Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

It wont happen - i truly believe that. Nothing has changed that would make India's attack on Pakistan work any better than the last time and this time, i am certain that Pakistan will forcefully attack New Delhi and Mumbai as well.

Now, you have the additional factor of Saudi Arabia. Is the Indian government willing to embarrass Saudi Arabia by attacking Pakistan?
Sir you are very senior member. I don't believe that saudia will do anything to stop india. May be some statements in pakistani favor etc. I believe that saudia pak pact is one sided. they need professionals, we need money etc. Why are we so hopeful that saudia or trump will save us next time? we have to fight this war on our own.

In order to reach new delhi, we have to introduce better drones and better missiles. Indian air defense is working well.

I believe it will happen again. India will not stop this time because of ego issues and to humiliate united states that is bragging about ending conflict in may.

All these threatening statements from india showing signs of another war, may be 10 day war, who knows!
 
your army was surprised by the intel we had and were getting live input of it....so that means that you underestimated our co operation with china and our capability to get things done...youre just constantly rage baiting...also watch the report by new york times on indian bases being attacked...they showed imageryy but the damage was very minimal....you guys cant even provide credible proof for the aircraft you magically shot down including an awacs and and elint aircraft(made the claim to relive the butt hurt pain recived via the fa20s in 2019)....when we say the the hangers were emptied before strikes you think its BS but when you say s400 moved places its true lmao...also you claimed that s400 intercepted the cm400 akg... howcome they struck the previous location then ?
They just believe their own BS and then push it as fact, is all.
 
Sir you are very senior member. I don't believe that saudia will do anything to stop india. May be some statements in pakistani favor etc. I believe that saudia pak pact is one sided. they need professionals, we need money etc. Why are we so hopeful that saudia or trump will save us next time? we have to fight this war on our own.

In order to reach new delhi, we have to introduce better drones and better missiles. Indian air defense is working well.

I believe it will happen again. India will not stop this time because of ego issues and to humiliate united states that is bragging about ending conflict in may.

All these threatening statements from india showing signs of another war, may be 10 day war, who knows!
Behind the BS, lies, half truths, threats, exercises, ‘operation is ongoing’, they know very well the humiliating bitch slapping they got & are still reeling from it. What you’re saying may well happen, but not for a long time and not for the foreseeable. Can never be complacent though against such a despicable enemy.
 
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Some members should watch this video are atleast parts of it especially in light of the recent volatile situation in AJK

His entire analysis has been pro PTI centric ever since he went insane. He never tall=ks about what is in interest of pakistan, but rather what will benefit the PTI. He can fuckofff
 
His entire analysis has been pro PTI centric ever since he went insane. He never tall=ks about what is in interest of pakistan, but rather what will benefit the PTI. He can fuckofff
maybe that's what you are attuned to that more than anything else!
 
I don't care about history. Look at our hangars! it will open many eyes. Question is do we allow this type of attack again? India is waiting for the closure of northern mountain passes and karakoram road which will happen in winter and time is near. Everything is well planned from indian side. Clever, clever enemy.

Whatever happens, Pakistan’s strategy of”maturity and restraint” will ensure the Hindu nationalists are emboldened and given free hand.

I have always said it’s suicidal for a smaller country to show restraint against a belligerent hostile enemy. The generals at GHQ want to indulge in politics and diplomacy and don’t want to be bothered with war and national security. It’s also why the border regions with Afghanistan is going to the dogs. Judicial and political manipulations and coffee with Mr. Trump ‘trump’ national security. Country can go to hell.
 
So this indian defenj analyst believes that the JF17s that were sent to destroy indian S-400 were actually shot down and his source is..... a pakistani comedian who made a vlog while stuck at Peshawar airport and said 4 Pakistani "jangli" jahaaz uray thay or sirf 2 wapis ay thay. 😂


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Has the Indian Air chief lost his mind. Everything was recorded and posted as it happened on Pakistani side. The only place where they seem to have hit any of our aircraft is the hangar in Bholari, and I remember news of Sqdn Ldr Usman and the rest, as well as the plane was already viral on Facebook so no attempt from us to hide it either.
 
His entire analysis has been pro PTI centric ever since he went insane. He never tall=ks about what is in interest of pakistan, but rather what will benefit the PTI. He can fuckofff
These all buzdil bagorey still miserably trying to cope. Far from being a failing system, it is progressing well despite having some shockers (like terrorism, Indian attack, floods, etc.).

Pak is successfully exterminating terrorists in Balochistan and KPK. Admittedly the number terrorist attacks has gone up but that is due to the fact that forces are killing large numbers of terrorists in their far flung hide outs (on mountains) and so they are running to the cities/towns and fighting for their survival. It's gonna take some time but all these terrorists will be completely eliminated.
The way Punjab has dealt so well with one of the worst floods of its history (with minimal loss of life and material) is indeed admirable. We saw some real effort on part of the Punjab government, Compare that with the fake relief dramas staged only for photoshoots by IK government in relatively minor floods and you'll see the difference.

Pak foreign policy is being seen at its best so far. Good strategic relations with all big powers (China, US, Russia) and extremely good relations with our traditional allies (China, Saudi, Türkiye, Azerbaijan, etc.) all done in last few years.

All indicators are showing a increasingly healthier economy, inflation is well below 5%, stock market repeatedly making and then breaking its own records, exports and remittance gradually increasing, to name a few.

Let these brainless idiots struggle with their cope. They need to continuously burn in their own hate, die everyday on any and every good news for the state of Pakistan, and keep tirelessly singing Modi/Doval's tunes. They deserve it all.
 
So this indian defenj analyst believes that the JF17s that were sent to destroy indian S-400 were actually shot down and his source is..... a pakistani comedian who made a vlog while stuck at Peshawar airport and said 4 Pakistani "jangli" jahaaz uray thay or sirf 2 wapis ay thay. 😂


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It's amusing to see how these delusional Indians keep making silly claims. I always enjoy their thought process and how they assume the world consists of only fools who would believe their obvious lies with closed eyes.
 
Has the Indian Air chief lost his mind. Everything was recorded and posted as it happened on Pakistani side. The only place where they seem to have hit any of our aircraft is the hangar in Bholari, and I remember news of Sqdn Ldr Usman and the rest, as well as the plane was already viral on Facebook so no attempt from us to hide it either.
No he didn't. He is simply following Modi's Hindutva policy of spready lies and falsehood. He is not acting as a professional soldier but rather as Modi's political stooge in uniform. It appears unable tot even realize that he has become a laughing ass of the world by making these obviously false claims after 6 months of the battle.
 
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There are many posters who have been claiming that Pakistan displayed restraint.
It is not a wrong statement, because had there been not restraint, ballistic missiles may have been flying across with involvement of army as well as the navy.
But, this statement is being made as if the restraint was displayed from a position of strength. That is where this observation is wrong.
Restraint was displayed by India too. The reasons are same as written above.
When the claims of so called restraint are made, both the defence forces were firing a certain types of weapons to show resolve and capability without making it too big to avoid escalation.
Pakistan was primarily firing barrages of Fatah, artillery and limited CM400 against high value targets. India was firing Brahmos, Scalp and few other precision long range weapons.
That is when a cessation of operations happened.

How effective were the strikes by Pakistan?
The answer is -pretty ineffective.
There are claims against S400 and a C2 centre. The damage is claimed on the basis of contradictory statements by defence chiefs.

A S400 transmitter is bound to be picked up by sensors from, across and the deployment philosophy is bound to be based on this fact. Whether, it moved away by the time strike came in or it was addressed by AD is a moot point.

Fatah was the primary weapon and apart from smoke rising from the IAF bases there is nothing else to show for its success. Whether they were addressed by IAF AD or they were inherently inaccurate can’t be the basis of their success. They failed to cause detectable damage to any Indian assets at any place. It’s a Pak failure and not display of restraint.

It was Pakistan’s job to test the Indian AD and punch holes in it by striking targets with proof and showing that Indian AD is as bad as theirs. If Indian AD wasn’t tested to it’s limits isn’t Indian fault.

So the claims of restraint by Pakistan aren’t from a position of strength but from a position where it was at the receiving end of pin point accurate Indian strikes.

Pakistan was in a position where its main weapon of choice was found severely lacking in impact. Pakistan failed to identify this and make any changes while India did exactly that after pounding they got on 07 May.

True sense of restraint was visible from Indian side. Side that was striking across entire Pakistan at will and accurately. It had the option of increasing the scale of same weapons and strike many more places or saturate few high value targets and cause much more damage. But it didn’t.

However, it decided to carry out symbolic strikes all across to drive home the point and displayed true sense of restraint.
 
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There are many posters who have been claiming that Pakistan displayed restraint.
It is not a wrong statement, because had there been not restraint, ballistic missiles may have been flying across with involvement of army as well as the navy.
But, this statement is being made as if the restraint was displayed from a position of strength. That is where this observation is wrong.
Restraint was displayed by India too. The reasons are same as written above.
When the claims of so called restraint are made, both the defence forces were firing a certain types of weapons to show resolve and capability without making it too big to avoid escalation.
Pakistan was primarily firing barrages of Fatah, artillery and limited CM400 against high value targets. India was firing Brahmos, Scalp and few other precision long range weapons.
That is when a cessation of operations happened.

How effective were the strikes by Pakistan?
The answer is -pretty ineffective.
There are claims against S400 and a C2 centre. The damage is claimed on the basis of contradictory statements by defence chiefs.

A S400 transmitter is bound to be picked up by sensors from, across and the deployment philosophy is bound to be based on this fact. Whether, it moved away by the time strike came in or it was addressed by AD is a moot point.

Fatah was the primary weapon and apart from smoke rising from the IAF bases there is nothing else to show for its success. Whether they were addressed by IAF AD or they were inherently inaccurate can’t be the basis of their success. They failed to cause detectable damage to any Indian assets at any place. It’s a Pak failure and not display of restraint.

It was Pakistan’s job to test the Indian AD and punch holes in it by striking targets with proof and showing that Indian AD is as bad as theirs. If Indian AD wasn’t tested to it’s limits isn’t Indian fault.

So the claims of restraint by Pakistan aren’t from a position of strength but from a position where it was at the receiving end of pin point accurate Indian strikes.

Pakistan was in a position where its main weapon of choice was found severely lacking in impact. Pakistan failed to identify this and make any changes while India did exactly that after pounding they got on 07 May.

True sense of restraint was visible from Indian side. Side that was striking across entire Pakistan at will and accurately. It had the option of increasing the scale of same weapons and strike many more places or saturate few high value targets and cause much more damage. But it didn’t.

However, it decided to carry out symbolic strikes all across to drive home the point and displayed true sense of restraint.
I am showing restrain.

answer post 40680 first, bec. I asked you first!

I could reply to your post, but, whats the point when you cannot understand basic principles

answer 40680
 
I am showing restrain.

answer post 40680 first, bec. I asked you first!

I could reply to your post, but, whats the point when you cannot understand basic principles

answer 40680
This is the correct approach with Indians.

Just talk in numbers, whether it is post references or scorelines. They are a bizarre and dysfunctional nation.
 
There are many posters who have been claiming that Pakistan displayed restraint.
It is not a wrong statement, because had there been not restraint, ballistic missiles may have been flying across with involvement of army as well as the navy.
But, this statement is being made as if the restraint was displayed from a position of strength. That is where this observation is wrong.
Restraint was displayed by India too. The reasons are same as written above.
When the claims of so called restraint are made, both the defence forces were firing a certain types of weapons to show resolve and capability without making it too big to avoid escalation.
Pakistan was primarily firing barrages of Fatah, artillery and limited CM400 against high value targets. India was firing Brahmos, Scalp and few other precision long range weapons.
That is when a cessation of operations happened.

How effective were the strikes by Pakistan?
The answer is -pretty ineffective.
There are claims against S400 and a C2 centre. The damage is claimed on the basis of contradictory statements by defence chiefs.

A S400 transmitter is bound to be picked up by sensors from, across and the deployment philosophy is bound to be based on this fact. Whether, it moved away by the time strike came in or it was addressed by AD is a moot point.

Fatah was the primary weapon and apart from smoke rising from the IAF bases there is nothing else to show for its success. Whether they were addressed by IAF AD or they were inherently inaccurate can’t be the basis of their success. They failed to cause detectable damage to any Indian assets at any place. It’s a Pak failure and not display of restraint.

It was Pakistan’s job to test the Indian AD and punch holes in it by striking targets with proof and showing that Indian AD is as bad as theirs. If Indian AD wasn’t tested to it’s limits isn’t Indian fault.

So the claims of restraint by Pakistan aren’t from a position of strength but from a position where it was at the receiving end of pin point accurate Indian strikes.

Pakistan was in a position where its main weapon of choice was found severely lacking in impact. Pakistan failed to identify this and make any changes while India did exactly that after pounding they got on 07 May.

True sense of restraint was visible from Indian side. Side that was striking across entire Pakistan at will and accurately. It had the option of increasing the scale of same weapons and strike many more places or saturate few high value targets and cause much more damage. But it didn’t.

However, it decided to carry out symbolic strikes all across to drive home the point and displayed true sense of restraint.
Great.

Now add the point where India invaded Lahore port to teach us a lesson.

Then, add another sentence bragging about how India showed restraint by not occupying Lahore port.
 

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