Israel Genocide in Gaza - 2023 to present - Part ll

RescueRanger said:
Bro you are going off on a tangent here. How about you stop lecturing the choir, all of us here are Muslims and support the people of Palestine.

Go back and check the past 28 pages. You are being silly now.
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What's silly about questioning/being suspicious of the current power structure across Arab and Muslim world ?

Shouldn't we be suspicious/concerned if this much has happened and we couldn't Muslims and Arabs to support Gaza at world stage when they did for Bosnia, Syria, etc ... ?

This is far, far worse than anything that ever happened in the Muslim world. And it's when your people being exterminated and your own families you're not going to behave rationally. Despite that what I said is rational.

Why do we need to tolerate this standard of leadership? Your leadership in Pakistan may be competent and can provide security for Pakistani people but in the Arab world people are left for the dogs and it's not okay.
 
HAIDER said:
Wallah, I never seen such a helpless condition in history. Where more 60 thousands died , children bodies scattered in the streets and killing the whole nation using starvation as weapon and dropping fire from the sky ....
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Unfortunately, It is much worse than that. When the war stops, we will see a much larger death toll uncovered.
 
Unknowntruth said:
Unfortunately, It is much worse than that. When the war stops, we will see a much larger death toll uncovered.
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It has been decided.

1. Get the hostages.
2. Remove Hamas from power and eliminate them.
3. Move as many Palestinians out of their land into Arab nations. Steal all Palestinian land.
4. Absorb and assimilate the few Palestinians left.
5. Go after Iran.

The Zionists in Israel want to transform Palestinians into the Native Americans. The same script is in motion. Steal their land and destroy as many Palestinians as possible. Write and dictate history as victors.

I will repeat. The Abraham Accords signatories are the main reason for emboldening Israel and Netanyahu. The Abraham Accords signatories are part of the genocide.
 
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Master Chief said:
So Hamas has made no mistakes whatsoever?
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Everybody makes mistakes, that's out of question. What you're asking is Hamas ever had bad policies. Which is a yes it did. That's one thing I like about them as a Palestinian they've had bad policies and reversed them, and had been grilled for bad policies. Lots of which are domestic related, not necessarily related to struggle with Israel.
Master Chief said:
Leave aside any moral argument and let us not be clouded by the obvious - that the Tel Aviv regime is, by definition, a genocidal and barbaric one.

From a purely sterile and military-geopolitical perspective, can you say that Hamas has not made enough errors to be the architect of its own destruction? Once that is established, is it not then straightforward to envisage the deep Mossad networks as being the ones who pull the necessary strings to "encourage" said errors?
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When you take on a strategic power play, if Arabs and allies stood behind them, it becomes a victory and we write history. It's not a conspiracy.

How else were victories achieved ? And history has been written? You have to take initiative and take risks.

You say Hamas brought upon its own destruction for committing a military OP that targeted the IDF southern division. An operation centered around targeting a military division laying siege on the Gaza Strip is legal. It doesn't mark destruction of an entire people. That's a big overreach by evil people that seek to exterminate and always had such ambitions.

They'll do it to Palestinians and others because of inherent narcassism, God complex, no checks and balances in world, and no balance of power in region. That is not Hamas's fault that these people are inherently narcassistic and genocidal.

It's the Jewish teachings and the Jewish-American community which granted Israel so much immunity that are responsible.
Master Chief said:
Of course the rank and file of the resistance are brave and heroic and will no doubt be remembered for heroic acts of martyrdom protecting or seeking revenge for their brutalised civilians - no doubting that - but as a wise man once said, winning wars is not about dying for one's country, but getting the other guy to die for his.

Hamas needed to be a lot smarter than they were. It has recently been claimed - and I believe it - that their own allies in Iran and Hezb did not even know of the plan to launch the October 2023 assault.
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Hezb and Iran are compromised. This was evident by pager operations, ability to reach Hezbollah commanders, and drone attacks/local on ground attacks in Iran by terrorist Mossad cells all over Iran targeting air defenses, launchers, and more.

Hamas made them know through another way. Which is warning repeatedly that Jerusalem situation which won't be tolerated for longer and a big conflict will arise over it.

But keep in mind Hamas sought for this to be a collective Muslim effort. And told all Muslim nations and people to participate in the very beginning. Not just Iran or Hezbollah.
Master Chief said:
You tell me - are they simply this stupid, or are some of their leadership actually in cahoots with Tel Aviv?
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No they're not stupid nor led by Tel Aviv. Gaza situation was intolerable, and so was situation in Palestine overall. But so is general situation in region with signing Abraham Accords which promotes a unity of religion belief which is blasphemous. Hamas leaders also care about Islam not just Gaza and Palestine.

Hamas thought good of Muslims, clearly, based off on how it was betting on them to participate. They must of expected a lot more. But Muslims thought because they succeeded in a quick operation in one day , that they could then take on fight on their own and we should just watch Hamas fight on its own instead of committing to our responsibility as well ..
 
This could be accepted if they drop ethnic cleansing campaign

And any culture/religion 'deradicalization' concept

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They clearly aren't interested in ending the inhumane slaughter of civilian population.

I think it would be a mistake to release captives now. After what Netanyahu has said. Unless Trump publicly rebuffs it.

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The Hebrew Hadashot

A very large attack is about to take place simultaneously in four countries,

Iran
Iraq
Lebanon
Yemen

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Falcon29 said:
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The Hebrew Hadashot

A very large attack is about to take place simultaneously in four countries,

Iran
Iraq
Lebanon
Yemen

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Urgent | Turkish Foreign Minister: Netanyahu can obstruct the plan to end the war in Gaza at any time

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Falcon29 said:
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The Hebrew Hadashot

A very large attack is about to take place simultaneously in four countries,

Iran
Iraq
Lebanon
Yemen

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nonsense
 
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