Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

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The flames of the wreckage definitely are of a bigger plane like an Rafale this ain't some drones or a missile this a proper wreckage on fire @Gregor Clegane shove this up ur arse too

These flames are completely inconclusive unfortunately and count as plain conjecture
 
We simply need to stop providing anything to the indians.

They're free to go to their own indian forums and gloat their "victory" there. They dont need to be entertained here at all.

Just Block these dumb midget fucks. No sympathy for these losers. They can go F themselves.
 
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Some members should watch this video are atleast parts of it especially in light of the recent volatile situation in AJK
 
We simply need to stop providing anything to the indians.

They're free to go to their own indian forums and gloat their "victory" there. They dont need to be entertained here at all.

Just Block these dumb midget fucks. No sympathy for these losers. They can go F themselves.

Their new argument is show us thr satalitte pictures saaar but they have failed to provide any satalitte pictures of destroyed PAF jets.
 
Their new argument is show us thr satalitte pictures saaar but they have failed to provide any satalitte pictures of destroyed PAF jets.

yeah so as far as Pakistan is concerned, they're more than welcome to go look at and smell modi and yogi's asses for such "pictures" and proof.
 
We must take these statements seriously. Indian chest thumping is based on so many facts and assumptions. obviously they are lying about the jets that they have destroyed but NDTV posted few pictures which is a cause of concern. Question is where are the images of our strikes? why all the satellite images showing no damage to sensitive indian military installation? You can feel the silence from pakistani side.

Those 6 or 7 indian jets were targeted on may 7. there is complete silence from our side after these events on may 7. What colonel sofia said is not visible on satellites. I am not buying their theory. may be we have targeted their assets because they placed it away from airbases etc. it's possible. India did manage to intercept some of our missiles and even destroyed many drones. This isn't satisfying for me. It's not satisfying to see their military installations intact.

We have been targeted. Look at bholari and now look at recent image of jacobabad hangar(shared on ndtv). It's showing direct impacts. Our air defense collapsed. it's a cause of concern.

What if we allow india to attack us again? why there is no offensive policy? should we wait for brahmos to create hole in our hangars? Where are the holes in indian hangars?

It clearly means that too much restraint was shown that caused damage to the infrastructure of paf. May be because of trump. Who knows! all this doesn't make any sense. Without damage to indian airbases, we can't win or halt any war against india. Indian air defense systems worked better than Pakistan. All of this is unacceptable.

What if sindoor 2 starts? there are hints. They will again fire rampage, brahmos and scalp. How do we stop them? Our whole airforce is under threat of being bombed. Our lack of ground training and ground attack is visible. All our focus is on bvr engagement. You can do Bvr but you have to land the jet and this is where brahmos will start to rain. These indian missiles are deadly. Some of them were fired from 500 km range and still impacted their targets, means they can fire it again while staying out of our missile range.

Do we believe in preemptive strikes? do we have long range missiles like scalp? What if they intercept raad in next conflict? always think about future and stay ahead. I am not satisfied with our performance in may. i hope PAF will do better next time specially ground attack etc.

Their army chief threatened us and he talked about ground invasion. I hope it open eyes. You know United states might dictate you terms and conditions but at the end of the day, it's your country and you have to defend the crucial infrastructure. Don't listen to United States again. Do what is best for the country. United States may not be able to stop india pak next time. Our real friend is China so we should be making trips to china rather than United States. Our policy doesn't make any sense.
 
We must take these statements seriously. Indian chest thumping is based on so many facts and assumptions. obviously they are lying about the jets that they have destroyed but NDTV posted few pictures which is a cause of concern. Question is where are the images of our strikes? why all the satellite images showing no damage to sensitive indian military installation? You can feel the silence from pakistani side.

Those 6 or 7 indian jets were targeted on may 7. there is complete silence from our side after these events on may 7. What colonel sofia said is not visible on satellites. I am not buying their theory. may be we have targeted their assets because they placed it away from airbases etc. it's possible. India did manage to intercept some of our missiles and even destroyed many drones. This isn't satisfying for me. It's not satisfying to see their military installations intact.

We have been targeted. Look at bholari and now look at recent image of jacobabad hangar(shared on ndtv). It's showing direct impacts. Our air defense collapsed. it's a cause of concern.

What if we allow india to attack us again? why there is no offensive policy? should we wait for brahmos to create hole in our hangars? Where are the holes in indian hangars?

It clearly means that too much restraint was shown that caused damage to the infrastructure of paf. May be because of trump. Who knows! all this doesn't make any sense. Without damage to indian airbases, we can't win or halt any war against india. Indian air defense systems worked better than Pakistan. All of this is unacceptable.

What if sindoor 2 starts? there are hints. They will again fire rampage, brahmos and scalp. How do we stop them? Our whole airforce is under threat of being bombed. Our lack of ground training and ground attack is visible. All our focus is on bvr engagement. You can do Bvr but you have to land the jet and this is where brahmos will start to rain. These indian missiles are deadly. Some of them were fired from 500 km range and still impacted their targets, means they can fire it again while staying out of our missile range.

Do we believe in preemptive strikes? do we have long range missiles like scalp? What if they intercept raad in next conflict? always think about future and stay ahead. I am not satisfied with our performance in may. i hope PAF will do better next time specially ground attack etc.

Their army chief threatened us and he talked about ground invasion. I hope it open eyes. You know United states might dictate you terms and conditions but at the end of the day, it's your country and you have to defend the crucial infrastructure. Don't listen to United States again. Do what is best for the country. United States may not be able to stop india pak next time. Our real friend is China so we should be making trips to china rather than United States. Our policy doesn't make any sense.

Pakistan had the upper hand until Mr ‘I want to crown myself a field Marshall” forced the Air Force to stand down while India fired missiles into Pakistan. He did so to paint himself as an international statesman while his country was being bombed left and right. By the time Pakistan started its counter operations on the last hours of the war, it was too little too late. Pakistan had the initiative but lost due to GHQ’s negotiations with the White House and other countries.

PAF won the war and Pakistan army generals lost the war. The story of Pakistan military history.
 
Pakistan had the upper hand until Mr ‘I want to crown myself a field Marshall” forced the Air Force to stand down while India fired missiles into Pakistan. He did so to paint himself as an international statesman while his country was being bombed left and right. By the time Pakistan started its counter operations on the last hours of the war, it was too little too late. Pakistan had the initiative but lost due to GHQ’s negotiations with the White House and other countries.

PAF won the war and Pakistan army generals lost the war. The story of Pakistan military history.
its too bad we all thought this guy would be better than bajwa but it does not seem like the case. It made no sense to make him a FM specially bcaz the win was by PAF. This guy stole all their thunder and limelight....this is why people love the PAF and PN, but have concerns/reservations on the army generals

at this point i am not even sure how things may turn out next time bcaz these guys always wait for the enemy to attack and they sit and watch
 
Pakistan had the upper hand until Mr ‘I want to crown myself a field Marshall” forced the Air Force to stand down while India fired missiles into Pakistan. He did so to paint himself as an international statesman while his country was being bombed left and right. By the time Pakistan started its counter operations on the last hours of the war, it was too little too late. Pakistan had the initiative but lost due to GHQ’s negotiations with the White House and other countries.

PAF won the war and Pakistan army generals lost the war. The story of Pakistan military history.
I don't care about history. Look at our hangars! it will open many eyes. Question is do we allow this type of attack again? India is waiting for the closure of northern mountain passes and karakoram road which will happen in winter and time is near. Everything is well planned from indian side. Clever, clever enemy.
 
I don't care about history. Look at our hangars! it will open many eyes. Question is do we allow this type of attack again? India is waiting for the closure of northern mountain passes and karakoram road which will happen in winter and time is near. Everything is well planned from indian side. Clever, clever enemy.

It wont happen - i truly believe that. Nothing has changed that would make India's attack on Pakistan work any better than the last time and this time, i am certain that Pakistan will forcefully attack New Delhi and Mumbai as well.

Now, you have the additional factor of Saudi Arabia. Is the Indian government willing to embarrass Saudi Arabia by attacking Pakistan?
 

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