Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

[Reichsmarschall]

Its pashtoon fc troops who are giving Afghanistan a bloody nose.

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[kimjongun]

I have no doubt about the first part of your statement. But what is the value of nuclear angle in this?

The differential in power is humongous and Afghans wouldn’t be able to do much in a conventional conflict. The elements of PAF with Armour and Artillery can pummel other side in a conventional conflict. Afghans wouldn’t be able to stop an advance into their territory.

Afghans never had that edge over anyone - USSR, USA, British etc. Still, none of them were able to hold onto that territory without taking significant losses. Losses that never seemed to stop. It is like a wound that just refuses to heal.

Pakistan may be able to drive their tanks all the way to Kabul but then there would be a question - WHAT THEN?

Contrary to tall claims and chest thumping in this regard, I would look at history and be a little cautious.

All conflicts in afghansitan ended because there wasnt everything to control over like the purpose of controlling afghan territory isnt feasible after all the losses you would have to face...like what will you do after defeating the talibs

 

[Saifullah]

This attack has been orchestrated by India.

Then Pakistan should do this:

Pakistan should mobilize civilians and form civilian militias. Reactivate pro pak Kashmiri militant groups like LeT. While Pakistan is fighting Afghanistan, civilian militia should construct defences against potential Indian invasion. Tribal militias in KPK who are pro pak should be used as supplementary manpower to capture Wakhan and strategic areas along Afghan border. Pakistan should keep its focus limited to Wakhan and strategic areas along the border in Afghanistan. It should avoid trying to capture any large civilian settlements rather capture peaks or areas that offer the ability to indirectly control these areas. Tribal militias should also be given tasks of defending their areas from TTP. Declare state of emergency and put everything on high alert. Pakistani molvis should be brought on live TV reiterating rebellion against the state is haram and TTP is khawarij. This should be translated in Pashto and Balochi and shown in all parts of the country. Massive amounts of cheap FPV drones should be purchased from China on an urgent basis and converted to suicide drones for use in Afghanistan. The aim of Pakistan in Afghanistan should be 1) capturing land enough to prevent any Afghan buildup or infiltration and 2) strikes that eventually cause Afghan people to rise up and push for regime change in Afghanistan.

Bangladesh should be Pakistan’s other priority right now. Send an ssg team there. Create JuD and LeT type groups based in Bangladesh with the aim of making Bangladesh India’s Afghanistan. It’s very important for Pakistan to light up India’s east right now. All insurgencies in seven sister states should be covertly supported. If Pakistan Afghanistan war goes on for longer than expected Pakistan should work to manufacture a Bangladesh India war. China should be requested to pressure India from the north if they’re willing.

There is no other option. Afghans could even retreat from areas on purpose making Pakistan fall into the trap of over extending itself in Afghanistan before Indians try a ground invasion.

 

[ThrustVector998]

It is a heavy blast for a drone. Which weapon in our possession (drone operated) can cause this much damage ?

I believe it to be Akinci. Because only that drone can carry such heavy bombs.

It was a JDAM

 

[Toxic]

A good example of factual and accurate reporting.

All the losses were on Afghan side while the Pakistan had only gains.

There is no doubt about the differential in military power and bigger losses on Afghan side but this kind of reporting is as good as of no value.

Yeah no shit that's how it works when one side has a vast disproportionate advantage advantage in conventional firepower.

 

[Signalian]

Then Pakistan should do this:


There is no other option. Afghans could even retreat from areas on purpose making Pakistan fall into the trap of over extending itself in Afghanistan before Indians try a ground invasion.

Non conventional weapons and tactics can be used in conventional warfare so arming civilians and sending them as militias is not feasible.

 

[maxpane]

A projectile can be seen at 4 seconds mark. Seems like a jdam / rek

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woooow looks like ammo depot

 

[Signalian]

It was a JDAM

Hush.
Shhhhhhh...who told you that ?

 

[Toxic]

Hush.
Shhhhhhh...who told you that ?

Large explosion and the the projectile that hit it seemed like a air launched munition.

 

[Mutakalim]

Diplomatic talks between government of Pakistan and Taliban broke down in Moscow. Taliban FM headed to India for support while PA decided to teach them a lesson that Pakistan will not accept TTP hideouts and safe heavens, and Indian influence in Afghanistan.

However, the question remains. Is this a best time to escalate things with Afghanistan keeping in mind the political and internal security situation in KP and the looming war in east?

 

[Signalian]

Large explosion and the the projectile that hit it seemed like a air launched munition.

Ok yes, getting warmer.

 

[Desprado123]

Never seen Pashtun Journalist or Pashtun againat Afghan but today dam they are demanding to freeze trade, use of Fatah and collapse of Taliban Government.

 

[Saifullah]

What if Israelis are already there and operating inside Baluchistan also through Afghanistan ?

Onboard Turks and Arabs to arm Syria and sale Fatah’s to Egypt.
There was already thousands of Pakistanis in Syria and Lebanon fighting for Iran maybe even tens of thousands. Pakistan should replicate this and set up militias covertly in Syria and Lebanon.
Israelis only understand the language of force not talks or pacifism. When Syria starts responding to every air strike with rockets/missiles and starts pushing the israeli Druze proxy out, they’ll have to focus all their efforts there.

 

[Vapnope]

I have no doubt about the first part of your statement. But what is the value of nuclear angle in this?

The differential in power is humongous and Afghans wouldn’t be able to do much in a conventional conflict. The elements of PAF with Armour and Artillery can pummel other side in a conventional conflict. Afghans wouldn’t be able to stop an advance into their territory.

Afghans never had that edge over anyone - USSR, USA, British etc. Still, none of them were able to hold onto that territory without taking significant losses. Losses that never seemed to stop. It is like a wound that just refuses to heal.

Pakistan may be able to drive their tanks all the way to Kabul but then there would be a question - WHAT THEN?

Contrary to tall claims and chest thumping in this regard, I would look at history and be a little cautious.

You really should look at history before you compare apple and oranges.

Let me help you here a little,
In soviet invasion and American invasion, Afghans ran to Pakistan. So if Pakistan invades, where they will go? Iran? India? Tajikstan?


Think again.

 

[ARMalik]

Sorry to say but Afghans are hell hole of this world and this is our and US duty to close this one for humanity since we both started it..

For the betterment of mankind KILL THEM ALL for the sake of humanity.

Your points have a lot of weight. I look at this from this point of view. Just imagine if India, A-Stan, Iran and Israel decide to targer Pakistan together and simultenously.

Now it is just NOT possible for Pakistan to handle all these MULTIPLE FRONTS USING CONVENTIONAL MEANS - IT IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE. The only way for Pakistan to survive would be to nuke A-stan, Iran so that these 4-fronts only become two fronts. Now Israel can only use Airforce - Pakistan can easily counter it. Pakistan can then use all of its conventional and non-convention means to take care of India !!

IN A SCENARIO AS ABOVE - USE OF NUKES BECOME IMPORTANT FOR THE SURVIVAL OF PAKISTAN. People do not realize that In fact Pakistan is PRESENTLY FACING ALMOST THIS EXACT SCENARIO minus Iran who have learnt the hard way that Indians are NOT their friends!!