Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Sarhang]

That's why I have repeatedly said that Iran's need for nuclear weapons first and foremost is to play the madman policy by targeting energy infrastructure in our neighboring countries. At some point, we will be forced to do that and I'm 100% sure that the IR can never go in that direction without ultimate form of deterrence, i.e. nuclear deterrence.

Its strange that such a post is coming from you.

Im honestly surprised you guys havent learned anything from the recent war or from IR in general.

Do you realize what will happen if IR starts lobbing missiles at Bahrain, the UAE, and other Persian Gulf states?

Do you want them to join the US/Israel coalition? Because thats exactly what will happen.

Such an idiotic move would completely isolate Iran from the entire Arab world except maybe the Houthis.

The reengagement with regional states first started under Raisi and continued by Pezeshkian is perhaps the only sane decision the IR has ever made in regional politics.

If you are talking about some symbolic low impact strikes coordinated with those states... fine.. maybe thats manageable. But if you are seriously talking about attacking their territory causing casualties and damage.... do you understand how that will end?


Can we even defend our three islands against a possible invasion? With what? With ''crazy madman'' ballistic missile terror strikes?

 

[ShapurII]

Its strange that such a post is coming from you.

Im honestly surprised you guys havent learned anything from the recent war or from IR in general.

Do you realize what will happen if IR starts lobbing missiles at Bahrain, the UAE, and other Persian Gulf states?

Do you want them to join the US/Israel coalition? Because thats exactly what will happen.

Such an idiotic move would completely isolate Iran from the entire Arab world except maybe the Houthis.

The reengagement with regional states first started under Raisi and continued by Pezeshkian is perhaps the only sane decision the IR has ever made in regional politics.

If you are talking about some symbolic low impact strikes coordinated with those states... fine.. maybe thats manageable. But if you are seriously talking about attacking their territory causing casualties and damage.... do you understand how that will end?


Can we even defend our three islands against a possible invasion? With what? With ''crazy madman'' ballistic missile terror strikes?

Of course we can defend ourselves in such a scenario. We have strategic depth compared to the Emirates if we are armed with nuclear weapons.

Do you think Israel or the US will sacrifice themselves to save Arabs? I highly doubt that. I would even bet my life on it that Israel and the US would do absolutely nothing if Iran, armed with nuclear weapons, would start to beat the crap out of the UAE.

 

[Sarhang]

Of course we can defend ourselves in such a scenario. We have strategic depth compared to the Emirates if we are armed with nuclear weapons.

Do you think Israel or the US will sacrifice themselves to save Arabs? I highly doubt that. I would even bet my life on it that Israel and the US would do absolutely nothing if Iran, armed with nuclear weapons, would start to beat the crap out of the UAE.

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Please explain how we are supposed to defend ourselves in the event of a combined PGCC coalition assault.


How are we going to defend the three islands given their extreme vulnerability to air attacks?


Lets be honest..... in a full-scale war with the UAE there iss a 99% chance they will occupy them.


I am sorry but sometimes it feels like we hit a ''factory reset'' to blind patriotism and stop thinking logically.


Lets keep both feet on the ground and accept reality: we dont have nukes, we are not going to build nukes and we wont have nukes.


We dont have a capable air force or a reliable air defense system.


All we really have are missile strike forces and they have proven to be underwhelming at best.


You want to pursue a reckless 'madman style'' foreign policy with a failed ballistic missile program and no air power?


Thats just sad.


I honestly dont know how many more decades and disasters it will take before we realize that nothing will change as long as this broken establishment stays in power.


There is nothing wrong with our strategic depth, our country or our resources... we are completely fine in the long run but only if we are led by the right patriotic people those whose main concern is the well being of the nation... not their own pockets.

 

[ShapurII]

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Please explain how we are supposed to defend ourselves in the event of a combined PGCC coalition assault.


How are we going to defend the three islands given their extreme vulnerability to air attacks?


Lets be honest..... in a full-scale war with the UAE there iss a 99% chance they will occupy them.


I am sorry but sometimes it feels like we hit a ''factory reset'' to blind patriotism and stop thinking logically.


Lets keep both feet on the ground and accept reality: we dont have nukes, we are not going to build nukes and we wont have nukes.


We dont have a capable air force or a reliable air defense system.


All we really have are missile strike forces and they have proven to be underwhelming at best.


You want to pursue a reckless 'madman style'' foreign policy with a failed ballistic missile program and no air power?


Thats just sad.


I honestly dont know how many more decades and disasters it will take before we realize that nothing will change as long as this broken establishment stays in power.


There is nothing wrong with our strategic depth, our country or our resources... we are completely fine in the long run but only if we are led by the right patriotic people those whose main concern is the well being of the nation... not their own pockets.

I already explained it. Madman policy.
We will effectively use our missiles against their most critical infrastructure because we will have nuclear deterrence.

All of the Persian Gulf sheikhdoms will collapse as soon as their vital infrastructure is hit. The only exception is Saudi Arabia, but the rest will collapse in a matter of days.

Saddam invaded Kuwait in almost 24 hours. Never forget that.

 

[Arash]

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Why didn’t they do this in 2009? Why didn’t they do this after Mahsa riots? This is what steady implosion looks like a la Soviet Union. Only when they are losing their grip do they relent to try to retain order. Assad did similar failed tactics.

It’s hard to know who is even ‘leading’ the country these days.

Honestly the fact that Iran removes stupid religious laws isn't bad, actually, the religious faction in Iran lost much influence while the Pasdaran and military are enjoying renewed popularity

 

[Arash]

Al Mayadeen quoted its (Iranian?) sources as saying “the US is trying to make a coalition of Arab states, “to stop Iranian vessels, prevent Iran oil exports or delivery of sensitive technologies”.

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IRI needs to very clear that any attempt by neighbouring states to impede free movement of Iranian vessels will be regarded as an act of war and will trigger an immediate and crushing military response targeting their ports in retaliation

Europe and the u.s. are trying to enforce their sanctions through enlistment of gulf Arab prostitutes.

 

[Shafagh]

Honestly the fact that Iran removes stupid religious laws isn't bad, actually, the religious faction in Iran lost much influence while the Pasdaran and military are enjoying renewed popularity

Of course. But there are still stubborn dumbasses pushing back on this. Even in this forum we still have these people.

 

[Arash]

Of course. But there are still stubborn dumbasses pushing back on this. Even in this forum we still have these people.

Oh come on, people are allowed to have their thoughts, yet to me such thing is just a side effect of a real background change :
- active war with Iran possibly replaced with sanctions, these are delegated to local lackeys (turkey, gulf states, etc...)
- religious AND reformists losing influence in Iran
- pasdaran retaking political edge (with people such as Larijani, Renaissance, etc...)
- our military spending tripling, if not more with focus on new equipments (ICBMs, jets, etc....)

 

[FUB]

No matter how much garbage the likes of fake accounts, such as Mohsen Reyhani, yammer, it does not change anything on the ground.
1-Iran is a nuclear weapons state.
2-The NPT is dead. There is no future cooperation between Iran and the IAEA. What you see is all optics.
3-Iran will continue to enrich.
4-You can't win a war from the air. The U.S. is in no position to invade Iran.
The biggest enemy is within. You do not need to be an economist to see the fraud. How can a country with a trade surplus have hyperinflation and devaluation of its currency? Who sets the exchange rate? It is called financial fuckery.

The U.S, with a $2 trillion deficit, is running an annual inflation rate of 5%.
No matter how much Israel fanboys cheer, the facts do not change.

On a somewhat positive note, it seems that the regime has decided not to alienate Iranians. Hopefully, we will see some accountability and see the aghazadeha behind bars soon. I know it is a reach, but history repeats itself.

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Sorry, Israel fanboys. Israel, that you worship, just lost one of the excuses for the next unnecessary war. By the way, F.U. from here to that shit hole Tel Aviv where you reside.

 

[kastor ville]

Now people can see why I said that the Islamic Republic was forced by China to normalize their ties with Saudi Arabia.
Arabs are our enemies. The whole idea of normalization of ties with Saudi Arabia was the Islamic Republic folding to Chinese pressure as usual.

We can never be friends with our neighboring Arab states.

UAE and Saudi Arabia, but I have to say SA is calibrated compared to UAE....UAE is basically an outpost for Israel and the US. We have to teach UAE a lesson, sooner or later....they're getting too big for their britches.

 

[kastor ville]

How is this a move in the right direction ?
You realise the enemies of GOD have been spending immense amounts of resources & focus to subvert the Iranian nation. That “Gharb Parast” segment of Iranian society is the most dangerous threat to Iranian nation.

This is an absolutely slippery slope & they wouldn’t stop here. There were a few laws passed in Pakistan a decade ago under similar sort of pressure & the effects of those on Pakistani society have been fatal to the least.

Let’s see if you’d look back in a decades time & reflect on it in a positive manner.

 

[kastor ville]

That's why I have repeatedly said that Iran's need for nuclear weapons first and foremost is to play the madman policy by targeting energy infrastructure in our neighboring countries. At some point, we will be forced to do that and I'm 100% sure that the IR can never go in that direction without ultimate form of deterrence, i.e. nuclear deterrence.

Let's focus on the reality.....the reality is on multiple occasions we've heard the Supreme Leader and then the President, along with the foreign minister say Iran will not develop a nuclear weapon. So, we can say all we want....but as long as the old man is the leader, it won't happen. It's probably the reason he's still alive.....the West wants his backwards edict in force. Perhaps we can rehash this subject after he's gone, but for now it's a moot point.

 

[ShapurII]

Let's focus on the reality.....the reality is on multiple occasions we've heard the Supreme Leader and then the President, along with the foreign minister say Iran will not develop a nuclear weapon. So, we can say all we want....but as long as the old man is the leader, it won't happen. It's probably the reason he's still alive.....the West wants his backwards edict in force. Perhaps we can rehash this subject after he's gone, but for now it's a moot point.

I know, but we don't have that much time left.

Some people here do not understand how progress and economics work.
If your regional adversaries are getting even 5% ahead of you each year, in 20 years, there will be an ocean of difference between us and them. And AI will only make this rate worse against us.

Iran is falling behind, our enemies are encircling us, approaching our red lines and even crossing them at will. Meanwhile, the society can no longer tolerate economic pressure. A highly-educated young guy with years of experience is barely paid $1000 in Iran. Minimum wage is now $130. Our economy is not sustainable. Too much liquidity is generated every year and it is not absorbed by the sectors that can help our economy grow or produce goods and services. We will face an implosion very soon.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Its strange that such a post is coming from you.

Im honestly surprised you guys havent learned anything from the recent war or from IR in general.

Do you realize what will happen if IR starts lobbing missiles at Bahrain, the UAE, and other Persian Gulf states?

the alternative is to accept these little fake states illegally boarding and inspecting and stopping our commercial vessels, which is unacceptable

UAE does not have the importance to the USA of Qatar

IRGC-ASF short range missiles are very accurate and UAE does not have BM defence shield of Israel, their air bases could actually be materially damaged with precision (they are even closer than Al Asad base in Iraq)

 

[Persian Gulf]

No matter how much garbage the likes of fake accounts, such as Mohsen Reyhani, yammer, it does not change anything on the ground.
1-Iran is a nuclear weapons state.

no, it isn't