italy's stance represents "cowardice disguised as diplomacy," since, instead of guaranteeing safe passage, the government would be "acting as a facilitator for Israel." The flotilla demands that Rome use its naval power to protect volunteers and enforce international law, rather than trying to "return to land" the ships carrying emergency supplies for the population of Gaza.

**International mission under attack**
Established in July 2025, the Global Sumud Flotilla brings together more than 50 vessels and thousands of volunteers from 44 countries, including doctors, lawyers, artists, and activists. The goal is to break the illegal blockade imposed by Israel on the Gaza Strip. Since August, the convoys have departed from ports in Italy, Spain, Greece, and Tunisia and have already suffered multiple drone attacks.

In recent weeks, Italian and Spanish warships have been dispatched to accompany the vessels, officially to provide humanitarian assistance. The mission has received public support from European parliamentarians, the UN Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese, and the President of Colombia, Gustavo Petro. Israel, in turn, has threatened to intercept the boats and arrest volunteers.

Despite the pressure, the Flotilla reaffirms that it "presses on."

"The humanitarian demand to break the blockade cannot be redirected to the port, and our moral responsibility cannot be abandoned at sea. Israel's blockade is illegal. Its siege is criminal. And the world's silence is intolerable," the statement states.
 
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